NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what his real motive in this was? Did he really think he was doing the right thing and "teaching her a lesson?"

Did he hope to get accolades from famous celebrities/activists for this? Have any influential people commented on this?

I think that’s a given. He probably thought he’d be the toast of the Hollywood woke crowd. Don’t know if he is or not, but somehow I doubt it. I would hope that even the ultra-woke recognize that he went way overboard and acted maliciously.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the level of anger being exposed on this thread. People really identify with this young woman and the shades of grey at using the N word have been totally overlooked in the need to empathize with her. I think this is where systemic racism is at it's worst. Historically white people have had the most power and the ability to empathize with only people who look like them continues to have major consequences for people who don't.

She wasn't even addressing anyone in particular. She said all of 4 words and not in an angry way. I can't detect any anger in her words. The 3 second clip was when she was 15. Do you think someone should be attacked and told to leave college for this? It's just not worthy of the reaction this guy had. He's trying to retaliate in a very poor way.

Exactly. You would be seeing a different response were the facts different - specifically, were she not 15 when this stupid action happened and/or had she hurled the word at someone in an intentionally hurtful way. Plenty of people don't condone use of the N word slur, but can see that this kid did a dumb thing w/o ill intent at all and is facing an insanely disproportionate consequence for something stupid she did 3 years ago & that she already apologized for long before this turned into a NYT piece.

This. Context matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the level of anger being exposed on this thread. People really identify with this young woman and the shades of grey at using the N word have been totally overlooked in the need to empathize with her. I think this is where systemic racism is at it's worst. Historically white people have had the most power and the ability to empathize with only people who look like them continues to have major consequences for people who don't.

She wasn't even addressing anyone in particular. She said all of 4 words and not in an angry way. I can't detect any anger in her words. The 3 second clip was when she was 15. Do you think someone should be attacked and told to leave college for this? It's just not worthy of the reaction this guy had. He's trying to retaliate in a very poor way.

It doesn't matter if she wasn't addressing anyone. It is a word she should not have said. I am glad she apologized for what she did but there are consequences for our actions. I find the idealization and identification with this girl disproportionate and think it is due at least in part to the inability to put yourself in this young man's shoes because he is black. Again that is why systemic racisms is so awful. The inability to put yourself in a person's shoes who doesn't look like you. If you have no power then it's not so bad, when you have all the power it's awful what this lack of empathy inflicts on people with less power

Is this a joke? As another poster said, the only vindictive, malicious person in this story is Jimmy. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:He's not even black. And she did put herself in someone else's shoes and apologize years earlier. The person who was not able to put himself in someone else's shoes was Jimmy. Jimmy's family is very wealthy and even uses the slurs themselves. So why hold someone else to a higher standard?

A Black teen boy can’t put himself in the shoes of a ... rich white teenage girl who casually uses racial slurs? Why SHOULD he? He clearly has a lot of internalized anger and a complex racial identity because of his dad bit so many of you act like she did NOTHING wrong. A white student in my class once called the one Black girl in that class a slave. I LET HIM HAVE IT, made him apologize and then called his mom who didn’t care at all. Makes sense now. It’s endemic here. and my kids have to go to school with your kids!who you’re teaching this is completely okay. They’re ENTITLED to use the n word because nothing is off limits for white kids. And you all seriously think what she did is fine or if not fine, excusable and someone else’s fault and if not that you just hate Jimmy more.

Did Mimi direct the n-word at anyone? No. Should she have used that word? Absolutely not - and not one person has argued otherwise. Get back to us when your 15 yr. old does something stupid so we can castigate him or her and make sure their boneheaded mistake is made public.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what? I empathize more strongly with the young man. I can only imagine what it is like being in a minority that is treated this way, watching your classmates use this language, and seeing no consequences for the people doing it. He was hurt and guess what, hurt and angry people lash out. Y’all are just mad at him because his gambit worked and for once a white student DID have to contend with the consequences of her actions. I hope this is a lesson to other white kids that what you put on the internet will follow you.

Do you hope it’s a lesson for black kids, too? Good luck with your own kids and their inevitable mistakes.

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This is sad for both kids; both will find this following them through their lives.

Do Jimmy Galligan's parents condone what he did? The fact that they're not in the story expressing support is pretty telling.

Personally, I wouldn't want my teenage son saving a video to punish his former friend for the sins of Heritage High School's racists. And I sure as heck wouldn't want my daughter anywhere near someone like Jimmy.

THIS. I’d be mortified if my kid uttered the n-word - and equally mortified if my kid decided to publicly shame a classmate.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what? I empathize more strongly with the young man. I can only imagine what it is like being in a minority that is treated this way, watching your classmates use this language, and seeing no consequences for the people doing it. He was hurt and guess what, hurt and angry people lash out. Y’all are just mad at him because his gambit worked and for once a white student DID have to contend with the consequences of her actions. I hope this is a lesson to other white kids that what you put on the internet will follow you.

That’s how I feel. She is clearly a proxy for how whiteness has hurt him his whole life. Imagine being Black and growing up in river creek with a bunch of racist White people. That had to be so painful. Nobody empathizes with that though. Only with her. Because they know that could be their daughter but they don’t see anything of themselves or their kids in Jimmy. It’s sad. Her consequences actually were minor. She will be just fine. And it never would have happened had she a) not said it to begin with and b) didn’t front as a BLM as pays this summer when he knew damn well how she really was.

What is your race? Let me guess, you are a self loathing white person and a RACIST.


So any person who sees the situation differently than you is self hating?. This debate is so telling. You identify with this girl because you think she could be you or your daughter. There is no humanity in this half white half black boy in your eyes -who would never be accepted as white by the way. He doesn't look like you so there is no reflection on your part about why he did what he did or any empathy for him. There is something wrong with only being able to identify with people who look like you. Can you see how that is a problem?. Can you see that being in a country where most elected officials, most people who hold positions of power are white and think and feel like you do creates a really difficult world for those who are not?. This is literally why when a white woman goes missing it gets so much media attention, the majority of the country is white and can only identify with a person who looks like them. If you sit on a jury it's easier to vote guilty when a black person is accused because they look like the other and you can't imagine them being your son or brother etc. This thread is systemic racism in real time.

Wow, unhinged in real time ^^^. As much as you want it to, this has nothing to do with Jimmy’s race or appearance and *everything* to do with his utter lack of character. Who could possibly relate to such a conniving, malicious person? This whole story could have been a lot different - and and actual learning experience - had he simply gone directly to her and told her how it affected him to hear her use a slur. But no, he chose the most public, humiliating way to shame her. Oh well. As I’m sure you’d agree, actions have consequences. If he has become a pariah, it’s his own fault.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The NYT makes Leesburg sound like some backwards place. I don’t know whether to lol at the Loudoun Moms who think their community is so posh or be slightly dismayed by New York’s disdain for DC/Nova.

It’s the NYT. Unless you live in NYC, LA, Portland, or Seattle, you are a backwards, unwoke redneck whom they look down upon. Which is why we subscribe to the WSJ instead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know what? I empathize more strongly with the young man. I can only imagine what it is like being in a minority that is treated this way, watching your classmates use this language, and seeing no consequences for the people doing it. He was hurt and guess what, hurt and angry people lash out. Y’all are just mad at him because his gambit worked and for once a white student DID have to contend with the consequences of her actions. I hope this is a lesson to other white kids that what you put on the internet will follow you.

That’s how I feel. She is clearly a proxy for how whiteness has hurt him his whole life. Imagine being Black and growing up in river creek with a bunch of racist White people. That had to be so painful. Nobody empathizes with that though. Only with her. Because they know that could be their daughter but they don’t see anything of themselves or their kids in Jimmy. It’s sad. Her consequences actually were minor. She will be just fine. And it never would have happened had she a) not said it to begin with and b) didn’t front as a BLM as pays this summer when he knew damn well how she really was.

What is your race? Let me guess, you are a self loathing white person and a RACIST.


So any person who sees the situation differently than you is self hating?. This debate is so telling. You identify with this girl because you think she could be you or your daughter. There is no humanity in this half white half black boy in your eyes -who would never be accepted as white by the way. He doesn't look like you so there is no reflection on your part about why he did what he did or any empathy for him. There is something wrong with only being able to identify with people who look like you. Can you see how that is a problem?. Can you see that being in a country where most elected officials, most people who hold positions of power are white and think and feel like you do creates a really difficult world for those who are not?. This is literally why when a white woman goes missing it gets so much media attention, the majority of the country is white and can only identify with a person who looks like them. If you sit on a jury it's easier to vote guilty when a black person is accused because they look like the other and you can't imagine them being your son or brother etc. This thread is systemic racism in real time.

Wow, unhinged in real time ^^^. As much as you want it to, this has nothing to do with Jimmy’s race or appearance and *everything* to do with his utter lack of character. Who could possibly relate to such a conniving, malicious person? This whole story could have been a lot different - and and actual learning experience - had he simply gone directly to her and told her how it affected him to hear her use a slur. But no, he chose the most public, humiliating way to shame her. Oh well. As I’m sure you’d agree, actions have consequences. If he has become a pariah, it’s his own fault.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what? I empathize more strongly with the young man. I can only imagine what it is like being in a minority that is treated this way, watching your classmates use this language, and seeing no consequences for the people doing it. He was hurt and guess what, hurt and angry people lash out. Y’all are just mad at him because his gambit worked and for once a white student DID have to contend with the consequences of her actions. I hope this is a lesson to other white kids that what you put on the internet will follow you.

That’s how I feel. She is clearly a proxy for how whiteness has hurt him his whole life. Imagine being Black and growing up in river creek with a bunch of racist White people. That had to be so painful. Nobody empathizes with that though. Only with her. Because they know that could be their daughter but they don’t see anything of themselves or their kids in Jimmy. It’s sad. Her consequences actually were minor. She will be just fine. And it never would have happened had she a) not said it to begin with and b) didn’t front as a BLM as pays this summer when he knew damn well how she really was.

What is your race? Let me guess, you are a self loathing white person and a RACIST.


So any person who sees the situation differently than you is self hating?. This debate is so telling. You identify with this girl because you think she could be you or your daughter. There is no humanity in this half white half black boy in your eyes -who would never be accepted as white by the way. He doesn't look like you so there is no reflection on your part about why he did what he did or any empathy for him. There is something wrong with only being able to identify with people who look like you. Can you see how that is a problem?. Can you see that being in a country where most elected officials, most people who hold positions of power are white and think and feel like you do creates a really difficult world for those who are not?. This is literally why when a white woman goes missing it gets so much media attention, the majority of the country is white and can only identify with a person who looks like them. If you sit on a jury it's easier to vote guilty when a black person is accused because they look like the other and you can't imagine them being your son or brother etc. This thread is systemic racism in real time.

Wow, unhinged in real time ^^^. As much as you want it to, this has nothing to do with Jimmy’s race or appearance and *everything* to do with his utter lack of character. Who could possibly relate to such a conniving, malicious person? This whole story could have been a lot different - and and actual learning experience - had he simply gone directly to her and told her how it affected him to hear her use a slur. But no, he chose the most public, humiliating way to shame her. Oh well. As I’m sure you’d agree, actions have consequences. If he has become a pariah, it’s his own fault.
DP

The name calling, I can literally hear you screaming through your post. Are you this girl’s mom?. If not why are you so hype?. She should not have said the word and he should not have outed her. Clearly this young man felt that the racial slurs being used in his school were not being addressed and unfortunately decided to take matters into his own hands. I feel bad for both of them. That’s the point, I can empathize with both. You can only empathize with the white woman because you identify with her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The NYT makes Leesburg sound like some backwards place. I don’t know whether to lol at the Loudoun Moms who think their community is so posh or be slightly dismayed by New York’s disdain for DC/Nova.

It’s the NYT. Unless you live in NYC, LA, Portland, or Seattle, you are a backwards, unwoke redneck whom they look down upon. Which is why we subscribe to the WSJ instead.

It is a redneck backwoods judging from all these racist comments about Jimmy here and the other ones defending Mimi and her great parents. People in nova want to think they’re progressive and better than others but they’re not. We are Missouri with more degrees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The NYT makes Leesburg sound like some backwards place. I don’t know whether to lol at the Loudoun Moms who think their community is so posh or be slightly dismayed by New York’s disdain for DC/Nova.

It’s the NYT. Unless you live in NYC, LA, Portland, or Seattle, you are a backwards, unwoke redneck whom they look down upon. Which is why we subscribe to the WSJ instead.

It is a redneck backwoods judging from all these racist comments about Jimmy here and the other ones defending Mimi and her great parents. People in nova want to think they’re progressive and better than others but they’re not. We are Missouri with more degrees.

Yep. It’s hilarious to see posters wanting to cancel Jimmy while in the same breath yelling that cancel culture is wrong. But of course it’s only wrong if it effects one of their own, ie Mimi.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NYT makes Leesburg sound like some backwards place. I don’t know whether to lol at the Loudoun Moms who think their community is so posh or be slightly dismayed by New York’s disdain for DC/Nova.

It’s the NYT. Unless you live in NYC, LA, Portland, or Seattle, you are a backwards, unwoke redneck whom they look down upon. Which is why we subscribe to the WSJ instead.

It is a redneck backwoods judging from all these racist comments about Jimmy here and the other ones defending Mimi and her great parents. People in nova want to think they’re progressive and better than others but they’re not. We are Missouri with more degrees.

Yep. It’s hilarious to see posters wanting to cancel Jimmy while in the same breath yelling that cancel culture is wrong. But of course it’s only wrong if it effects one of their own, ie Mimi.

Yes to them it is wrong to “cancel” (or give a WaPo feature to a kid who just had to withdraw from a single college she never even actually attended) rich white teenage girls who look and behave like their daughters.

It is okay to cancel the Black teenage boy who is “mean.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The NYT makes Leesburg sound like some backwards place. I don’t know whether to lol at the Loudoun Moms who think their community is so posh or be slightly dismayed by New York’s disdain for DC/Nova.

It’s the NYT. Unless you live in NYC, LA, Portland, or Seattle, you are a backwards, unwoke redneck whom they look down upon. Which is why we subscribe to the WSJ instead.

It is a redneck backwoods judging from all these racist comments about Jimmy here and the other ones defending Mimi and her great parents. People in nova want to think they’re progressive and better than others but they’re not. We are Missouri with more degrees.

Yep. It’s hilarious to see posters wanting to cancel Jimmy while in the same breath yelling that cancel culture is wrong. But of course it’s only wrong if it effects one of their own, ie Mimi.

Yes to them it is wrong to “cancel” (or give a WaPo feature to a kid who just had to withdraw from a single college she never even actually attended) rich white teenage girls who look and behave like their daughters.

It is okay to cancel the Black teenage boy who is “mean.”

I don’t think either of these young idiots should be cancelled.

[Anonymous]

I don’t see in this thread an effort to cancel Jimmy. No one is pressuring his college to try to get him kicked out. People have said that future employers may individually make a decision not to hire him over this but people are not trying to wage a campaign to get companies to fire him or refuse to ever hire him. That’s cancelling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t see in this thread an effort to cancel Jimmy. No one is pressuring his college to try to get him kicked out. People have said that future employers may individually make a decision not to hire him over this but people are not trying to wage a campaign to get companies to fire him or refuse to ever hire him. That’s cancelling.

Go back and read all the comments gleefully predicting he will never be hired, this will follow and tarnish his name and reputation forever, etc.