Help me understand Republican women in their 30s and 40s

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Anonymous wrote:HOW are Republicans worse? Dems are always accusing Republicans of all manner of atrocity, like “destroying the country.” They seldom back up these claims with specifics.

Have you looked at all the crazy idiot Republicans in Congress? Have you actually watched Trump’s deranged idiocy? Have you looked at the crazy Republicans in Texas and Alabama and Mississippi and Florida and Louisiana and Arkansas who are legislating extremist lunatic policies? Wake up. Their insanity is right there in the open.

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Anonymous wrote:I lived in Europe in the 1980s & people there often called Reagan a “cowboy,” thinking it was a penetrating rebuke of his freewheeling tough-guy style.

But they didn’t realize the cowboy archetype embodied an array of attributes that many Americans found admirable. Contemporary Democrats make the same mistake with the term “MAGA.” They think it is a one-punch knockout, when in fact there are tens of millions of Americans who LIKE the values it represents. The lone man fighting against the corrupt system & being mocked by smug dandies (Democrats, Macron, Trudeau etc) is exactly what people like about Trump.

And his recent sham convictions only make him look more like Gary Cooper & John Wayne taking on the mob.

OMG be serious. Trump is so corrupt. He treats you like idiots but you are not actually that idiotic. He is corrupting the system to his advantage and always has and always will. He changed from being a Democrat to a Republican when he was not able to manipulate enough Democrats to his satisfaction.

Note the lack of specifics here.

Also, an army of Freds & journalists have been exploring every aspect of his life for almost a decade now, and they STILL had to invent crimes to accuse him of.

The Russian collusion & all other allegations proved to be groundless, so let’s pretend he’s the first guy to get a non-disclosure agreement, & let’s pretend they are illegal, & let’s pretend it’s a big deal to put a payment in a certain category. Wow, he’s sooo evil!!

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are the default opposition party if you think that Democrats are being too fake or too pandering or too exploitative.

Sure, if I voted with my emotions I might vote for Trump. But I won’t do that, I don’t think. I wish Dems could pick a candidate at the top. They haven’t had a good candidate at the top ticket since Obama.

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Anonymous wrote:I lived in Europe in the 1980s & people there often called Reagan a “cowboy,” thinking it was a penetrating rebuke of his freewheeling tough-guy style.

But they didn’t realize the cowboy archetype embodied an array of attributes that many Americans found admirable. Contemporary Democrats make the same mistake with the term “MAGA.” They think it is a one-punch knockout, when in fact there are tens of millions of Americans who LIKE the values it represents. The lone man fighting against the corrupt system & being mocked by smug dandies (Democrats, Macron, Trudeau etc) is exactly what people like about Trump.

And his recent sham convictions only make him look more like Gary Cooper & John Wayne taking on the mob.

OMG be serious. Trump is so corrupt. He treats you like idiots but you are not actually that idiotic. He is corrupting the system to his advantage and always has and always will. He changed from being a Democrat to a Republican when he was not able to manipulate enough Democrats to his satisfaction.

Note the lack of specifics here.

Also, an army of Freds & journalists have been exploring every aspect of his life for almost a decade now, and they STILL had to invent crimes to accuse him of.

The Russian collusion & all other allegations proved to be groundless, so let’s pretend he’s the first guy to get a non-disclosure agreement, & let’s pretend they are illegal, & let’s pretend it’s a big deal to put a payment in a certain category. Wow, he’s sooo evil!!

Invented? Pretend? Wow, look at the whitewashing and gaslighting going on here. Do you think we somehow forgot about Manafort and Gates and how they worked with Russia, how Manafort was revealed to have shared internal campaign data with Russian intelligence? Do you think we forgot about Michael Flynn who had secret, undisclosed meetings with Russian officials including Sergei Kislyak, who lied about it to the FBI and pled guilty to it? Jared Kushner also had secret, undisclosed meetings with Kislyak right after the 2016 election. Do you think we forgot about Don Jr. who met with Russian operative Natalia Veselnitskaya regarding using Russian kompromat against Hillary Clinton? Do you think we forgot about Papadopoulous who was also working with Russian operatives to get kompromat on Hillary Clinton, who also pled guilty to lying to the FBI? And let us also not forget about Trump's good buddy Roger Stone who worked with some of the more sleazy of Russian operatives, such as the folks who hacked the DNC server, the folks behind Guccifer 2.0 and Wikileaks. And there were a whole host of other connections too. But sure, it's all "invented" and "pretend" never mind the piles and piles of evidence, the prosecutions, the fact that a bunch of these guys went to jail for it. Because Trump never had anything to do with Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.

Just continue the racism and sexism. What a winner of a strategy. It’s so discouraging to see Democrats embrace the worst of Republican strategies.

Listen to Republicans. It is all bigotry all the time. It’s all about protecting “us” (clannish white Christians) by kicking “them” (any and all who are not in the delusional cult). Trump, Speaker Johnson, Republican Governors, it’s all they do and say. Paranoid bigotry is their only message.

And yet the 4 African American male Republicans in Congress and the 1 African American male Republican in the Senate all were voted into office in districts with majority white people. I'm tired of being called a bigot.

Then you should stop supporting bigots.

DP. When you grow up, you'll learn that people aren't "racists" and "bigots" merely because they disagree with you. The rest of us learned that a long time ago.

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Anonymous wrote:HOW are Republicans worse? Dems are always accusing Republicans of all manner of atrocity, like “destroying the country.” They seldom back up these claims with specifics.

Have you looked at all the crazy idiot Republicans in Congress? Have you actually watched Trump’s deranged idiocy? Have you looked at the crazy Republicans in Texas and Alabama and Mississippi and Florida and Louisiana and Arkansas who are legislating extremist lunatic policies? Wake up. Their insanity is right there in the open.

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I can't remember the last time there was a scandal involving a Democrat member of Congress giving a person who wasn't her husband a handjob in a crowded movie theater full of children. Or when a Democrat practically caused a constitutional crisis by not allowing the House to have a Speaker. Or the last time a Democrat had a tantrum and caused the federal government to shut down for weeks. That's because most of the Democrats actually care about governing, and aren't even remotely as bad as the wackos like MTG, Boebert, Gaetz and the others. And there's three more specifics yet the PP will say "yabut you don't give specifics."

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.

Just continue the racism and sexism. What a winner of a strategy. It’s so discouraging to see Democrats embrace the worst of Republican strategies.

Listen to Republicans. It is all bigotry all the time. It’s all about protecting “us” (clannish white Christians) by kicking “them” (any and all who are not in the delusional cult). Trump, Speaker Johnson, Republican Governors, it’s all they do and say. Paranoid bigotry is their only message.

And yet the 4 African American male Republicans in Congress and the 1 African American male Republican in the Senate all were voted into office in districts with majority white people. I'm tired of being called a bigot.

Then you should stop supporting bigots.

DP. When you grow up, you'll learn that people aren't "racists" and "bigots" merely because they disagree with you. The rest of us learned that a long time ago.

Nice try. When you grow up, maybe you'll learn that people aren't "misogynists" or "communists" or "leftist extremists" or "antifa terrorists" or "pro-Hamas antisemites" or whatever else just because they don't agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are the default opposition party if you think that Democrats are being too fake or too pandering or too exploitative.

That's like going from the frying pan straight to the fire. It's like cutting your own nose off to spite your face. If you dislike Democrats for their behavior why side with a party that's objectively far worse on every measure? The better solution would be to go independent or find a third party that better suits you.

"Objectively."

Like how the Republican presidential candidate is objectively more cognitively impaired that the Democratic candidate?

Like how the Republican candidate objectively puts us at greater risk of nuclear war than the Democratic candidate?

Some might consider asking someone to vote third party as a request not to vote. Yes, I have voted third party, by the way.

Your side ROUTINELY levels specific accusations at anyone who disagrees with them of being communists, of supporting gun confiscation, of being anti-capitalist and opposing private ownership of property, accuses them of burning down cities, being anti-semites, misogynists, and whatever else, regardless of any objective facts to back any of it up. Along with draining everyone's IQ with the stupidity of the whole host of wild right wing conspiracy theories about how Trump won but had it stolen from him via a massive fraud operation, about how J6 was actually "Antifa" and "Feds" and a bunch of America-loving grandmas were falsely arrested for nothing more than being waved in by security guards, and that the deaths of 5 Capitol Police within days of the attack had absolutely nothing to do with J6. And that Donald Trump is an honest man who didn't break any laws but instead has been the subject of a massive baseless witch hunt. Republicans don't even know the meaning of the word "objective"

Don't get me wrong - I hear you. Usually, when Democrats say what bothers them or what they want to accomplish, I agree with them. It's just that I've lost faith that when the cards are down, the Democrats will be the ones doing the right thing.

The two examples I gave were two of the more prominent things we used to hear about Trump all the time. It's easy to see how Trump or the Republicans are deeply flawed. It isn't safe to assume that Democrats are always - or even usually - the "lesser" evil.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are the default opposition party if you think that Democrats are being too fake or too pandering or too exploitative.

That's like going from the frying pan straight to the fire. It's like cutting your own nose off to spite your face. If you dislike Democrats for their behavior why side with a party that's objectively far worse on every measure? The better solution would be to go independent or find a third party that better suits you.

"Objectively."

Like how the Republican presidential candidate is objectively more cognitively impaired that the Democratic candidate?

Like how the Republican candidate objectively puts us at greater risk of nuclear war than the Democratic candidate?

Some might consider asking someone to vote third party as a request not to vote. Yes, I have voted third party, by the way.

Your side ROUTINELY levels specific accusations at anyone who disagrees with them of being communists, of supporting gun confiscation, of being anti-capitalist and opposing private ownership of property, accuses them of burning down cities, being anti-semites, misogynists, and whatever else, regardless of any objective facts to back any of it up. Along with draining everyone's IQ with the stupidity of the whole host of wild right wing conspiracy theories about how Trump won but had it stolen from him via a massive fraud operation, about how J6 was actually "Antifa" and "Feds" and a bunch of America-loving grandmas were falsely arrested for nothing more than being waved in by security guards, and that the deaths of 5 Capitol Police within days of the attack had absolutely nothing to do with J6. And that Donald Trump is an honest man who didn't break any laws but instead has been the subject of a massive baseless witch hunt. Republicans don't even know the meaning of the word "objective"

Don't get me wrong - I hear you. Usually, when Democrats say what bothers them or what they want to accomplish, I agree with them. It's just that I've lost faith that when the cards are down, the Democrats will be the ones doing the right thing.

The two examples I gave were two of the more prominent things we used to hear about Trump all the time. It's easy to see how Trump or the Republicans are deeply flawed. It isn't safe to assume that Democrats are always - or even usually - the "lesser" evil.

Democrats certainly have their flaws and don't get everything right but from my experience, I'd consider it a definite reach to suggest they are an "equivalent" evil or "worse" evil.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.

Just continue the racism and sexism. What a winner of a strategy. It’s so discouraging to see Democrats embrace the worst of Republican strategies.

Listen to Republicans. It is all bigotry all the time. It’s all about protecting “us” (clannish white Christians) by kicking “them” (any and all who are not in the delusional cult). Trump, Speaker Johnson, Republican Governors, it’s all they do and say. Paranoid bigotry is their only message.

And yet the 4 African American male Republicans in Congress and the 1 African American male Republican in the Senate all were voted into office in districts with majority white people. I'm tired of being called a bigot.

Then you should stop supporting bigots.

DP. When you grow up, you'll learn that people aren't "racists" and "bigots" merely because they disagree with you. The rest of us learned that a long time ago.

Nice try. When you grow up, maybe you'll learn that people aren't "misogynists" or "communists" or "leftist extremists" or "antifa terrorists" or "pro-Hamas antisemites" or whatever else just because they don't agree with you.

Nice try, indeed. You actually used the word "bigot." I used none of those words/expressions. Failure on your part.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.

On the contrary, as a white republican woman, no one is trying to terrify me about black men. Just this morning, I listened to an interview of a black man who is on the short list for Trump's VP-- one of two black men on the list. In general, black people tend to have value systems closer to white conservatives than white conservatives have to white progressives. Meaning, I find more in common with the average black man than with a white progressive women.

Fair point on the open border and massive expansion of the drag queen industrial complex. The possibilities are terrifying.

Are you conveniently forgetting all the emotional appeals to imaginary grievances about CRT, Affirmative Action, banning books written by Black authors or offering Black perspectives, and all the paranoid racial stereotypes about crime, welfare, drugs, etc.?

It is coming again soon. Every election year the Republicans’ closing argument to suburban women is that they will protect your children and your neighborhoods and your schools by keeping Blacks and Hispanics away. Republicans are the “put them back in their place” party. As a Republican woman, that is what you vote for.

No one is saying they will keep blacks and Hispanics away. You have no idea what is being said in right wing media. Trump is massively gaining ground with Hispanic voters and gaining a respectable amount of black voters as well. You need to just stop bc you come across as really racist. Black and Hispanic people aren't the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.

Just continue the racism and sexism. What a winner of a strategy. It’s so discouraging to see Democrats embrace the worst of Republican strategies.

Listen to Republicans. It is all bigotry all the time. It’s all about protecting “us” (clannish white Christians) by kicking “them” (any and all who are not in the delusional cult). Trump, Speaker Johnson, Republican Governors, it’s all they do and say. Paranoid bigotry is their only message.

And yet the 4 African American male Republicans in Congress and the 1 African American male Republican in the Senate all were voted into office in districts with majority white people. I'm tired of being called a bigot.

Then you should stop supporting bigots.

DP. When you grow up, you'll learn that people aren't "racists" and "bigots" merely because they disagree with you. The rest of us learned that a long time ago.

Nice try. When you grow up, maybe you'll learn that people aren't "misogynists" or "communists" or "leftist extremists" or "antifa terrorists" or "pro-Hamas antisemites" or whatever else just because they don't agree with you.

Nice try, indeed. You actually used the word "bigot." I used none of those words/expressions. Failure on your part.

For the record, I'm not the person who called you a bigot. There are multiple posters here. But I am the person who brought up all of the names that our side gets called.

You have a bizarrely narrow focus, it's as if you are living in some kind of a vacuum, that nobody else on your side exists and nobody uses those words against us, you somehow never see those posts, and that somehow everyone you're shouting at and disagreeing with here on DCUM is one single person. That is not the case.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.

On the contrary, as a white republican woman, no one is trying to terrify me about black men. Just this morning, I listened to an interview of a black man who is on the short list for Trump's VP-- one of two black men on the list. In general, black people tend to have value systems closer to white conservatives than white conservatives have to white progressives. Meaning, I find more in common with the average black man than with a white progressive women.

Fair point on the open border and massive expansion of the drag queen industrial complex. The possibilities are terrifying.

Are you conveniently forgetting all the emotional appeals to imaginary grievances about CRT, Affirmative Action, banning books written by Black authors or offering Black perspectives, and all the paranoid racial stereotypes about crime, welfare, drugs, etc.?

It is coming again soon. Every election year the Republicans’ closing argument to suburban women is that they will protect your children and your neighborhoods and your schools by keeping Blacks and Hispanics away. Republicans are the “put them back in their place” party. As a Republican woman, that is what you vote for.

No one is saying they will keep blacks and Hispanics away. You have no idea what is being said in right wing media. Trump is massively gaining ground with Hispanic voters and gaining a respectable amount of black voters as well. You need to just stop bc you come across as really racist. Black and Hispanic people aren't the problem.

^ Massive overstatements. Those percentage gains are actually quite small.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans target white women by trying to terrify them about Blacks and immigrants and transgender and drag queens coming after them and their kids. It’s all fear and prejudice bigotry trolling, plus the women in patriarchal evangelical churches who can’t think for themselves.

On the contrary, as a white republican woman, no one is trying to terrify me about black men. Just this morning, I listened to an interview of a black man who is on the short list for Trump's VP-- one of two black men on the list. In general, black people tend to have value systems closer to white conservatives than white conservatives have to white progressives. Meaning, I find more in common with the average black man than with a white progressive women.

Fair point on the open border and massive expansion of the drag queen industrial complex. The possibilities are terrifying.

Are you conveniently forgetting all the emotional appeals to imaginary grievances about CRT, Affirmative Action, banning books written by Black authors or offering Black perspectives, and all the paranoid racial stereotypes about crime, welfare, drugs, etc.?

It is coming again soon. Every election year the Republicans’ closing argument to suburban women is that they will protect your children and your neighborhoods and your schools by keeping Blacks and Hispanics away. Republicans are the “put them back in their place” party. As a Republican woman, that is what you vote for.

No one is saying they will keep blacks and Hispanics away. You have no idea what is being said in right wing media. Trump is massively gaining ground with Hispanic voters and gaining a respectable amount of black voters as well. You need to just stop bc you come across as really racist. Black and Hispanic people aren't the problem.

Democrats are massively gaining ground with women in their 20s, 30s and 40s.

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Anonymous wrote:I definitely understood Bush-era Republicans but I just cannot wrap my mind around how any remotely educated woman today could consider herself a part of the Republican party. Can someone please explain it to me? What is appealing about the Republican party?

Wanting to keep more of your paycheck and not having so much of your paycheck taxed away.

Wanting low inflation and a strong economy.

Pro women sports in which women can compete against women.

Strong schools. Challenging classes in the schools. Strong schools and challenging classes for all students in all neighborhoods.

Safe schools. Safe schools for teachers and safe schools for students.