4 students in University of Idaho, killed in their home.

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Anonymous wrote:He had been into drugs big time. There's your "mental illness."

He was trying to lose weight because he was bullied. Are any of the PPs trying to tell me that his parents could not get him on a food/exercise regimen? Even if his family didn't have insurance ('cause I know y'all just waiting to make excuses for this BS) his parents could have easily....y'know, parented......and helped their son with his weight and then later, his drug problem. I don't even know where to start with this. It simply didn't have to happen. It did not have to end this way.

I feel like some of you are neglecting your kids, just because you actually want to play out some drama. If it's not you, don't worry about it. But if it is you, get help - for you and your child.

Who resorts to heroin for weight loss? I have struggled with my weight ever since I can remember, but you damn well better be sure my parents would rather have killed me than watching me shoot heroin to lose weight.

Who are these people trying to defend him and saying his parents were helpless? Were they deaf dumb and blind?

They failed on so many levels. They had so many opportunities to help their son and they just threw up their hands. No excuse. None.

You cling to this because you need to believe that something could have been done, that a diagnosis or treatment or intervention could have prevented this. Otherwise, it would be senseless, and random and tragic and could happen to someone you love.

You’re wrong, but I get it.

I'm not clinging to anything - I am looking at all the mass murders we have had, by people who look very much like this guy.

Open your eyes.

This was not a mass murder. The psychology of someone who stabs people to death in their home and the psychology of someone who shoots people from some distance in public are very, very different.

And you are seriously misinformed about the scope of parental ability to “get help” for an adult with serious mental health problems. Whether he is one or not, who knows—but either way, you’re wrong about what it is possible to do about it.

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Anonymous wrote:He had been into drugs big time. There's your "mental illness."

He was trying to lose weight because he was bullied. Are any of the PPs trying to tell me that his parents could not get him on a food/exercise regimen? Even if his family didn't have insurance ('cause I know y'all just waiting to make excuses for this BS) his parents could have easily....y'know, parented......and helped their son with his weight and then later, his drug problem. I don't even know where to start with this. It simply didn't have to happen. It did not have to end this way.

I feel like some of you are neglecting your kids, just because you actually want to play out some drama. If it's not you, don't worry about it. But if it is you, get help - for you and your child.

Who resorts to heroin for weight loss? I have struggled with my weight ever since I can remember, but you damn well better be sure my parents would rather have killed me than watching me shoot heroin to lose weight.

Who are these people trying to defend him and saying his parents were helpless? Were they deaf dumb and blind?

They failed on so many levels. They had so many opportunities to help their son and they just threw up their hands. No excuse. None.

You cling to this because you need to believe that something could have been done, that a diagnosis or treatment or intervention could have prevented this. Otherwise, it would be senseless, and random and tragic and could happen to someone you love.

You’re wrong, but I get it.

I'm not clinging to anything - I am looking at all the mass murders we have had, by people who look very much like this guy.

Open your eyes.

This was not a mass murder. The psychology of someone who stabs people to death in their home and the psychology of someone who shoots people from some distance in public are very, very different.

And you are seriously misinformed about the scope of parental ability to “get help” for an adult with serious mental health problems. Whether he is one or not, who knows—but either way, you’re wrong about what it is possible to do about it.

You don't know a damn thing about me, so stop trying to pretend.

As a minor, his parents could get him help. As an adult, he could have been committed as a danger to himself or another - plenty of people are coming forward to talk about what type of person he is and was. There have been plenty of opportunities for him to get help.

Stop it with your head in the sand BS.

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Anonymous wrote:He had been into drugs big time. There's your "mental illness."

He was trying to lose weight because he was bullied. Are any of the PPs trying to tell me that his parents could not get him on a food/exercise regimen? Even if his family didn't have insurance ('cause I know y'all just waiting to make excuses for this BS) his parents could have easily....y'know, parented......and helped their son with his weight and then later, his drug problem. I don't even know where to start with this. It simply didn't have to happen. It did not have to end this way.

I feel like some of you are neglecting your kids, just because you actually want to play out some drama. If it's not you, don't worry about it. But if it is you, get help - for you and your child.

Who resorts to heroin for weight loss? I have struggled with my weight ever since I can remember, but you damn well better be sure my parents would rather have killed me than watching me shoot heroin to lose weight.

Who are these people trying to defend him and saying his parents were helpless? Were they deaf dumb and blind?

They failed on so many levels. They had so many opportunities to help their son and they just threw up their hands. No excuse. None.

You cling to this because you need to believe that something could have been done, that a diagnosis or treatment or intervention could have prevented this. Otherwise, it would be senseless, and random and tragic and could happen to someone you love.

You’re wrong, but I get it.

I'm not clinging to anything - I am looking at all the mass murders we have had, by people who look very much like this guy.

Open your eyes.

This was not a mass murder. The psychology of someone who stabs people to death in their home and the psychology of someone who shoots people from some distance in public are very, very different.

And you are seriously misinformed about the scope of parental ability to “get help” for an adult with serious mental health problems. Whether he is one or not, who knows—but either way, you’re wrong about what it is possible to do about it.

You don't know a damn thing about me, so stop trying to pretend.

As a minor, his parents could get him help. As an adult, he could have been committed as a danger to himself or another - plenty of people are coming forward to talk about what type of person he is and was. There have been plenty of opportunities for him to get help.

Stop it with your head in the sand BS.

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You are very very wrong about committing as a danger. He wasn’t a danger. There was nothing to show he was dangerous.

I’ve had a family member EAP’d 2x and they just get let out 24 hours later. They have to be an imminent danger to themselves or others.

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Anonymous wrote:He had been into drugs big time. There's your "mental illness."

He was trying to lose weight because he was bullied. Are any of the PPs trying to tell me that his parents could not get him on a food/exercise regimen? Even if his family didn't have insurance ('cause I know y'all just waiting to make excuses for this BS) his parents could have easily....y'know, parented......and helped their son with his weight and then later, his drug problem. I don't even know where to start with this. It simply didn't have to happen. It did not have to end this way.

I feel like some of you are neglecting your kids, just because you actually want to play out some drama. If it's not you, don't worry about it. But if it is you, get help - for you and your child.

Who resorts to heroin for weight loss? I have struggled with my weight ever since I can remember, but you damn well better be sure my parents would rather have killed me than watching me shoot heroin to lose weight.

Who are these people trying to defend him and saying his parents were helpless? Were they deaf dumb and blind?

They failed on so many levels. They had so many opportunities to help their son and they just threw up their hands. No excuse. None.

You cling to this because you need to believe that something could have been done, that a diagnosis or treatment or intervention could have prevented this. Otherwise, it would be senseless, and random and tragic and could happen to someone you love.

You’re wrong, but I get it.

I'm not clinging to anything - I am looking at all the mass murders we have had, by people who look very much like this guy.

Open your eyes.

This was not a mass murder. The psychology of someone who stabs people to death in their home and the psychology of someone who shoots people from some distance in public are very, very different.

And you are seriously misinformed about the scope of parental ability to “get help” for an adult with serious mental health problems. Whether he is one or not, who knows—but either way, you’re wrong about what it is possible to do about it.

You don't know a damn thing about me, so stop trying to pretend.

As a minor, his parents could get him help. As an adult, he could have been committed as a danger to himself or another - plenty of people are coming forward to talk about what type of person he is and was. There have been plenty of opportunities for him to get help.

Stop it with your head in the sand BS.

You can't be 'committed' for being weird or creepy.

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Anonymous wrote:why are we spending page after page arguing about what caused him to commit these crimes? Is it so we can feel better about ourselves and our children and
be sure that they would never do this?

99.999999% of of schizophrenics, individuals with horrific abuse histories, products of horrible parenting, incels, weirdos, survivors of bullying, etc. etc. would never do this.
There are scores upon scores of each of those categories walking around their entire lives without ever hurting a soul.

99.9999999% of child who weee molested don’t molest but 99% of molesters were molested.

It’s still an issue and when you don’t protect children you get monsters.

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Anonymous wrote:He had been into drugs big time. There's your "mental illness."

He was trying to lose weight because he was bullied. Are any of the PPs trying to tell me that his parents could not get him on a food/exercise regimen? Even if his family didn't have insurance ('cause I know y'all just waiting to make excuses for this BS) his parents could have easily....y'know, parented......and helped their son with his weight and then later, his drug problem. I don't even know where to start with this. It simply didn't have to happen. It did not have to end this way.

I feel like some of you are neglecting your kids, just because you actually want to play out some drama. If it's not you, don't worry about it. But if it is you, get help - for you and your child.

Who resorts to heroin for weight loss? I have struggled with my weight ever since I can remember, but you damn well better be sure my parents would rather have killed me than watching me shoot heroin to lose weight.

Who are these people trying to defend him and saying his parents were helpless? Were they deaf dumb and blind?

They failed on so many levels. They had so many opportunities to help their son and they just threw up their hands. No excuse. None.

You cling to this because you need to believe that something could have been done, that a diagnosis or treatment or intervention could have prevented this. Otherwise, it would be senseless, and random and tragic and could happen to someone you love.

You’re wrong, but I get it.

I'm not clinging to anything - I am looking at all the mass murders we have had, by people who look very much like this guy.

Open your eyes.

This was not a mass murder. The psychology of someone who stabs people to death in their home and the psychology of someone who shoots people from some distance in public are very, very different.

And you are seriously misinformed about the scope of parental ability to “get help” for an adult with serious mental health problems. Whether he is one or not, who knows—but either way, you’re wrong about what it is possible to do about it.

You don't know a damn thing about me, so stop trying to pretend.

As a minor, his parents could get him help. As an adult, he could have been committed as a danger to himself or another - plenty of people are coming forward to talk about what type of person he is and was. There have been plenty of opportunities for him to get help.

Stop it with your head in the sand BS.

You can't be 'committed' for being weird or creepy.

This

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Anonymous wrote:He had been into drugs big time. There's your "mental illness."

He was trying to lose weight because he was bullied. Are any of the PPs trying to tell me that his parents could not get him on a food/exercise regimen? Even if his family didn't have insurance ('cause I know y'all just waiting to make excuses for this BS) his parents could have easily....y'know, parented......and helped their son with his weight and then later, his drug problem. I don't even know where to start with this. It simply didn't have to happen. It did not have to end this way.

I feel like some of you are neglecting your kids, just because you actually want to play out some drama. If it's not you, don't worry about it. But if it is you, get help - for you and your child.

Who resorts to heroin for weight loss? I have struggled with my weight ever since I can remember, but you damn well better be sure my parents would rather have killed me than watching me shoot heroin to lose weight.

Who are these people trying to defend him and saying his parents were helpless? Were they deaf dumb and blind?

They failed on so many levels. They had so many opportunities to help their son and they just threw up their hands. No excuse. None.

You cling to this because you need to believe that something could have been done, that a diagnosis or treatment or intervention could have prevented this. Otherwise, it would be senseless, and random and tragic and could happen to someone you love.

You’re wrong, but I get it.

I'm not clinging to anything - I am looking at all the mass murders we have had, by people who look very much like this guy.

Open your eyes.

This was not a mass murder. The psychology of someone who stabs people to death in their home and the psychology of someone who shoots people from some distance in public are very, very different.

And you are seriously misinformed about the scope of parental ability to “get help” for an adult with serious mental health problems. Whether he is one or not, who knows—but either way, you’re wrong about what it is possible to do about it.

You don't know a damn thing about me, so stop trying to pretend.

As a minor, his parents could get him help. As an adult, he could have been committed as a danger to himself or another - plenty of people are coming forward to talk about what type of person he is and was. There have been plenty of opportunities for him to get help.

Stop it with your head in the sand BS.

You can't be 'committed' for being weird or creepy.

This

PP does not say that.

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Anonymous wrote:He had been into drugs big time. There's your "mental illness."

He was trying to lose weight because he was bullied. Are any of the PPs trying to tell me that his parents could not get him on a food/exercise regimen? Even if his family didn't have insurance ('cause I know y'all just waiting to make excuses for this BS) his parents could have easily....y'know, parented......and helped their son with his weight and then later, his drug problem. I don't even know where to start with this. It simply didn't have to happen. It did not have to end this way.

I feel like some of you are neglecting your kids, just because you actually want to play out some drama. If it's not you, don't worry about it. But if it is you, get help - for you and your child.

Who resorts to heroin for weight loss? I have struggled with my weight ever since I can remember, but you damn well better be sure my parents would rather have killed me than watching me shoot heroin to lose weight.

Who are these people trying to defend him and saying his parents were helpless? Were they deaf dumb and blind?

They failed on so many levels. They had so many opportunities to help their son and they just threw up their hands. No excuse. None.

You cling to this because you need to believe that something could have been done, that a diagnosis or treatment or intervention could have prevented this. Otherwise, it would be senseless, and random and tragic and could happen to someone you love.

You’re wrong, but I get it.

I'm not clinging to anything - I am looking at all the mass murders we have had, by people who look very much like this guy.

Open your eyes.

This was not a mass murder. The psychology of someone who stabs people to death in their home and the psychology of someone who shoots people from some distance in public are very, very different.

And you are seriously misinformed about the scope of parental ability to “get help” for an adult with serious mental health problems. Whether he is one or not, who knows—but either way, you’re wrong about what it is possible to do about it.

You don't know a damn thing about me, so stop trying to pretend.

As a minor, his parents could get him help. As an adult, he could have been committed as a danger to himself or another - plenty of people are coming forward to talk about what type of person he is and was. There have been plenty of opportunities for him to get help.

Stop it with your head in the sand BS.

I was recently in the ER with a friend who was having a psychiatrist emergency. Because he wasn't suicidal staff didn't even order a psych consult. They told us we could request but it would be 5 hours and there were no beds in the region anyway gave him an Ativan and sent us on our way-and this was someone actively asking for help and saying he did not feel safe going home.

My friend's tween "boarded" in the ER for 33 days before getting a psych bed.

. No psych facilities are taking a guy because his family says he seems off and creepy but is clearly a high functioning person

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Anonymous wrote:Wondering about his hometown and where he grew up and if he were noted as troubled and weird at a younger age.

Any info about him growing up?

seems very normal family, two sisters that are therapists, mom actually posted about tragedy of uvalde and against guns and for mental health resources.
no info on dad
fellow phd student said maybe he seemed socially awkward but nothing stood out.

Where are you seeing this? [b]God his poor family.[/b]

+1 Yes. No privacy any longer. Their work addresses and names are out there.

No, the poor families for those four victims. Could care less about his family and no I do not believe for one moment they did not know something was up with this freak show.

PP here. I agree that the parents likely knew something was amiss with him, but often families don't realize the degree of pathology.

There’s often not much families can do without the kid’s cooperation after 18.

True. Our laws need to be changed. Too many people walking aroubd freely when they need monitoring or possibly longterm hospitalization.

There is no such thing anymore. Remember? We closed all the asylums. There is truly no where for those people loved ones are concerned about to go- until after a crime is committed

The vast, vast majority of mentally ill people do not commit murder. Locking people up who seem "weird" isn't the solution. We don't even know if people thought this guy was weird.

People with mental illnesses tend to be disproportionally the victims of violence, not perpetrators. And the people who come off as "weird" to a lot of people tend to be people with some level of autism. "Weird" doesn't equal dangerous. Sociopaths and psychopaths can be quite charming and socially adept.

+1

I'm so damn tired of people trying to explain away violent men. No, it's not mental illness. No, it's not because they were bullied. It's because they felt entitled to slaughter other humans due to their own fragility. That's it.

90% of mass shooters are fatherless.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why his neighbors or parents didn't realize or notify police about the car he drove? It was all over the news.

It might be because there are tens of thousands of white Hyundai Elantras coast to coast. That could be part of it.

PP here. If I knew my friend or son or brother was enrolled in school and lived approximately 10 miles away from the murder scene and also drove a white Hyundai Elantra, it would give me a reason to wonder. I might even think someone had borrowed or stolen it. You wouldn't?

"The University of Idaho has 90 white Hyundai Elantras registered to park at the school, vehicles similar to the one police are seeking in connection with the quadruple homicide just steps off campus, records show."

But not one that mysteriously dissapeared across the country with a grad student who did not return for the rest of Winter break. Kinda stands out, don't you think?

Huh?

Not literally disappeared. He drove the car across the country right after the killings and never went back. That obviously looks suspicious.

He finished out his classes for the semester and went home for winter break, like tens of thousands of other kids from the school.

And if my son had that same car that was being reported in the news, plus knowing he attended school 10 miles away from the murders, I would inform the police.

No, you wouldn’t, because you have no reason to think that your son did anything wrong.

There's a gut feeling that most parents have about a child who struggles with mental health issues.

+1

Trust your gut. Do something now, before it is too late. Making your child someone else's problem is not a plan.

Had the school system stepped in and punished the people bullying him, he might’ve felt better supported. Seems he came from a good family and his problems were in school. Had I not moved my son to a private, he might have take a dark path. He was bullied in public and the school blamed him and let the bullying continue - seemed to enjoy his pain. The private was a 180 difference and he was actually one of the most looked up to kids by the other students. He went on to college and now has a very successful career.

I agree that a bullied child/teen needs the support of the community (family, school, church etc); as we have seen a lot of these mass killings are done by people who were bullied. I understand that a HS kid might not know where to go to seek help so they can overcome the effects of bullying, but adults who were bullied owes it to themselves to seek therapy etc so they can move on with their lives and be productive members of society. Too often adults that were bullied as teens are seeking out places (online forums etc) that takes them down a dark path instead of searching for resources that will help them heal on move on.

+1

Just read some of the posts here, and elsewhere.

Parents, YOU OWE it to YOUR children to get them help - not other people - YOU.

Many do, but if the kid can’t leave the hostile environment, it doesn’t help. This kid endured physical attacks in school, where kids should feel safe

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why his neighbors or parents didn't realize or notify police about the car he drove? It was all over the news.

It might be because there are tens of thousands of white Hyundai Elantras coast to coast. That could be part of it.

PP here. If I knew my friend or son or brother was enrolled in school and lived approximately 10 miles away from the murder scene and also drove a white Hyundai Elantra, it would give me a reason to wonder. I might even think someone had borrowed or stolen it. You wouldn't?

"The University of Idaho has 90 white Hyundai Elantras registered to park at the school, vehicles similar to the one police are seeking in connection with the quadruple homicide just steps off campus, records show."

But not one that mysteriously dissapeared across the country with a grad student who did not return for the rest of Winter break. Kinda stands out, don't you think?

Huh?

Not literally disappeared. He drove the car across the country right after the killings and never went back. That obviously looks suspicious.

He finished out his classes for the semester and went home for winter break, like tens of thousands of other kids from the school.

And if my son had that same car that was being reported in the news, plus knowing he attended school 10 miles away from the murders, I would inform the police.

No, you wouldn’t, because you have no reason to think that your son did anything wrong.

There's a gut feeling that most parents have about a child who struggles with mental health issues.

+1

Trust your gut. Do something now, before it is too late. Making your child someone else's problem is not a plan.

Had the school system stepped in and punished the people bullying him, he might’ve felt better supported. Seems he came from a good family and his problems were in school. Had I not moved my son to a private, he might have take a dark path. He was bullied in public and the school blamed him and let the bullying continue - seemed to enjoy his pain. The private was a 180 difference and he was actually one of the most looked up to kids by the other students. He went on to college and now has a very successful career.

And yet it was Catholic private where my DS was bullied. And the school did nothing.

Hope you pulled him and filed charges

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why his neighbors or parents didn't realize or notify police about the car he drove? It was all over the news.

It might be because there are tens of thousands of white Hyundai Elantras coast to coast. That could be part of it.

PP here. If I knew my friend or son or brother was enrolled in school and lived approximately 10 miles away from the murder scene and also drove a white Hyundai Elantra, it would give me a reason to wonder. I might even think someone had borrowed or stolen it. You wouldn't?

"The University of Idaho has 90 white Hyundai Elantras registered to park at the school, vehicles similar to the one police are seeking in connection with the quadruple homicide just steps off campus, records show."

But not one that mysteriously dissapeared across the country with a grad student who did not return for the rest of Winter break. Kinda stands out, don't you think?

Huh?

Not literally disappeared. He drove the car across the country right after the killings and never went back. That obviously looks suspicious.

He finished out his classes for the semester and went home for winter break, like tens of thousands of other kids from the school.

And if my son had that same car that was being reported in the news, plus knowing he attended school 10 miles away from the murders, I would inform the police.

No, you wouldn’t, because you have no reason to think that your son did anything wrong.

There's a gut feeling that most parents have about a child who struggles with mental health issues.

+1

Trust your gut. Do something now, before it is too late. Making your child someone else's problem is not a plan.

Had the school system stepped in and punished the people bullying him, he might’ve felt better supported. Seems he came from a good family and his problems were in school. Had I not moved my son to a private, he might have take a dark path. He was bullied in public and the school blamed him and let the bullying continue - seemed to enjoy his pain. The private was a 180 difference and he was actually one of the most looked up to kids by the other students. He went on to college and now has a very successful career.

I agree that a bullied child/teen needs the support of the community (family, school, church etc); as we have seen a lot of these mass killings are done by people who were bullied. I understand that a HS kid might not know where to go to seek help so they can overcome the effects of bullying, but adults who were bullied owes it to themselves to seek therapy etc so they can move on with their lives and be productive members of society. Too often adults that were bullied as teens are seeking out places (online forums etc) that takes them down a dark path instead of searching for resources that will help them heal on move on.

+1

Just read some of the posts here, and elsewhere.

Parents, YOU OWE it to YOUR children to get them help - not other people - YOU.

Many do, but if the kid can’t leave the hostile environment, it doesn’t help. This kid endured physical attacks in school, where kids should feel safe

This "kid" is mentally off. He needed intensive psychiatric help. A person doesn't ram a knife multiple times into 4 people and murder them because he was bullied in high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why his neighbors or parents didn't realize or notify police about the car he drove? It was all over the news.

It might be because there are tens of thousands of white Hyundai Elantras coast to coast. That could be part of it.

PP here. If I knew my friend or son or brother was enrolled in school and lived approximately 10 miles away from the murder scene and also drove a white Hyundai Elantra, it would give me a reason to wonder. I might even think someone had borrowed or stolen it. You wouldn't?

"The University of Idaho has 90 white Hyundai Elantras registered to park at the school, vehicles similar to the one police are seeking in connection with the quadruple homicide just steps off campus, records show."

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But not one that mysteriously dissapeared across the country with a grad student who did not return for the rest of Winter break. Kinda stands out, don't you think?

Huh?

Not literally disappeared. He drove the car across the country right after the killings and never went back. That obviously looks suspicious.

He finished out his classes for the semester and went home for winter break, like tens of thousands of other kids from the school.

And if my son had that same car that was being reported in the news, plus knowing he attended school 10 miles away from the murders, I would inform the police.

No, you wouldn’t, because you have no reason to think that your son did anything wrong.

There's a gut feeling that most parents have about a child who struggles with mental health issues.

+1

Trust your gut. Do something now, before it is too late. Making your child someone else's problem is not a plan.

Had the school system stepped in and punished the people bullying him, he might’ve felt better supported. Seems he came from a good family and his problems were in school. Had I not moved my son to a private, he might have take a dark path. He was bullied in public and the school blamed him and let the bullying continue - seemed to enjoy his pain. The private was a 180 difference and he was actually one of the most looked up to kids by the other students. He went on to college and now has a very successful career.

And yet it was Catholic private where my DS was bullied. And the school did nothing.

Hope you pulled him and filed charges

pulled him out and moved to a non-Catholic private and never looked back. Headmaster was also a bulky as were a few of the teachers. Never again!

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Anonymous wrote:He had been into drugs big time. There's your "mental illness."

He was trying to lose weight because he was bullied. Are any of the PPs trying to tell me that his parents could not get him on a food/exercise regimen? Even if his family didn't have insurance ('cause I know y'all just waiting to make excuses for this BS) his parents could have easily....y'know, parented......and helped their son with his weight and then later, his drug problem. I don't even know where to start with this. It simply didn't have to happen. It did not have to end this way.

I feel like some of you are neglecting your kids, just because you actually want to play out some drama. If it's not you, don't worry about it. But if it is you, get help - for you and your child.

Who resorts to heroin for weight loss? I have struggled with my weight ever since I can remember, but you damn well better be sure my parents would rather have killed me than watching me shoot heroin to lose weight.

Who are these people trying to defend him and saying his parents were helpless? Were they deaf dumb and blind?

They failed on so many levels. They had so many opportunities to help their son and they just threw up their hands. No excuse. None.

And there you go, bullying people.

[Anonymous]

This "kid" is 28 years old.