Bafta awards controversy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“ What’s really happening right now is not about Tourette’s. This ain’t about a neurological tic. It’s about protecting whiteness. It’s about what jumps into formation the second whiteness feels exposed. What we’re witnessing is the full machinery revving up. The sympathy. The soft language. The “let’s be fair.” The calls for compassion. The think pieces. The tone policing. The accusations of ableism. All to make sure the spotlight moves off the rot and back onto our reaction.

Because the real crisis, in their eyes, isn’t that the word came out of that white man’s mouth three times in the same night. It’s that we’re refusing to pretend like it didn’t mean anything. That’s what they’re protecting. Not a diagnosis. A narrative. The narrative that racism is rare. That it is located elsewhere in something more extreme. That it is accidental. A glitch. Not a feature and not part of who they are.”

https://newsone.com/6850861/black-people-dont-have-accept-john-davidson-apology/#comments

Nailed it!

Thank you for posting this — and including the link with the full article.

+1

It's funny (but not humorous) how SOME White people continously do a lot of mental gymnastics to tell Black people how they should feel about that hearing that word. How can you in good faith offer empathy to Mr. Davison while also arguing that if black folks are in any way bothered by the outbursts and express being bothered, then they just don't understand the condition enough?

The willingness to completely disregard the feelings of Black people on this situation by thinking that Mr. Davison doesn't owe a bit of accountability is very telling.

He doesn’t need to apologize to a whole community. They weren’t there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

Watch the movie.

The movie is all about how hard this is for HIM. Even the scene where he gets punched in the bar. Well... he threw a drink on a stranger. How do you think that felt for the poor guy who just wanted to have a good time and a random guy douses you with beer for no reason?

The movie wants to convince us that "good, loving" people should embrace his outbursts. Like when he says stuff like "I put c-m in your drink" and they're all "awww! That's adorable!" It's not. I have children and I can't imagine asking my 8 year old daughter to put up with someone yelling "suck my d--k!" to her. That's not civilized. That's disgusting.

Are you for real? Getting doused with beer once in your life is a walk in the park compared to living with this disability. I mean, I can't even with you.

Having a drink thrown on you - completely unprovoked - is assault or battery in most jurisdictions. Are you saying that assault should be excused because the perpetrator a disability?

lol nope

"lol" yep, actually

Honey, there is something wrong with you.

I am curious how far you’d take this. Let’s imagine pedophilia gets classified as a disability. Because, actually, it is a compulsion for many, not unlike coprolalia. Like Tourette’s, there’s something neurologically wrong with these folks. So now a pedophile assaults your child. Do you still maintain the pedophile should not face repercussions because dIsAbILiTy? Child just needs more eMpAThY for the poor, misunderstood pedo?

You're such a moron I can't believe I'm even bothering to respond to you but here goes.

Someone with a disability that causes physical tics who spills a beer on someone isn't getting charged with battery. I don't know what else to tell you. As to your inane tangent, I'm not responding to that.

that’s false because there could be a negligence based crime. Ie someone with a tick picks up a gun and the tick happens and the gun fires. They’ll be prosecuted

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

Watch the movie.

The movie is all about how hard this is for HIM. Even the scene where he gets punched in the bar. Well... he threw a drink on a stranger. How do you think that felt for the poor guy who just wanted to have a good time and a random guy douses you with beer for no reason?

The movie wants to convince us that "good, loving" people should embrace his outbursts. Like when he says stuff like "I put c-m in your drink" and they're all "awww! That's adorable!" It's not. I have children and I can't imagine asking my 8 year old daughter to put up with someone yelling "suck my d--k!" to her. That's not civilized. That's disgusting.

Are you for real? Getting doused with beer once in your life is a walk in the park compared to living with this disability. I mean, I can't even with you.

Having a drink thrown on you - completely unprovoked - is assault or battery in most jurisdictions. Are you saying that assault should be excused because the perpetrator a disability?

lol nope

"lol" yep, actually

Honey, there is something wrong with you.

I am curious how far you’d take this. Let’s imagine pedophilia gets classified as a disability. Because, actually, it is a compulsion for many, not unlike coprolalia. Like Tourette’s, there’s something neurologically wrong with these folks. So now a pedophile assaults your child. Do you still maintain the pedophile should not face repercussions because dIsAbILiTy? Child just needs more eMpAThY for the poor, misunderstood pedo?

You're such a moron I can't believe I'm even bothering to respond to you but here goes.

Someone with a disability that causes physical tics who spills a beer on someone isn't getting charged with battery. I don't know what else to tell you. As to your inane tangent, I'm not responding to that.

that’s false because there could be a negligence based crime. Ie someone with a tick picks up a gun and the tick happens and the gun fires. They’ll be prosecuted

A tick? You are beyond stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

Watch the movie.

The movie is all about how hard this is for HIM. Even the scene where he gets punched in the bar. Well... he threw a drink on a stranger. How do you think that felt for the poor guy who just wanted to have a good time and a random guy douses you with beer for no reason?

The movie wants to convince us that "good, loving" people should embrace his outbursts. Like when he says stuff like "I put c-m in your drink" and they're all "awww! That's adorable!" It's not. I have children and I can't imagine asking my 8 year old daughter to put up with someone yelling "suck my d--k!" to her. That's not civilized. That's disgusting.

Are you for real? Getting doused with beer once in your life is a walk in the park compared to living with this disability. I mean, I can't even with you.

Having a drink thrown on you - completely unprovoked - is assault or battery in most jurisdictions. Are you saying that assault should be excused because the perpetrator a disability?

lol nope

"lol" yep, actually

Honey, there is something wrong with you.

I am curious how far you’d take this. Let’s imagine pedophilia gets classified as a disability. Because, actually, it is a compulsion for many, not unlike coprolalia. Like Tourette’s, there’s something neurologically wrong with these folks. So now a pedophile assaults your child. Do you still maintain the pedophile should not face repercussions because dIsAbILiTy? Child just needs more eMpAThY for the poor, misunderstood pedo?

You're such a moron I can't believe I'm even bothering to respond to you but here goes.

Someone with a disability that causes physical tics who spills a beer on someone isn't getting charged with battery. I don't know what else to tell you. As to your inane tangent, I'm not responding to that.

that’s false because there could be a negligence based crime. Ie someone with a tick picks up a gun and the tick happens and the gun fires. They’ll be prosecuted

A tick? You are beyond stupid.

I’m disabled so it’s hard for me to type. Meant “tic” . You are ableist

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is unfortunate that so much was made of this involuntary moment that it overshadowed all the artists who won awards. People say John took away from the two presenters but the extreme focus by the public on his vocalization has taken away from all the award winners and their moment to shine. Instead of being asked about their art, they are being asked about John's coprolalia which most of them didn't even hear.

To the contrary - people are now more aware that the BAFTA awards even exist. I mean, can you tell me who won even a single BAFTA last year? You can't. So stop creating a false problem.

?? Adrien Brody won Best Actor for the Brutalist last year. A lot of people know this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

Watch the movie.

The movie is all about how hard this is for HIM. Even the scene where he gets punched in the bar. Well... he threw a drink on a stranger. How do you think that felt for the poor guy who just wanted to have a good time and a random guy douses you with beer for no reason?

The movie wants to convince us that "good, loving" people should embrace his outbursts. Like when he says stuff like "I put c-m in your drink" and they're all "awww! That's adorable!" It's not. I have children and I can't imagine asking my 8 year old daughter to put up with someone yelling "suck my d--k!" to her. That's not civilized. That's disgusting.

Are you for real? Getting doused with beer once in your life is a walk in the park compared to living with this disability. I mean, I can't even with you.

Having a drink thrown on you - completely unprovoked - is assault or battery in most jurisdictions. Are you saying that assault should be excused because the perpetrator a disability?

lol nope

"lol" yep, actually

Honey, there is something wrong with you.

I am curious how far you’d take this. Let’s imagine pedophilia gets classified as a disability. Because, actually, it is a compulsion for many, not unlike coprolalia. Like Tourette’s, there’s something neurologically wrong with these folks. So now a pedophile assaults your child. Do you still maintain the pedophile should not face repercussions because dIsAbILiTy? Child just needs more eMpAThY for the poor, misunderstood pedo?

You're such a moron I can't believe I'm even bothering to respond to you but here goes.

Someone with a disability that causes physical tics who spills a beer on someone isn't getting charged with battery. I don't know what else to tell you. As to your inane tangent, I'm not responding to that.

that’s false because there could be a negligence based crime. Ie someone with a tick picks up a gun and the tick happens and the gun fires. They’ll be prosecuted

A tick? You are beyond stupid.

I’m disabled so it’s hard for me to type. Meant “tic” . You are ableist

So am I. How dare you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ What’s really happening right now is not about Tourette’s. This ain’t about a neurological tic. It’s about protecting whiteness. It’s about what jumps into formation the second whiteness feels exposed. What we’re witnessing is the full machinery revving up. The sympathy. The soft language. The “let’s be fair.” The calls for compassion. The think pieces. The tone policing. The accusations of ableism. All to make sure the spotlight moves off the rot and back onto our reaction.

Because the real crisis, in their eyes, isn’t that the word came out of that white man’s mouth three times in the same night. It’s that we’re refusing to pretend like it didn’t mean anything. That’s what they’re protecting. Not a diagnosis. A narrative. The narrative that racism is rare. That it is located elsewhere in something more extreme. That it is accidental. A glitch. Not a feature and not part of who they are.”

https://newsone.com/6850861/black-people-dont-have-accept-john-davidson-apology/#comments

Nailed it!

Thank you for posting this — and including the link with the full article.

+1

It's funny (but not humorous) how SOME White people continously do a lot of mental gymnastics to tell Black people how they should feel about that hearing that word. How can you in good faith offer empathy to Mr. Davison while also arguing that if black folks are in any way bothered by the outbursts and express being bothered, then they just don't understand the condition enough?

The willingness to completely disregard the feelings of Black people on this situation by thinking that Mr. Davison doesn't owe a bit of accountability is very telling.

Are you Black?

Yes, I am. And I also accept that Davidson didn't have any ill intent. I also think his statements fell short of showing the empathy and understanding towards the Black community that he also deserves from this situation.

You're entitled to your feelings. And people are entitled to disagree with you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is unfortunate that so much was made of this involuntary moment that it overshadowed all the artists who won awards. People say John took away from the two presenters but the extreme focus by the public on his vocalization has taken away from all the award winners and their moment to shine. Instead of being asked about their art, they are being asked about John's coprolalia which most of them didn't even hear.

To the contrary - people are now more aware that the BAFTA awards even exist. I mean, can you tell me who won even a single BAFTA last year? You can't. So stop creating a false problem.

Did you just hear about BAFTA in the same year you learned about Tourettes? 2026 is off to a big start for you!

I've known about the BAFTAs for years, thanks. I also have a friend whose daughter has Tourette's so I'm pretty up to speed on how devastating it is for everyone. Hopefully your 2026 contains time for some introspection.

To understand why people like you are ignorant? It’s a lifelong battle to be sure. There are a lot of you.

Ignorant about what? The fact that no one was talking about the BAFTAs for years before this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is unfortunate that so much was made of this involuntary moment that it overshadowed all the artists who won awards. People say John took away from the two presenters but the extreme focus by the public on his vocalization has taken away from all the award winners and their moment to shine. Instead of being asked about their art, they are being asked about John's coprolalia which most of them didn't even hear.

To the contrary - people are now more aware that the BAFTA awards even exist. I mean, can you tell me who won even a single BAFTA last year? You can't. So stop creating a false problem.

Did you just hear about BAFTA in the same year you learned about Tourettes? 2026 is off to a big start for you!

I've known about the BAFTAs for years, thanks. I also have a friend whose daughter has Tourette's so I'm pretty up to speed on how devastating it is for everyone. Hopefully your 2026 contains time for some introspection.

To understand why people like you are ignorant? It’s a lifelong battle to be sure. There are a lot of you.

Ignorant about what? The fact that no one was talking about the BAFTAs for years before this?

They certainly were. It's bizarre you've never heard of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

Watch the movie.

The movie is all about how hard this is for HIM. Even the scene where he gets punched in the bar. Well... he threw a drink on a stranger. How do you think that felt for the poor guy who just wanted to have a good time and a random guy douses you with beer for no reason?

The movie wants to convince us that "good, loving" people should embrace his outbursts. Like when he says stuff like "I put c-m in your drink" and they're all "awww! That's adorable!" It's not. I have children and I can't imagine asking my 8 year old daughter to put up with someone yelling "suck my d--k!" to her. That's not civilized. That's disgusting.

Are you for real? Getting doused with beer once in your life is a walk in the park compared to living with this disability. I mean, I can't even with you.

Having a drink thrown on you - completely unprovoked - is assault or battery in most jurisdictions. Are you saying that assault should be excused because the perpetrator a disability?

lol nope

"lol" yep, actually

Honey, there is something wrong with you.

I am curious how far you’d take this. Let’s imagine pedophilia gets classified as a disability. Because, actually, it is a compulsion for many, not unlike coprolalia. Like Tourette’s, there’s something neurologically wrong with these folks. So now a pedophile assaults your child. Do you still maintain the pedophile should not face repercussions because dIsAbILiTy? Child just needs more eMpAThY for the poor, misunderstood pedo?

You're such a moron I can't believe I'm even bothering to respond to you but here goes.

Someone with a disability that causes physical tics who spills a beer on someone isn't getting charged with battery. I don't know what else to tell you. As to your inane tangent, I'm not responding to that.

that’s false because there could be a negligence based crime. Ie someone with a tick picks up a gun and the tick happens and the gun fires. They’ll be prosecuted

I'll say this slowly so that hopefully you can understand.

What will the person in your stupid hypothetical be charged with? Not murder, I'm guessing. Because that requires intent. As generally does battery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“ What’s really happening right now is not about Tourette’s. This ain’t about a neurological tic. It’s about protecting whiteness. It’s about what jumps into formation the second whiteness feels exposed. What we’re witnessing is the full machinery revving up. The sympathy. The soft language. The “let’s be fair.” The calls for compassion. The think pieces. The tone policing. The accusations of ableism. All to make sure the spotlight moves off the rot and back onto our reaction.

Because the real crisis, in their eyes, isn’t that the word came out of that white man’s mouth three times in the same night. It’s that we’re refusing to pretend like it didn’t mean anything. That’s what they’re protecting. Not a diagnosis. A narrative. The narrative that racism is rare. That it is located elsewhere in something more extreme. That it is accidental. A glitch. Not a feature and not part of who they are.”

https://newsone.com/6850861/black-people-dont-have-accept-john-davidson-apology/#comments

Thank you!
There's no reason he can't issue a formal apology.
Having a disability the particular one he has doesn't make you incapable of empathy.
Further language is learned we are not preprogrammed knowing offensive language so perhaps it isn't his fault he acquired that specific language as a child but he most certainly knows how offensive it is now. He also should know that intentions doesn't relate to if an apology is needed.
We all do things we don't mean to do yet we recognize the harm it's caused and apologize.
Further apologizing here would actually make him more empathetic people more likely to take his condition seriously.
But instead he chooses the poor me I can't help it eff everyone else .

I'm curious if his excuses would say they same if his remarks were offensive to another group.
I'm actually curious if his offensive language extends to any other groups.

[Anonymous]

Why not just step outside if he's having a moment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not just step outside if he's having a moment.

He eventually did. I think they were trying to prove a point since his other outbursts were tolerated until this last one and it seems like even he realized a line was crossed and he left. There are limits to people's tolerance and I think we can see where the line is.

[Anonymous]

It's unfortunate that this incident is actively bringing the entire TS community down. The movie had GREAT reception, bringing awareness of the condition, bringing positive dialogue. Now it's completely negative, honestly probably more so than before. It's set the movement towards acceptance and understanding back significantly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just step outside if he's having a moment.

He eventually did. I think they were trying to prove a point since his other outbursts were tolerated until this last one and it seems like even he realized a line was crossed and he left. There are limits to people's tolerance and I think we can see where the line is.

Okay I didn't realize he stepped out. I think the best move now is to issue a public apology.