Help me understand Republican women in their 30s and 40s

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Anonymous wrote:I definitely understood Bush-era Republicans but I just cannot wrap my mind around how any remotely educated woman today could consider herself a part of the Republican party. Can someone please explain it to me? What is appealing about the Republican party?


Wanting to keep more of your paycheck and not having so much of your paycheck taxed away.

Wanting low inflation and a strong economy.

Pro women sports in which women can compete against women.

Strong schools. Challenging classes in the schools. Strong schools and challenging classes for all students in all neighborhoods.

Safe schools. Safe schools for teachers and safe schools for students.


Republicans have given massive tax breaks to the richest while shifting more tax burden to the middle class.

By the numbers, for the last 80+ years, Republicans have more often than not significantly underperformed Democrats on most economic metrics.

Sports eligibility should be handled by the relevant orgs, same as doping. Weird that the people who oppose government involvement choose this one area for more involvement.

What have Republicans done to help schools? They attack, demonize and demoralize teachers, they defund public schools by shifting funding to privately owned, for-profit charters, many of which aren't any better than the private schools and which often don't even meet public schools standards, or if they are actually a high performing charter, most low income students don't have access to it

Safe schools? Not when we let lunatics with mental health issues, histories of domestic violence and other things buy guns and shoot kids in their schools. And arming teachers? You want to arm the teachers that you falsely accuse of being incompetent communists who want to push gay marriage and anti-white racism on our kids?

Make it make sense! The GOP is anything but.
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.


On the contrary, as a white republican woman, no one is trying to terrify me about black men. Just this morning, I listened to an interview of a black man who is on the short list for Trump's VP-- one of two black men on the list. In general, black people tend to have value systems closer to white conservatives than white conservatives have to white progressives. Meaning, I find more in common with the average black man than with a white progressive women.

Fair point on the open border and massive expansion of the drag queen industrial complex. The possibilities are terrifying.


Are you conveniently forgetting all the emotional appeals to imaginary grievances about CRT, Affirmative Action, banning books written by Black authors or offering Black perspectives, and all the paranoid racial stereotypes about crime, welfare, drugs, etc.?

It is coming again soon. Every election year the Republicans’ closing argument to suburban women is that they will protect your children and your neighborhoods and your schools by keeping Blacks and Hispanics away. Republicans are the “put them back in their place” party. As a Republican woman, that is what you vote for.


No one is saying they will keep blacks and Hispanics away. You have no idea what is being said in right wing media. Trump is massively gaining ground with Hispanic voters and gaining a respectable amount of black voters as well. You need to just stop bc you come across as really racist. Black and Hispanic people aren't the problem.


Democrats are massively gaining ground with women in their 20s, 30s and 40s.


Questionable whether they are doing so in critical swing states.
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.


Just continue the racism and sexism. What a winner of a strategy. It’s so discouraging to see Democrats embrace the worst of Republican strategies.


Listen to Republicans. It is all bigotry all the time. It’s all about protecting “us” (clannish white Christians) by kicking “them” (any and all who are not in the delusional cult). Trump, Speaker Johnson, Republican Governors, it’s all they do and say. Paranoid bigotry is their only message.


And yet the 4 African American male Republicans in Congress and the 1 African American male Republican in the Senate all were voted into office in districts with majority white people. I'm tired of being called a bigot.


Then you should stop supporting bigots.


People who are trying to be on your side are totally put off by this attitude. The black and white thinking is ooc!
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.


Just continue the racism and sexism. What a winner of a strategy. It’s so discouraging to see Democrats embrace the worst of Republican strategies.


Listen to Republicans. It is all bigotry all the time. It’s all about protecting “us” (clannish white Christians) by kicking “them” (any and all who are not in the delusional cult). Trump, Speaker Johnson, Republican Governors, it’s all they do and say. Paranoid bigotry is their only message.


And yet the 4 African American male Republicans in Congress and the 1 African American male Republican in the Senate all were voted into office in districts with majority white people. I'm tired of being called a bigot.


Then you should stop supporting bigots.


People who are trying to be on your side are totally put off by this attitude. The black and white thinking is ooc!


DP.. I don't know a single person whose politics are solely defined in black and white by bigot vs not-bigot. For most on the left it's more the overall - that they don't see whatever merits of the GOP as sufficiently outweighing or counterbalancing their negatives, such as bigotry.

If anything in my experience it's conservatives who are far less interested in nuance and threading the needle in the complexities of the real world, who instead primarily focus their politics around their own narrow litmus-test black-and-whites, such as going along with a candidate no matter how bad he is as long as he is pro-gun or pro-life or whatever that one dearest litmus-test issue is.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I definitely understood Bush-era Republicans but I just cannot wrap my mind around how any remotely educated woman today could consider herself a part of the Republican party. Can someone please explain it to me? What is appealing about the Republican party?


Wanting to keep more of your paycheck and not having so much of your paycheck taxed away.

Wanting low inflation and a strong economy.

Pro women sports in which women can compete against women.

Strong schools. Challenging classes in the schools. Strong schools and challenging classes for all students in all neighborhoods.

Safe schools. Safe schools for teachers and safe schools for students.


Republicans have given massive tax breaks to the richest while shifting more tax burden to the middle class.

By the numbers, for the last 80+ years, Republicans have more often than not significantly underperformed Democrats on most economic metrics.

Sports eligibility should be handled by the relevant orgs, same as doping. Weird that the people who oppose government involvement choose this one area for more involvement.

What have Republicans done to help schools? They attack, demonize and demoralize teachers, they defund public schools by shifting funding to privately owned, for-profit charters, many of which aren't any better than the private schools and which often don't even meet public schools standards, or if they are actually a high performing charter, most low income students don't have access to it

Safe schools? Not when we let lunatics with mental health issues, histories of domestic violence and other things buy guns and shoot kids in their schools. And arming teachers? You want to arm the teachers that you falsely accuse of being incompetent communists who want to push gay marriage and anti-white racism on our kids?

Make it make sense! The GOP is anything but.


We’re focusing on “sports eligibility” because Biden has gutted Title 9 and are supposed to be the party for feminists. And now they aren’t so that changes some of our calculus.
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Anonymous wrote:HOW are Republicans worse? Dems are always accusing Republicans of all manner of atrocity, like “destroying the country.” They seldom back up these claims with specifics.


Have you looked at all the crazy idiot Republicans in Congress? Have you actually watched Trump’s deranged idiocy? Have you looked at the crazy Republicans in Texas and Alabama and Mississippi and Florida and Louisiana and Arkansas who are legislating extremist lunatic policies? Wake up. Their insanity is right there in the open.


Pro-crime democrats are ruining the country. They are also flooding the USA will unskilled illegal aliens from everywhere. Many are criminal gang members.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I definitely understood Bush-era Republicans but I just cannot wrap my mind around how any remotely educated woman today could consider herself a part of the Republican party. Can someone please explain it to me? What is appealing about the Republican party?


Wanting to keep more of your paycheck and not having so much of your paycheck taxed away.

Wanting low inflation and a strong economy.

Pro women sports in which women can compete against women.

Strong schools. Challenging classes in the schools. Strong schools and challenging classes for all students in all neighborhoods.

Safe schools. Safe schools for teachers and safe schools for students.


Republicans have given massive tax breaks to the richest while shifting more tax burden to the middle class.

By the numbers, for the last 80+ years, Republicans have more often than not significantly underperformed Democrats on most economic metrics.

Sports eligibility should be handled by the relevant orgs, same as doping. Weird that the people who oppose government involvement choose this one area for more involvement.

What have Republicans done to help schools? They attack, demonize and demoralize teachers, they defund public schools by shifting funding to privately owned, for-profit charters, many of which aren't any better than the private schools and which often don't even meet public schools standards, or if they are actually a high performing charter, most low income students don't have access to it

Safe schools? Not when we let lunatics with mental health issues, histories of domestic violence and other things buy guns and shoot kids in their schools. And arming teachers? You want to arm the teachers that you falsely accuse of being incompetent communists who want to push gay marriage and anti-white racism on our kids?

Make it make sense! The GOP is anything but.


We’re focusing on “sports eligibility” because Biden has gutted Title 9 and are supposed to be the party for feminists. And now they aren’t so that changes some of our calculus.


That's not my understanding of it at all. Title IX wasn't "gutted" and in fact it strengthened provisions for example protections against abuse, to help protect girls against situations like how Larry Nassar abused the gymnasts he was coaching, or for that matter more protections for female athletes being sexually assaulted by fellow athletes. It does have language regarding anti-LGBTQ bullying but contrary to republican claims, Biden's changes to Title IX doesn't actually specifically say anything whatsoever for or against transwomen being allowed to compete against biological women, which in effect leaves it the status quo. To claim that Biden somehow opened a door or gave a green light isn't really supported by the bill language itself.
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Anonymous wrote:HOW are Republicans worse? Dems are always accusing Republicans of all manner of atrocity, like “destroying the country.” They seldom back up these claims with specifics.


Have you looked at all the crazy idiot Republicans in Congress? Have you actually watched Trump’s deranged idiocy? Have you looked at the crazy Republicans in Texas and Alabama and Mississippi and Florida and Louisiana and Arkansas who are legislating extremist lunatic policies? Wake up. Their insanity is right there in the open.


Pro-crime democrats are ruining the country. They are also flooding the USA will unskilled illegal aliens from everywhere. Many are criminal gang members.


According to actual crime data, overall crime rates among migrants are actually much lower than those of people born in the US. Most migrants prefer to keep their heads down and mind their P's and Q's to avoid making problems so that they don't end up getting deported. Most actually don't have any gang affiliation whatsoever and came here to escape gangs, but unfortunately the few who are gang members make bad news headlines through their criming which elevates visibility of migrant crime.

As for the "unskilled labor" ironically Republican businessmen LOVE hiring the hell out of them, because they are cheap and typically are willing to work a lot harder, do more dangerous jobs, and so on than their low-skilled American counterparts are.
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.


On the contrary, as a white republican woman, no one is trying to terrify me about black men. Just this morning, I listened to an interview of a black man who is on the short list for Trump's VP-- one of two black men on the list. In general, black people tend to have value systems closer to white conservatives than white conservatives have to white progressives. Meaning, I find more in common with the average black man than with a white progressive women.

Fair point on the open border and massive expansion of the drag queen industrial complex. The possibilities are terrifying.


Are you conveniently forgetting all the emotional appeals to imaginary grievances about CRT, Affirmative Action, banning books written by Black authors or offering Black perspectives, and all the paranoid racial stereotypes about crime, welfare, drugs, etc.?

It is coming again soon. Every election year the Republicans’ closing argument to suburban women is that they will protect your children and your neighborhoods and your schools by keeping Blacks and Hispanics away. Republicans are the “put them back in their place” party. As a Republican woman, that is what you vote for.


No one is saying they will keep blacks and Hispanics away. You have no idea what is being said in right wing media. Trump is massively gaining ground with Hispanic voters and gaining a respectable amount of black voters as well. You need to just stop bc you come across as really racist. Black and Hispanic people aren't the problem.


Democrats are massively gaining ground with women in their 20s, 30s and 40s.


Questionable whether they are doing so in critical swing states.


It is every state and it is easy to understand why. Double down on possibly getting some men to choose you because that is your only prayer.
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.


On the contrary, as a white republican woman, no one is trying to terrify me about black men. Just this morning, I listened to an interview of a black man who is on the short list for Trump's VP-- one of two black men on the list. In general, black people tend to have value systems closer to white conservatives than white conservatives have to white progressives. Meaning, I find more in common with the average black man than with a white progressive women.

Fair point on the open border and massive expansion of the drag queen industrial complex. The possibilities are terrifying.


Are you conveniently forgetting all the emotional appeals to imaginary grievances about CRT, Affirmative Action, banning books written by Black authors or offering Black perspectives, and all the paranoid racial stereotypes about crime, welfare, drugs, etc.?

It is coming again soon. Every election year the Republicans’ closing argument to suburban women is that they will protect your children and your neighborhoods and your schools by keeping Blacks and Hispanics away. Republicans are the “put them back in their place” party. As a Republican woman, that is what you vote for.


No one is saying they will keep blacks and Hispanics away. You have no idea what is being said in right wing media. Trump is massively gaining ground with Hispanic voters and gaining a respectable amount of black voters as well. You need to just stop bc you come across as really racist. Black and Hispanic people aren't the problem.


Democrats are massively gaining ground with women in their 20s, 30s and 40s.


Questionable whether they are doing so in critical swing states.


It is every state and it is easy to understand why. Double down on possibly getting some men to choose you because that is your only prayer.


Why do you assume I am a Republican Trump supporter? I am neither Republican nor a Trump supporter.

What I do think is that Democrats are deeply delusional, and they are going to be shocked come November. What happened in Europe with the European Parliament elections, what is happening in Canada, that’s going to happen here. And it’s because Democrats are like those posting in this thread, somehow bizarrely convinced that screeching at people about how they are racist for not wanting open borders and transphobic for not wanting boys defeating their daughters in sports is going to win them voters. This thread is just a microcosm of the failures of the party as a whole. There are a whole bunch of people who are convinced that if you just scream loudly enough in people’s faces about how they are wrong, those people will finally see the light of day and vote for you.

It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. And the Democrats are not reading the room, particularly in swing states.

Do you follow international politics at all? I have ties to Ireland so I follow Irish politics. In March, there were two constitutional referendums that the liberal establishment threw their weight behind and fully expected to pass. The mainstream pollsters, all the major pundits, all the major political figures (including the opposition): they all expected an easy victory. The voices saying hold up, this isn’t popular, especially with women, were few and far between. In fact the women warning that the referendums were not popular were mocked, often with overtly sexist and ageist language.

The vote, which concerned the role and identity of Irish women, was held on international women’s day. That’s how confident the politicians were about it. They knew better than Irish women what Irish women wanted, and they told them as much.

But the referendums failed, by a shockingly high margin. It was one of the worst electoral defeats seen in a long time:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ireland-looks-set-reject-constitutional-changes-2024-03-09/

To the political establishment, this was shocking. But here’s the thing: it was not shocking to anyone who actually got out and spoke to Irish women. The political powers, however, had essentially created a framework in which anyone who voted against the referendums were sexist, transphobic, racist, whatever. And by embracing that name-calling early on, that stopped any possibility of dialogue. The political leaders just stopped listening to Irish women, and decided for them what was best.

But the women didn’t like it. And they quietly told the government so, without fuss, but with a landslide rejection.

I see the Democrats doing the same thing here, and they are going to be shocked.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.


On the contrary, as a white republican woman, no one is trying to terrify me about black men. Just this morning, I listened to an interview of a black man who is on the short list for Trump's VP-- one of two black men on the list. In general, black people tend to have value systems closer to white conservatives than white conservatives have to white progressives. Meaning, I find more in common with the average black man than with a white progressive women.

Fair point on the open border and massive expansion of the drag queen industrial complex. The possibilities are terrifying.


Are you conveniently forgetting all the emotional appeals to imaginary grievances about CRT, Affirmative Action, banning books written by Black authors or offering Black perspectives, and all the paranoid racial stereotypes about crime, welfare, drugs, etc.?

It is coming again soon. Every election year the Republicans’ closing argument to suburban women is that they will protect your children and your neighborhoods and your schools by keeping Blacks and Hispanics away. Republicans are the “put them back in their place” party. As a Republican woman, that is what you vote for.


No one is saying they will keep blacks and Hispanics away. You have no idea what is being said in right wing media. Trump is massively gaining ground with Hispanic voters and gaining a respectable amount of black voters as well. You need to just stop bc you come across as really racist. Black and Hispanic people aren't the problem.


Democrats are massively gaining ground with women in their 20s, 30s and 40s.


Questionable whether they are doing so in critical swing states.


It is every state and it is easy to understand why. Double down on possibly getting some men to choose you because that is your only prayer.


Why do you assume I am a Republican Trump supporter? I am neither Republican nor a Trump supporter.

What I do think is that Democrats are deeply delusional, and they are going to be shocked come November. What happened in Europe with the European Parliament elections, what is happening in Canada, that’s going to happen here. And it’s because Democrats are like those posting in this thread, somehow bizarrely convinced that screeching at people about how they are racist for not wanting open borders and transphobic for not wanting boys defeating their daughters in sports is going to win them voters. This thread is just a microcosm of the failures of the party as a whole. There are a whole bunch of people who are convinced that if you just scream loudly enough in people’s faces about how they are wrong, those people will finally see the light of day and vote for you.

It doesn’t work. It’s never worked. And the Democrats are not reading the room, particularly in swing states.

Do you follow international politics at all? I have ties to Ireland so I follow Irish politics. In March, there were two constitutional referendums that the liberal establishment threw their weight behind and fully expected to pass. The mainstream pollsters, all the major pundits, all the major political figures (including the opposition): they all expected an easy victory. The voices saying hold up, this isn’t popular, especially with women, were few and far between. In fact the women warning that the referendums were not popular were mocked, often with overtly sexist and ageist language.

The vote, which concerned the role and identity of Irish women, was held on international women’s day. That’s how confident the politicians were about it. They knew better than Irish women what Irish women wanted, and they told them as much.

But the referendums failed, by a shockingly high margin. It was one of the worst electoral defeats seen in a long time:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ireland-looks-set-reject-constitutional-changes-2024-03-09/

To the political establishment, this was shocking. But here’s the thing: it was not shocking to anyone who actually got out and spoke to Irish women. The political powers, however, had essentially created a framework in which anyone who voted against the referendums were sexist, transphobic, racist, whatever. And by embracing that name-calling early on, that stopped any possibility of dialogue. The political leaders just stopped listening to Irish women, and decided for them what was best.

But the women didn’t like it. And they quietly told the government so, without fuss, but with a landslide rejection.

I see the Democrats doing the same thing here, and they are going to be shocked.



The OP was asking about Republican women. Yet it's you who keeps repeatedly chiming in on behalf of Republican women, to tell us why they are Republican women even though you yourself are not a Republican woman. And in every single exchange you turn it into "they are Republicans because Democrats are awful" as if that's the one and only reason why Republican women exist. That's the one and only narrative that seems to exist in your life.
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.


Just continue the racism and sexism. What a winner of a strategy. It’s so discouraging to see Democrats embrace the worst of Republican strategies.


Listen to Republicans. It is all bigotry all the time. It’s all about protecting “us” (clannish white Christians) by kicking “them” (any and all who are not in the delusional cult). Trump, Speaker Johnson, Republican Governors, it’s all they do and say. Paranoid bigotry is their only message.


And yet the 4 African American male Republicans in Congress and the 1 African American male Republican in the Senate all were voted into office in districts with majority white people. I'm tired of being called a bigot.


Then you should stop supporting bigots.


People who are trying to be on your side are totally put off by this attitude. The black and white thinking is ooc!


DP.. I don't know a single person whose politics are solely defined in black and white by bigot vs not-bigot. For most on the left it's more the overall - that they don't see whatever merits of the GOP as sufficiently outweighing or counterbalancing their negatives, such as bigotry.

If anything in my experience it's conservatives who are far less interested in nuance and threading the needle in the complexities of the real world, who instead primarily focus their politics around their own narrow litmus-test black-and-whites, such as going along with a candidate no matter how bad he is as long as he is pro-gun or pro-life or whatever that one dearest litmus-test issue is.


Exactly.
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Anonymous wrote:HOW are Republicans worse? Dems are always accusing Republicans of all manner of atrocity, like “destroying the country.” They seldom back up these claims with specifics.


Have you looked at all the crazy idiot Republicans in Congress? Have you actually watched Trump’s deranged idiocy? Have you looked at the crazy Republicans in Texas and Alabama and Mississippi and Florida and Louisiana and Arkansas who are legislating extremist lunatic policies? Wake up. Their insanity is right there in the open.


Pro-crime democrats are ruining the country. They are also flooding the USA will unskilled illegal aliens from everywhere. Many are criminal gang members.


What utter nonsense and lies. Pro-crime? Are you high?
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Anonymous wrote:HOW are Republicans worse? Dems are always accusing Republicans of all manner of atrocity, like “destroying the country.” They seldom back up these claims with specifics.


Have you looked at all the crazy idiot Republicans in Congress? Have you actually watched Trump’s deranged idiocy? Have you looked at the crazy Republicans in Texas and Alabama and Mississippi and Florida and Louisiana and Arkansas who are legislating extremist lunatic policies? Wake up. Their insanity is right there in the open.


Pro-crime democrats are ruining the country. They are also flooding the USA will unskilled illegal aliens from everywhere. Many are criminal gang members.


According to actual crime data, overall crime rates among migrants are actually much lower than those of people born in the US. Most migrants prefer to keep their heads down and mind their P's and Q's to avoid making problems so that they don't end up getting deported. Most actually don't have any gang affiliation whatsoever and came here to escape gangs, but unfortunately the few who are gang members make bad news headlines through their criming which elevates visibility of migrant crime.

As for the "unskilled labor" ironically Republican businessmen LOVE hiring the hell out of them, because they are cheap and typically are willing to work a lot harder, do more dangerous jobs, and so on than their low-skilled American counterparts are.


You are trying to use reason, logic and facts with someone who is completely disinterested in and unable to understand reason, logic and facts.

And oh the irony of anyone who supports convicted felon Trump calling Dems "pro-crime". More GOP projection. Good Lord save us from the morons who think Trump will do anything to help this country.
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I am more than just my ovaries, thus my vote factors in more than a single issue. Don’t reduce me to that. It’s insulting. Dem NP, who votes more R with every election.
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