Magruder HS Shooting

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

Were some kids like screw this mask I’m taking this off. If I have to die today I’m not dying in a KN-95?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

Were some kids like screw this mask I’m taking this off. If I have to die today I’m not dying in a KN-95?

Ok, you are a troll and not a funny or smart one. Go to hell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure this is a very naive question but why didn’t anyone hear the gunshot? The victim was found in the bathroom not that someone heard the gunshot?

I was wondering the same. The only thing I could think of was that it happened during transition time when it's fairly loud in the hallway. But, IDK. It's a good question.

This puzzles me. Even with a silencer, a gunshot is pretty loud and has a distinct sound. How is it that nobody heard it?

There are loud bangs in the bathroom all the time.
In the beginning of the year, kids were ripping sinks off walls and throwing soap dispensers against the wall as some tik tok challenge. Kid kick the stall doors in, etc. These aren't 1 room school houses. These are enormous buildings with 1000-2000 students in them plus staff.

The size of the schools is another issue that people never talk about but is definitely a safety issue and takes away from learning.

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Anonymous wrote:You people are freaking unbelievable. Stop discussing McKnight’s clothes and hair. These conversations are being stoked by MCPS to distract you from the bigger issue of how today was mishandled.

You brought up her hair. What is it about her hair anyway?

Read the thread. Probably 10 pages ago

Her hair has always been like that. It looks fine and normal to me.

Just stop talking about her appearance. This discussion is nauseating.

Nah. It's the cherry on the cake and underscores her total lack of competence. You don't arrive to a sad, scary scene where a child wad shot in pink leopard. You dress as if you are attending a wake. Muted and or dark colors. Nothing flashy or gaudy.
My father always kept a dark jacket and tie in his office Incase an unexpected client came by unannounced. It was a small thing to do but part of how he treated his position. With gravity and responsibility. It's part of "always be prepared."

McKnight is unprepared for her position in every way and it shows right down to the fiber of her clothes.

She wasn't coming from her office.

I hate when we criticize women for their clothes but here it was warranted. The child was in surgery but could have died or might still die though hopefully not. This was a sober scary worst nightmare scenario with kids locked in classrooms still. Dark coat. Don’t make it look like you did your hair first. There should not have been time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Magruder teacher if anyone has any questions. Kids were very good during the lockdown. Staff were pretty positive. All of us are new to this so it is hard to process it. Felt like a normal day. Lockdown was relaxed with most students just on phones. The worst part by far was not being able to use the restroom.

I agree that communication sucked. They wouldnt even tell us any details even though it’s all over the news/Twitter.

Were some kids like screw this mask I’m taking this off. If I have to die today I’m not dying in a KN-95?

Ok, you are a troll and not a funny or smart one. Go to hell.

I was totally serious. If I was on a plane and it started going down I would take off my mask — like why would it matter?! Puts into focus what’s important. But I guess not.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t high schools have security guards?

They do, and there was one at Magruder when this happened. An SRO couldn’t have stopped this, just like the SROs in Parkland couldn’t stop the mass shooting there.

Pretty much. At least in this case only one person was shot and the culprit was caught. Sometimes it's better to have the regular police deal with these sorts of things: the culprits get charged as adults that way.

The SROs in Parkland hid outside the building while shots were fired.

And the SRO in Maryland stopped 2 shooters in less than a minute

[Anonymous]

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t high schools have security guards?

They do, and there was one at Magruder when this happened. An SRO couldn’t have stopped this, just like the SROs in Parkland couldn’t stop the mass shooting there.

I'm sure cops would love to know that they are just security guards. LOL

Also, you keep bringing up the stupid FL SRO. That was one guy. Should we assume that all <insert minority male here> are all criminals and murderers because there are many in jail?

Don’t use logic. It will never beat confirmation bias.

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Anonymous wrote:So glad my kids do online school. If it isn't disruptions to learning, drugs, or bullying, it's violence and the ever present threat of violence. Covid has nothing on mcps.

It has been a peaceful year. But, the same parents demanding in person during a health pandemic are the same checked out parents who are refusing the most basic security precautions and don't care what their kids are doing.

Ah, it's the "school isn't childcare" broken record poster. What you wrote is your opinion, not a fact that can be verified. We get it, you think school should be virtual for now. Maybe keep it in one of the many threads about that topic.

Also just a stupid assumption. Count me as one liberal dem who thinks schools should be open AND the resource officers should never have been removed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure this is a very naive question but why didn’t anyone hear the gunshot? The victim was found in the bathroom not that someone heard the gunshot?

I was wondering the same. The only thing I could think of was that it happened during transition time when it's fairly loud in the hallway. But, IDK. It's a good question.

Schools have very solid walls and doors. A gun shot would sound a lot like slamming a door in your house outside and far from the bathroom. Double so if you are in classroom with thick walls. I didn't hear it all in the building. None of my students did.
-Magruder teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure this is a very naive question but why didn’t anyone hear the gunshot? The victim was found in the bathroom not that someone heard the gunshot?

I was wondering the same. The only thing I could think of was that it happened during transition time when it's fairly loud in the hallway. But, IDK. It's a good question.

Schools have very solid walls and doors. A gun shot would sound a lot like slamming a door in your house outside and far from the bathroom. Double so if you are in classroom with thick walls. I didn't hear it all in the building. None of my students did.
-Magruder teacher.

+1 One shot would not have gotten much attention. People would have attributed the noise to normal causes. If the gun was up against the victim, the sound would have been muffled.

I’m not understanding though why the initial 911 call didn’t relay a sense of urgency. Someone needs to release the 911 tape that the school made. Did the security guard call 911 or did he radio the front office and they called 911? It seemed like EMS and the police were caught off guard initially at the severity of the incident.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m sure this is a very naive question but why didn’t anyone hear the gunshot? The victim was found in the bathroom not that someone heard the gunshot?

I was wondering the same. The only thing I could think of was that it happened during transition time when it's fairly loud in the hallway. But, IDK. It's a good question.

Schools have very solid walls and doors. A gun shot would sound a lot like slamming a door in your house outside and far from the bathroom. Double so if you are in classroom with thick walls. I didn't hear it all in the building. None of my students did.
-Magruder teacher.

+1 One shot would not have gotten much attention. People would have attributed the noise to normal causes. If the gun was up against the victim, the sound would have been muffled.

I’m not understanding though why the initial 911 call didn’t relay a sense of urgency. Someone needs to release the 911 tape that the school made. Did the security guard call 911 or did he radio the front office and they called 911? It seemed like EMS and the police were caught off guard initially at the severity of the incident.

They didn't know it was a gum shot. They thought he was stabbed, they thought it was self inflicted?!?! They thought the shooter left. The whole thing is a massive failure all around. It is only by sheer luck and the work of the school nurse (which I hear some schools don't have!?@?!) That there wasn't 1 fatality and more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why no pictures of the shooter? He’s being charged as an adult.

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Why do you care about seeing his picture?

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Anonymous wrote:Why no pictures of the shooter? He’s being charged as an adult.

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MCPD does not release photos of juvenile offenders even when charged as an adult.