NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Not surprised, but this wasn't in the article. Hearsay without proof.


Well, I saw it and there were Facebook posts about it in Loudoun when it happened.


what were the other things he was posting about?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Not surprised, but this wasn't in the article. Hearsay without proof.


Well, I saw it and there were Facebook posts about it in Loudoun when it happened.


Similar behavior as in video of them using the word?


Many examples of different things including various derivatives of the word (I.e. dropping the -er in favor of -a, that sort of thing).

Loudoun County still has a lot of racism but I think in most cases it was casual use.

I remember with Mimi, though, he explicitly called out her admission to University of Tennessee and urged people to put pressure on the school.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Not surprised, but this wasn't in the article. Hearsay without proof.


Well, I saw it and there were Facebook posts about it in Loudoun when it happened.


what were the other things he was posting about?


They were compilation videos of myriad examples, most of which were of a similar nature as Mimi. Casual use of the n-word, that sort of thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Umm exactly how many videos of kids using the n word are floating around?

Doesn’t that prove his point that people were using the word casually and the school didn’t care?

And don’t give me this bullshit about using the n word “casually” because they heard it in rap music. I grew up in a lily white place. Rap music has had those lyrics for a long time, and we all knew white people don’t say the n word and kids were not saying it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Seems like that demonstrates his penchant for drama and snitching more than a desire for social justice. I have a hard time believing a committed young social activist then heads off to an anti-LBGTQ university in California.

But, of course, the root cause of this is a popular culture that desensitized young teens of all colors to a historically loaded and discriminatory word. People don’t want to address that because they relish the power dynamics created when certain terms are only off-limits to certain groups. Freedom of expression for me, land mines for thee.


Freedom of expression for me, land mines for thee. Definitely a quote for the times. Thanks.


Not enough 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 in the world

You poor, poor powerless white people! 🤣😂🤣
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Umm exactly how many videos of kids using the n word are floating around?

Doesn’t that prove his point that people were using the word casually and the school didn’t care?

And don’t give me this bullshit about using the n word “casually” because they heard it in rap music. I grew up in a lily white place. Rap music has had those lyrics for a long time, and we all knew white people don’t say the n word and kids were not saying it.


There were at least two or three that he made but Instagram kept taking them down so it’s hard to say. They would be up for about 24 hours before being taken down.

Named kids at about four or five Loudoun high schools as I recall.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Umm exactly how many videos of kids using the n word are floating around?

Doesn’t that prove his point that people were using the word casually and the school didn’t care?

And don’t give me this bullshit about using the n word “casually” because they heard it in rap music. I grew up in a lily white place. Rap music has had those lyrics for a long time, and we all knew white people don’t say the n word and kids were not saying it.


I will absolutely talk about casual use. That’s a description not an excuse. You didn’t see these things. I did. Dumb kids do dumb things but what he did was psychopathic. And you know it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Umm exactly how many videos of kids using the n word are floating around?

Doesn’t that prove his point that people were using the word casually and the school didn’t care?

And don’t give me this bullshit about using the n word “casually” because they heard it in rap music. I grew up in a lily white place. Rap music has had those lyrics for a long time, and we all knew white people don’t say the n word and kids were not saying it.


I will absolutely talk about casual use. That’s a description not an excuse. You didn’t see these things. I did. Dumb kids do dumb things but what he did was psychopathic. And you know it.


Was it really “psychopathic?”

He was obviously angry, and wanted revenge, and was sick of these white kids using the n word. It’s certainly not healthy and I hope his parents get him some counseling or something.

But I’m not sure he’s a psychopath. He seems more like a very angry, immature person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Umm exactly how many videos of kids using the n word are floating around?

Doesn’t that prove his point that people were using the word casually and the school didn’t care?

And don’t give me this bullshit about using the n word “casually” because they heard it in rap music. I grew up in a lily white place. Rap music has had those lyrics for a long time, and we all knew white people don’t say the n word and kids were not saying it.


I will absolutely talk about casual use. That’s a description not an excuse. You didn’t see these things. I did. Dumb kids do dumb things but what he did was psychopathic. And you know it.


Calling it “casual” absolutely sounds like an excuse.

I’m not going to excuse the young man but when White people use the N word it doesn’t mean the same thing. It’s really disingenuous to pretend that teenagers couldn’t possibly understand this and it’s really disingenuous to pretend that it’s not harmful.

My parents are from another country with sectarian issues and there are similar ways that language is used to beat down the minority and the disingenuous excuses here are eerily similar.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Umm exactly how many videos of kids using the n word are floating around?

Doesn’t that prove his point that people were using the word casually and the school didn’t care?

And don’t give me this bullshit about using the n word “casually” because they heard it in rap music. I grew up in a lily white place. Rap music has had those lyrics for a long time, and we all knew white people don’t say the n word and kids were not saying it.


I will absolutely talk about casual use. That’s a description not an excuse. You didn’t see these things. I did. Dumb kids do dumb things but what he did was psychopathic. And you know it.


Calling it “casual” absolutely sounds like an excuse.

I’m not going to excuse the young man but when White people use the N word it doesn’t mean the same thing. It’s really disingenuous to pretend that teenagers couldn’t possibly understand this and it’s really disingenuous to pretend that it’s not harmful.

My parents are from another country with sectarian issues and there are similar ways that language is used to beat down the minority and the disingenuous excuses here are eerily similar.


DP. It's not beating down. It's arguably appropriative, if you need to use a perjorative.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Umm exactly how many videos of kids using the n word are floating around?

Doesn’t that prove his point that people were using the word casually and the school didn’t care?

And don’t give me this bullshit about using the n word “casually” because they heard it in rap music. I grew up in a lily white place. Rap music has had those lyrics for a long time, and we all knew white people don’t say the n word and kids were not saying it.


I will absolutely talk about casual use. That’s a description not an excuse. You didn’t see these things. I did. Dumb kids do dumb things but what he did was psychopathic. And you know it.


Calling it “casual” absolutely sounds like an excuse.

I’m not going to excuse the young man but when White people use the N word it doesn’t mean the same thing. It’s really disingenuous to pretend that teenagers couldn’t possibly understand this and it’s really disingenuous to pretend that it’s not harmful.

My parents are from another country with sectarian issues and there are similar ways that language is used to beat down the minority and the disingenuous excuses here are eerily similar.


There was absolutely nothing in that video to "beat down the minority". If anything it made the minority "cool". In your country, did the minority use the same word casually and for fun?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Umm exactly how many videos of kids using the n word are floating around?

Doesn’t that prove his point that people were using the word casually and the school didn’t care?

And don’t give me this bullshit about using the n word “casually” because they heard it in rap music. I grew up in a lily white place. Rap music has had those lyrics for a long time, and we all knew white people don’t say the n word and kids were not saying it.


I will absolutely talk about casual use. That’s a description not an excuse. You didn’t see these things. I did. Dumb kids do dumb things but what he did was psychopathic. And you know it.


Calling it “casual” absolutely sounds like an excuse.

I’m not going to excuse the young man but when White people use the N word it doesn’t mean the same thing. It’s really disingenuous to pretend that teenagers couldn’t possibly understand this and it’s really disingenuous to pretend that it’s not harmful.

My parents are from another country with sectarian issues and there are similar ways that language is used to beat down the minority and the disingenuous excuses here are eerily similar.


DP. It's not beating down. It's arguably appropriative, if you need to use a perjorative.


See how you are trying to dismantle the harmfulness of the language bit by bit, calling it things like “appropriative?”

Yeah, that’s what the majority does in my parents’ country too.

Not new.
Anonymous
At least he got a conversation going. If he had just talked to his teachers when it happened, the teacher may have had a talk with this girl to not throw around casual racist words (or not) and probably zero progress would have been made for the next generation of students of color at LCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:At least he got a conversation going. If he had just talked to his teachers when it happened, the teacher may have had a talk with this girl to not throw around casual racist words (or not) and probably zero progress would have been made for the next generation of students of color at LCPS.


Are you going to apply your new zero tolerance policy to all kids in LCPS or just to the white ones? And if the latter you might want to make sure the courts are on your side.

If we’re going to ruin the life of a young white girl for using the n-word in a context that was completely devoid of racist intent, we sure as hell better start sanctioning young black men who routinely toss around references to b*tches and hoes as often as not with a specific intent to degrade young women.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One thing that’s critical to remember is Galligan didn’t do this to just one girl. He kept posting videos calling out about a dozen Loudoun County kids for similar behavior. And he was inciting “black Twitter — do your thang”

I remember when this happened. It was at the peak of the BLM protests this summer.

He would post it, it would get taken down. And he would post over and over again.


Umm exactly how many videos of kids using the n word are floating around?

Doesn’t that prove his point that people were using the word casually and the school didn’t care?

And don’t give me this bullshit about using the n word “casually” because they heard it in rap music. I grew up in a lily white place. Rap music has had those lyrics for a long time, and we all knew white people don’t say the n word and kids were not saying it.


I will absolutely talk about casual use. That’s a description not an excuse. You didn’t see these things. I did. Dumb kids do dumb things but what he did was psychopathic. And you know it.


Calling it “casual” absolutely sounds like an excuse.

I’m not going to excuse the young man but when White people use the N word it doesn’t mean the same thing. It’s really disingenuous to pretend that teenagers couldn’t possibly understand this and it’s really disingenuous to pretend that it’s not harmful.

My parents are from another country with sectarian issues and there are similar ways that language is used to beat down the minority and the disingenuous excuses here are eerily similar.


There was absolutely nothing in that video to "beat down the minority". If anything it made the minority "cool". In your country, did the minority use the same word casually and for fun?


Yes, of course. You see excuses in that country like the following:

No one was hurt!
No one meant any harm!
It’s not a bad word!
It’s just a kid!
It’s a valid description!
That’s a mentally ill person who said/did that!
They (the minority) have so much power/money/cultural influence, now they want to police our language too!
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