NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fortunately this woman was taught a painful lesson while young and now has the rest of her life to make amends.

I can’t support the consequence (losing college admission) for her behavior at age 15 anymore than I can support trying juveniles as adults for crimes. The adolescent brain is undergoing so many changes and their ability to make appropriate judgments is inconsistent at best.

I would have liked to hear what Mr. Galligan’s mother thinks of what he did. I wonder why she wasn’t part of the story.

Nope she got what she deserved. Sometimes life lessons are hard but she would have been a pariah on campus anyway. Also it’s in poor taste to blame the person drawing attention to another’s racism.

So is there an age would it not be appropriate to hold someone accountable for saying the n-word by taking away their college admission? I work in an elementary schools. Kids as young as 4th grade have phones and access to social media. If there were a 3-second video of a student saying the n-word at 14, would that be grounds to withdraw a college admission? What about age 13? 12? 10? Would what happened to the cheerleader student be deserved if she had been 14 or 12 or 10 when she made the comment?

[Anonymous]

The boy probably thought turning the screws on this girl for something she’d done three years ago would make him some type of social media hero who’d get into Yale for his valor, but instead here he is despised by a lot of his former classmates and at Vanguard University, which no one has ever heard of. Hope he still thinks he made the right decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The boy probably thought turning the screws on this girl for something she’d done three years ago would make him some type of social media hero who’d get into Yale for his valor, but instead here he is despised by a lot of his former classmates and at Vanguard University, which no one has ever heard of. Hope he still thinks he made the right decision.

Wow! Blame the minority for calling out a racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fortunately this woman was taught a painful lesson while young and now has the rest of her life to make amends.

I can’t support the consequence (losing college admission) for her behavior at age 15 anymore than I can support trying juveniles as adults for crimes. The adolescent brain is undergoing so many changes and their ability to make appropriate judgments is inconsistent at best.

I would have liked to hear what Mr. Galligan’s mother thinks of what he did. I wonder why she wasn’t part of the story.

Nope she got what she deserved. Sometimes life lessons are hard but she would have been a pariah on campus anyway. Also it’s in poor taste to blame the person drawing attention to another’s racism.

So is there an age would it not be appropriate to hold someone accountable for saying the n-word by taking away their college admission? I work in an elementary schools. Kids as young as 4th grade have phones and access to social media. If there were a 3-second video of a student saying the n-word at 14, would that be grounds to withdraw a college admission? What about age 13? 12? 10? Would what happened to the cheerleader student be deserved if she had been 14 or 12 or 10 when she made the comment?

Definitely! Give her spot to a deserving minority who didn’t grow up with her racial and economic privilege.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The boy probably thought turning the screws on this girl for something she’d done three years ago would make him some type of social media hero who’d get into Yale for his valor, but instead here he is despised by a lot of his former classmates and at Vanguard University, which no one has ever heard of. Hope he still thinks he made the right decision.

Wow! Blame the minority for calling out a racist.

I’m a POC. There’s a difference between calling someone out and holding onto stuff to find the perfect opportunity to out someone. He’s not that courageous. If it was about doing the right thing, he would have dealt with it right away. It was a crappy move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The boy probably thought turning the screws on this girl for something she’d done three years ago would make him some type of social media hero who’d get into Yale for his valor, but instead here he is despised by a lot of his former classmates and at Vanguard University, which no one has ever heard of. Hope he still thinks he made the right decision.

Wow! Blame the minority for calling out a racist.

I’m a POC. There’s a difference between calling someone out and holding onto stuff to find the perfect opportunity to out someone. He’s not that courageous. If it was about doing the right thing, he would have dealt with it right away. It was a crappy move.

It was deserved. Now people want to paint Mimi as the victim. Let’s start a crowd fund for her because she’s been hurt so deeply. Pleeease. Until people learn actions have consequences nothing will improve. Again learning lessons is hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The boy probably thought turning the screws on this girl for something she’d done three years ago would make him some type of social media hero who’d get into Yale for his valor, but instead here he is despised by a lot of his former classmates and at Vanguard University, which no one has ever heard of. Hope he still thinks he made the right decision.

Wow! Blame the minority for calling out a racist.

I’m a POC. There’s a difference between calling someone out and holding onto stuff to find the perfect opportunity to out someone. He’s not that courageous. If it was about doing the right thing, he would have dealt with it right away. It was a crappy move.

+1

[Anonymous]

Every other story on the NYT front page is about racism. They know it sells...cha ching!

[Anonymous]

"In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America. Hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart, and devours the soul." President Trump 8/5/19

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every other story on the NYT front page is about racism. They know it sells...cha ching!

I dunno. Maybe if we really dealt with it in this country, maybe there wouldn’t be any stories. While there is a significant segment of our population that doesn’t believe there’s such a thing as systemic racism and white kids in 2020 who think it’s okay to drop the n-word as a put down towards Black classmates, there will be plenty of stories to print.

How do you propose we address racism, PP? Not talk about it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html

When racism happens is bad. When you take action years later I’m reminded of the MeToo movement - this time it’s on an opposite fashion.

Women wait until they’re rich and “successful’ to denounce alleged acts of violence.
Now, this boy waited until the girl was working her way to success and destroyed her immediate future.

In a pure exhibition of cancel culture. Idk if I should clap or cry or laugh.

+1

The cancel culture is real. Everyone jumps on the bandwagon to take down the latest craze.

Real racism is horrible and is definitely a problem in this country. Is this it? Maybe. But I’m not sure.

I do think it is hypocritical for rap music makers to sell their music and image using all sorts of racial slurs and then for people to be up in arms when young people try to act like them.

I have sat my kids down and had talks to them about how they cannot use words they hear their friends (who are black) use. It’s hard for them to understand why they can use the words and it not mean anything bad, but if they were to use them, it would be bad. I explain it to them, but they are so far removed from it, they still think it’s stupid.

[Anonymous]

There has been increasing recognition that the juvenile mind is not fully formed and allowances for that must be made. A sincere apology used to be just that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html

When racism happens is bad. When you take action years later I’m reminded of the MeToo movement - this time it’s on an opposite fashion.

Women wait until they’re rich and “successful’ to denounce alleged acts of violence.
Now, this boy waited until the girl was working her way to success and destroyed her immediate future.

In a pure exhibition of cancel culture. Idk if I should clap or cry or laugh.

+1

The cancel culture is real. Everyone jumps on the bandwagon to take down the latest craze.

Real racism is horrible and is definitely a problem in this country. Is this it? Maybe. But I’m not sure.

I do think it is hypocritical for rap music makers to sell their music and image using all sorts of racial slurs and then for people to be up in arms when young people try to act like them.

I have sat my kids down and had talks to them about how they cannot use words they hear their friends (who are black) use. It’s hard for them to understand why they can use the words and it not mean anything bad, but if they were to use them, it would be bad. I explain it to them, but they are so far removed from it, they still think it’s stupid.

Cancel culture is a made up trope of the right that they use to get everyone riled up. Cancel culture doesn’t exist. It’s called consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html

When racism happens is bad. When you take action years later I’m reminded of the MeToo movement - this time it’s on an opposite fashion.

Women wait until they’re rich and “successful’ to denounce alleged acts of violence.
Now, this boy waited until the girl was working her way to success and destroyed her immediate future.

In a pure exhibition of cancel culture. Idk if I should clap or cry or laugh.

+1

The cancel culture is real. Everyone jumps on the bandwagon to take down the latest craze.

Real racism is horrible and is definitely a problem in this country. Is this it? Maybe. But I’m not sure.

I do think it is hypocritical for rap music makers to sell their music and image using all sorts of racial slurs and then for people to be up in arms when young people try to act like them.

I have sat my kids down and had talks to them about how they cannot use words they hear their friends (who are black) use. It’s hard for them to understand why they can use the words and it not mean anything bad, but if they were to use them, it would be bad. I explain it to them, but they are so far removed from it, they still think it’s stupid.

If you are bi-racial can you use the N word?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As long as the Ochs and the Sulzburgers can keep their many millions they don’t care how much racial animus they stir up among others. You can tell who profits from these narratives and which people never get their stories told by NYT “journalists.”

Psst...your anti-Semitism is showing.