NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad I'm not a kid these days. I did some stupid things when I was growing up. Granted not anything racist. But still, I'd hate to have something like a video clip haunting me for the rest of my life.

Yep. Who hasn’t? And one day, the kids of the parents insisting this girl “got what she deserved,” will have something happen with their own kids. And perhaps they won’t be so smug when it happens to them.

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Not to mention, one day someone will film this young man saying or doing something unsavory, and will post it far and wide. Karma.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever you feels about the "appropriateness" of the boy's decision to hold onto the video and strategically release, I will guarantee that white kids in Loudoun County will (1.) think a lot harder before they use the n-word and (2.) never put it on social media.

She became the scapegoat in order for the rest of the white community in Loudoun to have a wake-up call. In that sense - mission accomplished.

The NYT's story left out so much historical context about Loudoun County that I think would better ground the incident. There's a looooooooooong history in Loudoun of opposition to desegregation, support for the KKK, etc.

It is unfortunate that the young lady is essentially a scapegoat, but sometimes, life isn’t fair.

Sometimes you do something wrong and the anvil comes for you. That’s life. How many young black men have spent decades in prison because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time? And they don’t get 24 pages of hand-wringing from white people.

OMG. Now you’re comparing a 15 yr. old who uttered the n-word in a three second private video to adults who have been arrested for crimes? PLEASE. Get a grip on reality.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She made a mistake and should suffer consequences but I’m not a believer in public shaming.

+1
Really can’t stand the lynch mob mentality of social media.

Social media is just the public square of this century. It's where we debate....and where we have digital "stockades" to enforce social norms.

We haven't evolved all that much from our ancestors who forced adultresses/single mothers to wear scarlet letters, put criminals in public stockades in order to set an example for the town, tar & feathering, etc.

Except, these days, we do it to ourselves by posting dumb sh#t on social media for the entire world to see. Our own fat fingers and big mouths get us into trouble and we can go viral.

If you need to "work something out," get a therapist who is bound by confidentiality laws and rules.

Except she didn’t post her “dumb sh#t” publicly, did she? HE did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are we saying that 15 year olds can’t learn and change?

Well, that is certainly what some of these posters are saying. Of course, only if the 15 yr. old is white and upper-middle class. Now, if she was black - and the child of one of these hypocrites - there would be an abundance of forgiveness. Funny how that works.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe white people still don’t understand why it’s not ok for them to use the word but it’s ok for black people. You really, really don’t see the difference?

No, I don't. I don't use slang words for my friends like cracker that other people find offensive. If you think other people shouldn't use it, don't use it yourself. Set an example. It's that simple.

So... you get to decide that other people need to “set an example?”

DP. Wow, you like to argue, don’t you? You simply can’t/won’t be an adult and admit that NO ONE should use the n-word.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve read that a full scholarship has now been arranged for the girl at another university, taking her remorse into account.

Jimmy will be lucky if he gets a gig playing Goofy or Pluto at Disney Land in full costume. A degree from Vanguard University isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.

Not surprised. She was clearly the victim. Poor girl. Life has been hard for her.

Aww, poor Jimmy. I imagine he thought he could write an essay about how righteous and woke he was by publicly shaming her, and that HYP would come calling. How disappointing.

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Anonymous wrote:I really like this comment on the article from the NYT piece.

I was the target of anti-black racial slurs as one of the only black kids in my nearly all-white high school in the 90’s. I wouldn’t wish my experiences on anyone, but I still think it serves no purpose to premeditatedly ruin a single kid’s future over isolated adolescent behavior. Particularly because in her case, her sin was a moment of ignorance and insensitivity - something all kids are guilt of - rather than intentional malice. She was flippantly and ignorantly mimicking the chatter of popular music and culture, not actually using the slur on someone. This was not truly handled as a useful teaching moment. It reflects a descent into a new puritanism. As evidence, other bad and anti-social behavior kids and young adults do - including outright criminal behavior (look up Justin Bieber or Donny Wahlberg) - does not ignite the entire social media mob against them. This all could have been done in private, but because the intent was to shame, brand, and destroy, the kid who posted deliberately waited for the most damaging time, and after knowing where she was going to college, to do this. I think one day he’ll regret acting out this way. And I think one day we’ll look at targets of the social network mob the way we look at Hester Prynne in a Scarlett Letter. We now think of the social opprobrium that went with adultery as ridiculous, but any form of social dynamic that centers around this sort of shaming and lifelong public branding is just as barbaric.

Wow. Bravo to whomever wrote this. Perfectly stated.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe white people still don’t understand why it’s not ok for them to use the word but it’s ok for black people. You really, really don’t see the difference?

No, I don't. I don't use slang words for my friends like cracker that other people find offensive. If you think other people shouldn't use it, don't use it yourself. Set an example. It's that simple.

So... you get to decide that other people need to “set an example?”

DP. Wow, you like to argue, don’t you? You simply can’t/won’t be an adult and admit that NO ONE should use the n-word.

+1 Hypocritcal to say white people can’t use it but it’s OK black people can. No one should be using it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe white people still don’t understand why it’s not ok for them to use the word but it’s ok for black people. You really, really don’t see the difference?

No, I don't. I don't use slang words for my friends like cracker that other people find offensive. If you think other people shouldn't use it, don't use it yourself. Set an example. It's that simple.

So... you get to decide that other people need to “set an example?”

DP. Setting examples is what cancel culture is all about. You can’t simultaneously think it’s ok to hold
up individual private citizens for public humiliation and huge repercussions (job loss, etc) for what they say, and then also claim that public figures’ use of offensive language is somehow beyond critique.

EXACTLY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"And wasn’t released until she was in college. Sooooo what age was she “canceled”?"

She was cancelled FOR DOING A THING WHEN SHE WAS 15!

The fact that the cancelling happened a few years later when she was an adult is irrelevant because there was absolutely no allegation in the article that she had done anything in the past 3 years that was racist - it was ENTIRELY about this one dumb thing she sent to her friends when she was 15 years old.

It's entirely likely that she did know that it is a horrible thing to call a black person the N word as a slur, but that she did not see using the term in the context she did (i.e., as interchangable with "you guys" to her friends, not as a slur hurled at someone) as being at all the same thing.

That was wrong but it's not at all like deliberately calling a person the N word as a slur. It's more akin to adults still using "that's retarded" to mean something's dumb without realizing it's become a very loaded word. And that's still setting aside the point that she was just a freshman in high school when this thing happened. Plenty of kids do MUCH worse things and are allowed to learn and move on from them.

+1
Again, it’s unfortunate that we won’t be able to see these people eating their smug words when their own kids inevitably do something stupid as teens and are publicly shamed for it. Oh well.

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Anonymous wrote:"And wasn’t released until she was in college. Sooooo what age was she “canceled”?"

She was cancelled FOR DOING A THING WHEN SHE WAS 15!

The fact that the cancelling happened a few years later when she was an adult is irrelevant because there was absolutely no allegation in the article that she had done anything in the past 3 years that was racist - it was ENTIRELY about this one dumb thing she sent to her friends when she was 15 years old.

It's entirely likely that she did know that it is a horrible thing to call a black person the N word as a slur, but that she did not see using the term in the context she did (i.e., as interchangable with "you guys" to her friends, not as a slur hurled at someone) as being at all the same thing.

That was wrong but it's not at all like deliberately calling a person the N word as a slur. It's more akin to adults still using "that's retarded" to mean something's dumb without realizing it's become a very loaded word. And that's still setting aside the point that she was just a freshman in high school when this thing happened. Plenty of kids do MUCH worse things and are allowed to learn and move on from them.

She will move on. She won’t learn anything but she’ll move on. Are you seriously trying to act like her life is over? She is white girl named Mimi. She will be absolutely fine. She’ll probably become the next Tomi lahren. And by the comments here, she’ll have plenty of support.

Well, Joy Reid has certainly had success in her career, even after her grossly homophobic tweets were made public. Seems the black community was happy to forgive her for those “lapses.” Do you think she learned anything?
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are we saying that 15 year olds can’t learn and change?

Well, that is certainly what some of these posters are saying. Of course, only if the 15 yr. old is white and upper-middle class. Now, if she was black - and the child of one of these hypocrites - there would be an abundance of forgiveness. Funny how that works.

You are the only one obsessed with race you SICKO. I'm sure that all of your complaining and negativity has caused you to miss out on numerous opportunities in life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"She won’t learn anything but she’ll move on."

What in the world makes you say that?

The article mentioned she had posted over the summer in support of BLM. The article cited no other example of her being a racist aside from this one 3 sec clip when she was 15 years old (3 years ago) where she inappropriately & jokingly used a term she should not have. There is nothing in that article to suggest that she's an unrepentant racist at the now ripe old age of 18. She might be - but there's nothing in what's been reported so far that suggests that information.

You just want her to be terrible to make you feel better for wishing someone who's barely out of HS ill over an unintentional screwup when she was 15.

This thread alone makes it clear that most white people don’t and won’t get it. She’ll blame everyone else but herself.

Oh, just shut up. The tide of public opinion has come down squarely against the behavior of the young man who, at 18, made a deliberate decision to wreck a young woman’s life, and it’s not just white people saying this.

The Galligans raised a turd of a son, and he is the one who now will be held accountable for his poor behavior.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weirdest part of this for me is that Galligan is attending an evangelical Christian college. I wonder if his behavior might violate its code of conduct.

It absolutely should. Instead of privately discussing this with the girl (the article says they used to be friends), he chose to publicly shame and humiliate her. Pretty hypocritical that he would now attend a Christian college.