NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

Anonymous
What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html


When racism happens is bad. When you take action years later I’m reminded of the MeToo movement - this time it’s on an opposite fashion.

Women wait until they’re rich and “successful’ to denounce alleged acts of violence.
Now, this boy waited until the girl was working her way to success and destroyed her immediate future.

In a pure exhibition of cancel culture. Idk if I should clap or cry or laugh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html


LCPS is FCPS of 25 years ago. Move further out, live with more white people. So, you live that insulated, kids (unchecked) act like this. Lack of diversity doesn't inoculate a community from racism, just let people live without real consequence. Until that kid blew up her spot. Small prices compared to the number of POC that have been derailed by their public school experiences.
Anonymous
Why is anyone surprised by this? Woodgrove had the big gun rights rally. There were lots of local teens and kids in the trump parades that passed through Western Loudoun weekly leading up the election.

My family is "old" Loudoun county for many generations. Yes, it's changing but there's still a pretty racist element.

And even the "new" people aren't exactly changing the status quo or challenging because most of the new people moving out there are white people who lived in DC for a while but are originally from like, rural PA or the South.
Anonymous
Fortunately this woman was taught a painful lesson while young and now has the rest of her life to make amends.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html


LCPS is FCPS of 25 years ago. Move further out, live with more white people. So, you live that insulated, kids (unchecked) act like this. Lack of diversity doesn't inoculate a community from racism, just let people live without real consequence. Until that kid blew up her spot. Small prices compared to the number of POC that have been derailed by their public school experiences.

Do you honestly think kids don’t do this kind of stuff in FCPS? How quickly you forget about the disastrous rollout of online learning in April where kids yelled/wrote/sung the n-word in classes. It happened to my son in one of his classes and we can only assume he was targeted given he was the only Black student in the class.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html


LCPS is FCPS of 25 years ago. Move further out, live with more white people. So, you live that insulated, kids (unchecked) act like this. Lack of diversity doesn't inoculate a community from racism, just let people live without real consequence. Until that kid blew up her spot. Small prices compared to the number of POC that have been derailed by their public school experiences.

Do you honestly think kids don’t do this kind of stuff in FCPS? How quickly you forget about the disastrous rollout of online learning in April where kids yelled/wrote/sung the n-word in classes. It happened to my son in one of his classes and we can only assume he was targeted given he was the only Black student in the class.


It happens in FCPS but it definitely is worse in Loudoun because LCPS parents especially as you get farther out in Loudoun tend to be more likely to be okay with it. I grew up in Loudoun as the child of a LCPS administrator.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html


LCPS is FCPS of 25 years ago. Move further out, live with more white people. So, you live that insulated, kids (unchecked) act like this. Lack of diversity doesn't inoculate a community from racism, just let people live without real consequence. Until that kid blew up her spot. Small prices compared to the number of POC that have been derailed by their public school experiences.

Do you honestly think kids don’t do this kind of stuff in FCPS? How quickly you forget about the disastrous rollout of online learning in April where kids yelled/wrote/sung the n-word in classes. It happened to my son in one of his classes and we can only assume he was targeted given he was the only Black student in the class.


It happens in FCPS but it definitely is worse in Loudoun because LCPS parents especially as you get farther out in Loudoun tend to be more likely to be okay with it. I grew up in Loudoun as the child of a LCPS administrator.

Ok? I grew up in LCPS am Black and now have two children in FCPS. FCPS is no better when it comes to this type of stuff. Before the pandemic, my son couldn’t do a week without hearing the n-word spoken by his fellow students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Fortunately this woman was taught a painful lesson while young and now has the rest of her life to make amends.

Yep. Tough lesson to learn but it was important. Actions have consequences and it’s important for other kids to learn from her behavior.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Fortunately this woman was taught a painful lesson while young and now has the rest of her life to make amends.


I can’t support the consequence (losing college admission) for her behavior at age 15 anymore than I can support trying juveniles as adults for crimes. The adolescent brain is undergoing so many changes and their ability to make appropriate judgments is inconsistent at best.

I would have liked to hear what Mr. Galligan’s mother thinks of what he did. I wonder why she wasn’t part of the story.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html


LCPS is FCPS of 25 years ago. Move further out, live with more white people. So, you live that insulated, kids (unchecked) act like this. Lack of diversity doesn't inoculate a community from racism, just let people live without real consequence. Until that kid blew up her spot. Small prices compared to the number of POC that have been derailed by their public school experiences.

Do you honestly think kids don’t do this kind of stuff in FCPS? How quickly you forget about the disastrous rollout of online learning in April where kids yelled/wrote/sung the n-word in classes. It happened to my son in one of his classes and we can only assume he was targeted given he was the only Black student in the class.


It happens in FCPS but it definitely is worse in Loudoun because LCPS parents especially as you get farther out in Loudoun tend to be more likely to be okay with it. I grew up in Loudoun as the child of a LCPS administrator.

Ok? I grew up in LCPS am Black and now have two children in FCPS. FCPS is no better when it comes to this type of stuff. Before the pandemic, my son couldn’t do a week without hearing the n-word spoken by his fellow students.


I'm 40 and grew up in LCPS. When I was growing up, my town still had a "black part of town." Many parents of kids i grew up with used words like "colored" at home to describe black people and they forbid their kids from ever going to the 'black part of town."
Anonymous
PP here. Oh, a lot of the parents called it the "colored part of town" not the "black part of town."
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Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html


LCPS is FCPS of 25 years ago. Move further out, live with more white people. So, you live that insulated, kids (unchecked) act like this. Lack of diversity doesn't inoculate a community from racism, just let people live without real consequence. Until that kid blew up her spot. Small prices compared to the number of POC that have been derailed by their public school experiences.

Do you honestly think kids don’t do this kind of stuff in FCPS? How quickly you forget about the disastrous rollout of online learning in April where kids yelled/wrote/sung the n-word in classes. It happened to my son in one of his classes and we can only assume he was targeted given he was the only Black student in the class.


It happens in FCPS but it definitely is worse in Loudoun because LCPS parents especially as you get farther out in Loudoun tend to be more likely to be okay with it. I grew up in Loudoun as the child of a LCPS administrator.

Ok? I grew up in LCPS am Black and now have two children in FCPS. FCPS is no better when it comes to this type of stuff. Before the pandemic, my son couldn’t do a week without hearing the n-word spoken by his fellow students.


I'm 40 and grew up in LCPS. When I was growing up, my town still had a "black part of town." Many parents of kids i grew up with used words like "colored" at home to describe black people and they forbid their kids from ever going to the 'black part of town."


My mom was a LCPS teacher and she used the word colored to refer to black kids.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Fortunately this woman was taught a painful lesson while young and now has the rest of her life to make amends.


I can’t support the consequence (losing college admission) for her behavior at age 15 anymore than I can support trying juveniles as adults for crimes. The adolescent brain is undergoing so many changes and their ability to make appropriate judgments is inconsistent at best.

I would have liked to hear what Mr. Galligan’s mother thinks of what he did. I wonder why she wasn’t part of the story.

Nope she got what she deserved. Sometimes life lessons are hard but she would have been a pariah on campus anyway. Also it’s in poor taste to blame the person drawing attention to another’s racism.
Anonymous
She made a mistake and should suffer consequences but I’m not a believer in public shaming.
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