Magruder HS Shooting

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure this is a very naive question but why didn’t anyone hear the gunshot? The victim was found in the bathroom not that someone heard the gunshot?

I was wondering the same. The only thing I could think of was that it happened during transition time when it's fairly loud in the hallway. But, IDK. It's a good question.

Schools have very solid walls and doors. A gun shot would sound a lot like slamming a door in your house outside and far from the bathroom. Double so if you are in classroom with thick walls. I didn't hear it all in the building. None of my students did.
-Magruder teacher.

+1 One shot would not have gotten much attention. People would have attributed the noise to normal causes. If the gun was up against the victim, the sound would have been muffled.

I’m not understanding though why the initial 911 call didn’t relay a sense of urgency. Someone needs to release the 911 tape that the school made. Did the security guard call 911 or did he radio the front office and they called 911? It seemed like EMS and the police were caught off guard initially at the severity of the incident.

They didn't know it was a gum shot. They thought he was stabbed, they thought it was self inflicted?!?! They thought the shooter left. The whole thing is a massive failure all around. It is only by sheer luck and the work of the school nurse (which I hear some schools don't have!?@?!) That there wasn't 1 fatality and more.

IMO, their inability to assess the situation is another reason why SROs are needed. Admins aren't cops, nor should they be. They cannot asses threat and incident levels like cops can.

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Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/magruder-high-school-derwood-shooting-student-bathroom-montgomery-county-public-schools-lockdown-police-officers-mcknight

This timeline is extremely disturbing.

Why? They had to identify the shooter and extract him from a classroom without raising his suspicion or making him feel cornered because they knew he had a gun somewhere. No wonder it took a long time.

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Anonymous wrote:Shout out to the School Nurse. Read Ehrlich’s tweet sounds like she was great at her job as school first responder.

Agreed. I'm not a fan of Elrich, but his response was what I'd expect from a leader. McKnight's was not -- she didn't even acknowledge the nurse.

So you are saying you approve of how the white man handled this but you don’t like how the black man and woman handled it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm coming from the third world country with hight crime rates and I'm telling you - GUNS culture is a huge problem in the US. And it will be worse.

Thank you. That’s what I said, too. But these crazy parents are busy talking about a woman wearing pink (who cares) to a press conference while a man wore a pink tie (no parents minded that).

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

I'd rather have my kid interact with an SRO than be in a school where "hugging it out" is used on violent students who are the size of adults.

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

I feel really sad that this officer who spent a decade working hard to make her community safer was kicked out of her position and basically told by the community that they thought her work was racist and barmful to kids. Who do we want to protect us if we can’t recognize the ones doing good work?

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Anonymous wrote:

Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

We don’t have SROs because of the county council and county exec, not because of any valid reason. As for reflecting, I have… on my decade of experience working directly with SROs. I’ve seen them do a ton of good and I’ve seen students come back later and thank them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.

Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it too soon to discuss the fact that monifa grabbed her pink coat with the leapord print collar instead of something more appropriate for the situation

With the matching pink mask. She was an hour late which delayed the kids being released but that delay was important, because she had to look good for cameras.

You can’t be serious, right?

I wish I was. She was an hour late for the press conference photo op and purposefully delayed the release of the kids but she definitely had time to make sure that that her pink mask matched her pink coat with the animal print collar. It provides a small window into what her priorities are and it’s clearly not the kids.

Sounds like a conspiracy. Hmmm

The guy next to her is wearing a pink tie so I hope you’re outraged at his choice as well.

I am. Screw that guy. What's his name?

John McCarthy the States Attorney

They both looked nice in pink.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

Well I want my kid interacting with them.
Why is what you want more important that what I want?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

Define "interacting." Your kid doesn't have to talk to the SRO if s/he doesn't want to.

[Anonymous]

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.

Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.

Because it's not true. I am certain if the county did a validated survey of a representative sample of the kids in MCPS, you would find WIDE support for SROs. Just because a few loud advocate kids were plastered all over the place doesn't mean they speak for the majority of kids. Not at all. Look at Prince George's County. They did a real survey. 82% of the students, parents, teachers, and staff thought having SROs was important or very important to having a safe learning environment.

82%. And that is exactly why Montgomery County didn't do a valid survey. They don't want you to know the truth.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58#:~:text=This%20year%2C%20PGCPS%20CEO%20Dr,safe%20teaching%20and%20learning%20environment.

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

we don't have SROs anymore in MCPS because of uber progressives and Elrich. Most Principals, and probably teachers, want SROs.

Elrich doesn't walk the school halls and interact with the kids everyday. When there is a violent students at school, Elrich is not the one responsible. The Principals are, and they want SROs, who were just one tools in the shed that could be used to de-escalate a situation in school.

What he did is the height of irresponsibility. It's like at work when the higher ups make decisions that are politically motivated, and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout and cleanup the mess. It's a crap situation for those with "boots on the ground". They hamstrung the Principals -- take away SROs but at the same time figure out a way to not have to suspend URM kids. How does Elrich propose that to happen? Oh, he doesn't know.. he's not a school administrator? No, he's not, so he shouldn't be making those kidns of decisions. Leave it to the Principals who lead the schools and who are the ones responsible for the kids' safety.

Elrich needs to keep his nose out of the schools.

Yes, I understand that you literally cannot comprehend why parents of “URM kids”—who are close to the majority in MoCo—don’t want police in schools. You can keep re-showing how you don’t understand if you want to.

Then how do you propose schools deal with violent students, some who are the size of adults? Why don't you go volunteer and give those kids a hug and make it better?

You keep saying "we don't want SROs", but you provide zero solutions. You are what we call in the work place a serial complainer and not a problem solver. You don't care about anyone else except your kid. Well, guess what.. I don't care about your kid, I care about mine.

But, you are correct.. Elrich does what the uber progressives say. We all know this.

If the uber progressives are so woke and intelligent, why don't they figure out how to keep violence out of our schools, violence that is typically, but not always, committed by URM kids. You want SROs out for URM kids? Fine. Then solve the violence that URM kids commit.