Magruder HS Shooting

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.



Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.


+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).


MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.


There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.


Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.


Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.


Because it's not true. I am certain if the county did a validated survey of a representative sample of the kids in MCPS, you would find WIDE support for SROs. Just because a few loud advocate kids were plastered all over the place doesn't mean they speak for the majority of kids. Not at all. Look at Prince George's County. They did a real survey. 82% of the students, parents, teachers, and staff thought having SROs was important or very important to having a safe learning environment.

82%. And that is exactly why Montgomery County didn't do a valid survey. They don't want you to know the truth.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58#:~:text=This%20year%2C%20PGCPS%20CEO%20Dr,safe%20teaching%20and%20learning%20environment.


Exactly this. There should have been some sort of survey or vote. Ridiculous.
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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.



Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.


+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).


MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.


There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.


Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.


Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.


Because it's not true. I am certain if the county did a validated survey of a representative sample of the kids in MCPS, you would find WIDE support for SROs. Just because a few loud advocate kids were plastered all over the place doesn't mean they speak for the majority of kids. Not at all. Look at Prince George's County. They did a real survey. 82% of the students, parents, teachers, and staff thought having SROs was important or very important to having a safe learning environment.

82%. And that is exactly why Montgomery County didn't do a valid survey. They don't want you to know the truth.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58#:~:text=This%20year%2C%20PGCPS%20CEO%20Dr,safe%20teaching%20and%20learning%20environment.


Exactly this. There should have been some sort of survey or vote. Ridiculous.


Alexandria temporarily reinstated their SROs
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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.



Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.


+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).


MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.


There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.


Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.


Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.


Because it's not true. I am certain if the county did a validated survey of a representative sample of the kids in MCPS, you would find WIDE support for SROs. Just because a few loud advocate kids were plastered all over the place doesn't mean they speak for the majority of kids. Not at all. Look at Prince George's County. They did a real survey. 82% of the students, parents, teachers, and staff thought having SROs was important or very important to having a safe learning environment.

82%. And that is exactly why Montgomery County didn't do a valid survey. They don't want you to know the truth.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58#:~:text=This%20year%2C%20PGCPS%20CEO%20Dr,safe%20teaching%20and%20learning%20environment.


Exactly this. There should have been some sort of survey or vote. Ridiculous.


Alexandria temporarily reinstated their SROs

MCPS should definitely do the same. Violent incidents at schools are going to increase due to the mental health crisis from VL all last year.

My goodnes... PG county has more URM than MoCo, yet they even wanted SROs in school.
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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.



Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.


+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).


MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.


There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.


Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.


Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.


Because it's not true. I am certain if the county did a validated survey of a representative sample of the kids in MCPS, you would find WIDE support for SROs. Just because a few loud advocate kids were plastered all over the place doesn't mean they speak for the majority of kids. Not at all. Look at Prince George's County. They did a real survey. 82% of the students, parents, teachers, and staff thought having SROs was important or very important to having a safe learning environment.

82%. And that is exactly why Montgomery County didn't do a valid survey. They don't want you to know the truth.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58#:~:text=This%20year%2C%20PGCPS%20CEO%20Dr,safe%20teaching%20and%20learning%20environment.


Exactly this. There should have been some sort of survey or vote. Ridiculous.


Alexandria temporarily reinstated their SROs

MCPS should definitely do the same. Violent incidents at schools are going to increase due to the mental health crisis from VL all last year.

My goodnes... PG county has more URM than MoCo, yet they even wanted SROs in school.


Agreed
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I hate when we criticize women for their clothes but here it was warranted. The child was in surgery but could have died or might still die though hopefully not. This was a sober scary worst nightmare scenario with kids locked in classrooms still. Dark coat. Don’t make it look like you did your hair first. There should not have been time.


The more important question is why did she stay home until time for the presser? Shouldn't she have at least headed to her office? This was a crisis event--I would have expected her to go to the school.
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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.



Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.


+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).


MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.


There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.


Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.


Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.


Maybe if you taught your kid to view interacting with SRO's as a positive opportunity, we would all be better off.
instead you keep playing the paranoid victim in a community that is majority minority. Good luch with that
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Are the shooter's parents being charged?
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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.



Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.


+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).


MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.


There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.


Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.


Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.


Because it's not true. I am certain if the county did a validated survey of a representative sample of the kids in MCPS, you would find WIDE support for SROs. Just because a few loud advocate kids were plastered all over the place doesn't mean they speak for the majority of kids. Not at all. Look at Prince George's County. They did a real survey. 82% of the students, parents, teachers, and staff thought having SROs was important or very important to having a safe learning environment.

82%. And that is exactly why Montgomery County didn't do a valid survey. They don't want you to know the truth.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58#:~:text=This%20year%2C%20PGCPS%20CEO%20Dr,safe%20teaching%20and%20learning%20environment.


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I hate when we criticize women for their clothes but here it was warranted. The child was in surgery but could have died or might still die though hopefully not. This was a sober scary worst nightmare scenario with kids locked in classrooms still. Dark coat. Don’t make it look like you did your hair first. There should not have been time.


The more important question is why did she stay home until time for the presser? Shouldn't she have at least headed to her office? This was a crisis event--I would have expected her to go to the school.


She wasn't at home.
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Anonymous wrote:Shout out to the School Nurse. Read Ehrlich’s tweet sounds like she was great at her job as school first responder.


Agreed. I'm not a fan of Elrich, but his response was what I'd expect from a leader. McKnight's was not -- she didn't even acknowledge the nurse.


So you are saying you approve of how the white man handled this but you don’t like how the black man and woman handled it.


I think you’ve summed it up. The white guy got it right and the black man and woman made things worse. Sometimes black people are in the wrong jobs (just like white people). Do they get a free pass because they are black?

Elrich has had enough of McKnight and her constant lying. Have you read about how she blamed Health and Human Services for not letting schools have virtual options. In reality, they said we should have virtual options and schools with high positive Covid rates were not as safe as she claimed. She misrepresented what she was told. It’s called lying.

I’m married to a wonderful black man who is flawed like I am. I hope I’m not supposed to stay quiet just because he’s black?
Racism isn’t going to stop because black people get a pass for stupid decisions.
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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.



Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.


+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).


MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.


There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.


Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.


Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.


Because it's not true. I am certain if the county did a validated survey of a representative sample of the kids in MCPS, you would find WIDE support for SROs. Just because a few loud advocate kids were plastered all over the place doesn't mean they speak for the majority of kids. Not at all. Look at Prince George's County. They did a real survey. 82% of the students, parents, teachers, and staff thought having SROs was important or very important to having a safe learning environment.

82%. And that is exactly why Montgomery County didn't do a valid survey. They don't want you to know the truth.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58#:~:text=This%20year%2C%20PGCPS%20CEO%20Dr,safe%20teaching%20and%20learning%20environment.


Exactly this. There should have been some sort of survey or vote. Ridiculous.


Alexandria temporarily reinstated their SROs

MCPS should definitely do the same. Violent incidents at schools are going to increase due to the mental health crisis from VL all last year.

My goodnes... PG county has more URM than MoCo, yet they even wanted SROs in school.


School being virtual has nothing to do with school violence. Stop using mental health and virtual as excuses. These incidents happened long before and will happen long after. There are few consequences for students and parents when they misbehave. Many parents don't care.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure this is a very naive question but why didn’t anyone hear the gunshot? The victim was found in the bathroom not that someone heard the gunshot?

I was wondering the same. The only thing I could think of was that it happened during transition time when it's fairly loud in the hallway. But, IDK. It's a good question.


Schools have very solid walls and doors. A gun shot would sound a lot like slamming a door in your house outside and far from the bathroom. Double so if you are in classroom with thick walls. I didn't hear it all in the building. None of my students did.
-Magruder teacher.


A mom posted on a local FB page that her son was in the bathroom and witnessed the shooting. Any validity to that? If there was a witness, why was it thought to be a stabbing at first?
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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.



Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.


+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).


MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.


There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.


Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.


Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.


Maybe if you taught your kid to view interacting with SRO's as a positive opportunity, we would all be better off.
instead you keep playing the paranoid victim in a community that is majority minority. Good luch with that


I am not going to be teaching my kid to accept the continual presence of armed representatives of the state as normal. Thanks anyway.
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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.



Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.


+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).


MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.


There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.


Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.


Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.


Maybe if you taught your kid to view interacting with SRO's as a positive opportunity, we would all be better off.
instead you keep playing the paranoid victim in a community that is majority minority. Good luch with that


I am not going to be teaching my kid to accept the continual presence of armed representatives of the state as normal. Thanks anyway.


But it is normal. We have police everywhere. You want to make no-go zones like France. Well who suffers the most then? Marginalized communities. Wealthy people can create their own public safety.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure this is a very naive question but why didn’t anyone hear the gunshot? The victim was found in the bathroom not that someone heard the gunshot?

I was wondering the same. The only thing I could think of was that it happened during transition time when it's fairly loud in the hallway. But, IDK. It's a good question.


Schools have very solid walls and doors. A gun shot would sound a lot like slamming a door in your house outside and far from the bathroom. Double so if you are in classroom with thick walls. I didn't hear it all in the building. None of my students did.
-Magruder teacher.


A mom posted on a local FB page that her son was in the bathroom and witnessed the shooting. Any validity to that? If there was a witness, why was it thought to be a stabbing at first?


She shouldn’t do that. It’s possible she can put her son in danger by outing him as a witness.
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