Bafta awards controversy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He also did leave after saying the n word and watched the rest in a separate room.

BAFTA should have handled and managed it differently in many ways.

He had a right to be there given his movie is literally about this exact condition and the issues it causes. For the people there, this was a one time thing, for him, it is an everyday thing. Perhaps introducing and speaking to his movie at the start of the BAFTAs would have been a way to introduce the audience and to give context.

He also attended the BAFTA Dinner after the show where he continued to use the racial slur.

I dont think the word "use" is correct in your sentence. Use suggests intent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was important for the person with Tourette’s to attend because “I Swear,” a movie about him and his condition, was a BAFTA contender.

The whole point of the movie is that we should all give more grace to someone with Tourette’s and coprolalia - they shouldn’t have to avoid public venues and not live life. This same person had an unfortunate outburst when he was getting his MBE award from Queen Elizabeth. She knew about his condition and he was still invited to the ceremony.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2n9709g0go

If they are going to shout racial slurs, yes, they should avoid public venues. It’s unfortunate that shouting slurs is a symptom of their disability but oh well. The rest of the world doesn’t need to accommodate you screaming racist epithets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He also did leave after saying the n word and watched the rest in a separate room.

BAFTA should have handled and managed it differently in many ways.

He had a right to be there given his movie is literally about this exact condition and the issues it causes. For the people there, this was a one time thing, for him, it is an everyday thing. Perhaps introducing and speaking to his movie at the start of the BAFTAs would have been a way to introduce the audience and to give context.

He also attended the BAFTA Dinner after the show where he continued to use the racial slur.

I dont think the word "use" is correct in your sentence. Use suggests intent.

It was intentional!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was important for the person with Tourette’s to attend because “I Swear,” a movie about him and his condition, was a BAFTA contender.

The whole point of the movie is that we should all give more grace to someone with Tourette’s and coprolalia - they shouldn’t have to avoid public venues and not live life. This same person had an unfortunate outburst when he was getting his MBE award from Queen Elizabeth. She knew about his condition and he was still invited to the ceremony.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2n9709g0go

If they are going to shout racial slurs, yes, they should avoid public venues. It’s unfortunate that shouting slurs is a symptom of their disability but oh well. The rest of the world doesn’t need to accommodate you screaming racist epithets.

Actually, the rest of the world should accommodate people with a disability that may cause them to shout racial epithets with no ill intent. You are a disgusting, ablest pig.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He also did leave after saying the n word and watched the rest in a separate room.

BAFTA should have handled and managed it differently in many ways.

He had a right to be there given his movie is literally about this exact condition and the issues it causes. For the people there, this was a one time thing, for him, it is an everyday thing. Perhaps introducing and speaking to his movie at the start of the BAFTAs would have been a way to introduce the audience and to give context.

He also attended the BAFTA Dinner after the show where he continued to use the racial slur.

I dont think the word "use" is correct in your sentence. Use suggests intent.

He knows he has a tic that includes racial slurs. He absolutely “uses” the slur in his tic. It’s not unknown and he should not have attended the dinner after his previous behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was important for the person with Tourette’s to attend because “I Swear,” a movie about him and his condition, was a BAFTA contender.

The whole point of the movie is that we should all give more grace to someone with Tourette’s and coprolalia - they shouldn’t have to avoid public venues and not live life. This same person had an unfortunate outburst when he was getting his MBE award from Queen Elizabeth. She knew about his condition and he was still invited to the ceremony.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2n9709g0go

If they are going to shout racial slurs, yes, they should avoid public venues. It’s unfortunate that shouting slurs is a symptom of their disability but oh well. The rest of the world doesn’t need to accommodate you screaming racist epithets.

Actually, the rest of the world should accommodate people with a disability that may cause them to shout racial epithets with no ill intent. You are a disgusting, ablest pig.

Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He also did leave after saying the n word and watched the rest in a separate room.

BAFTA should have handled and managed it differently in many ways.

He had a right to be there given his movie is literally about this exact condition and the issues it causes. For the people there, this was a one time thing, for him, it is an everyday thing. Perhaps introducing and speaking to his movie at the start of the BAFTAs would have been a way to introduce the audience and to give context.

He also attended the BAFTA Dinner after the show where he continued to use the racial slur.

I dont think the word "use" is correct in your sentence. Use suggests intent.

It was intentional!

Based on what? Now you're the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're saying you don't understand the meaning of the word involuntary?

I think what everyone is hung up on is that this word had to have been in his thoughts. Seems stretchy to me.

So nobody can suggest someone like that should not attend golf tennis or chess matches?

As analogies go, this is a low F. C'mon, PP, try harder.

[Anonymous]

I think the BAFTAs did all three of them a disservice by tossing them into a firestorm that I doubt any of them wanted to be in.

[Anonymous]

What if they shout something ableist? Like gassing disabled people?

[Anonymous]

I can never understand what it’s like to be a person with Tourette’s syndrome or a person of color. That said, I agree with Jamie Fox and others on this. Many apologies and will not happen agains need to be given and BAFTA should not air. The fact the word was even in the man’s vocabulary says something. I’ll also add I was around a few people with Tourette’s syndrome for a year and no one said any racial slurs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the BAFTAs did all three of them a disservice by tossing them into a firestorm that I doubt any of them wanted to be in.

Agreed. This could've been a great teaching moment but if they actually cared. They invited him and knew how bad his tics were so it was on them to be better prepared while he was going through a flare up. Shame on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can never understand what it’s like to be a person with Tourette’s syndrome or a person of color. That said, I agree with Jamie Fox and others on this. Many apologies and will not happen agains need to be given and BAFTA should not air. The fact the word was even in the man’s vocabulary says something. I’ll also add I was around a few people with Tourette’s syndrome for a year and no one said any racial slurs.

Isn’t it in everyone’s vocabulary? I’ve never said it in my life but it’s certainly in my head somewhere because I’ve heard people say it in music and TV shows.

My child has Tourette’s. Their vocal tics are animal noises — mostly sound like bird calls. My child does not have any interest in birding and has never been birding, yet there is is, popping out of their head. There are some CBT techniques you can use to suppress a tic—my child did the therapy at children’s. I don’t know how successful it is if you have an extreme version of it and I don’t know if it works for everyone. I am sure my child’s tics are distracting to some people, and they typically took tests in a separate room because of it, but were not otherwise excluded from classes even though I’m sure some kids would have preferred them to not be there.

I think all this is really hard, but I agree with PP that it seems easy enough for Bafta to edit out the words, and for the person with Tourette’s to make a sincere apology. I think the best way to view it as someone that accidentally said something that sounded like the word — lbut you knew that’s not what they were trying to say.

[Anonymous]

This was broadcast with a two hour delay. The slur was left in but “free Palestine” was edited out.

I think his condition means that he blurts out whatever is the most shocking for the person present. Hence him saying ‘F the Queen’ when he met her.

[Anonymous]

So similar to the HGTV lady who "accidentally" shouted the N word.

If the N word is in your vocabulary and you arent part of that community, you're racist. Whether you involuntary shout racist things or not doesnt matter, because the racism is already there.