Will Manchin and Sinema crack?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

You want everything free and you don't even want to pay for it out of your salary?

Yes only millionaires get everything for free…paying no taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

You want everything free and you don't even want to pay for it out of your salary?

That would be the point - these are families that cannot afford childcare. If you take it out of their paychecks a different way, it doesn’t help anything. This is just Manchin trying to tank childcare in a way that will appeal to people who don’t think too hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

God, he is such a shitbag.

So those of us who already had our kids, and didn’t get any paid leave, should pay tax so others can have it? GTFO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

You want everything free and you don't even want to pay for it out of your salary?

That would be the point - these are families that cannot afford childcare. If you take it out of their paychecks a different way, it doesn’t help anything. This is just Manchin trying to tank childcare in a way that will appeal to people who don’t think too hard.

The payroll tax is for paid leave, not childcare. Keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

You want everything free and you don't even want to pay for it out of your salary?

That would be the point - these are families that cannot afford childcare. If you take it out of their paychecks a different way, it doesn’t help anything. This is just Manchin trying to tank childcare in a way that will appeal to people who don’t think too hard.

The payroll tax is for paid leave, not childcare. Keep up.

That was a mistype, I meant paid leave. Point still stands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

God, he is such a shitbag.

So those of us who already had our kids, and didn’t get any paid leave, should pay tax so others can have it? GTFO.

I’m willing to do it even though I’m done having kids. Maybe I’m just a kinder and more generous person than you.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

With Back Channels to Manchin and Sinema, Pelosi Found a Path to a Deal

"The House’s approval of a sweeping social policy bill after weeks of fits and starts notched another win for the speaker in a career defined by them."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/us/politics/pelosi-democrats-biden-agenda.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

God, he is such a shitbag.

So those of us who already had our kids, and didn’t get any paid leave, should pay tax so others can have it? GTFO.

I’m willing to do it even though I’m done having kids. Maybe I’m just a kinder and more generous person than you.

Sanctimonious, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

God, he is such a shitbag.

So those of us who already had our kids, and didn’t get any paid leave, should pay tax so others can have it? GTFO.

I’m willing to do it even though I’m done having kids. Maybe I’m just a kinder and more generous person than you.

NP. I’m not ‘generous’ enough to pay for other people who can’t afford it to have kids. And then since they can’t afford it, I’ll need to keep paying to raise those kids. Paying for public schools that we don’t use is as far as I’m willing to go towards paying to raise other people’s kids. My responsibility is to my own family. Some of us don’t have trust funds and inheritances coming to us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

God, he is such a shitbag.

So those of us who already had our kids, and didn’t get any paid leave, should pay tax so others can have it? GTFO.

I’m willing to do it even though I’m done having kids. Maybe I’m just a kinder and more generous person than you.

+1
I wonder what else the PP wants to maintain a certain level of misery in at the societal level because she didn’t have nice things. “It was that miserable when I was young, so young people shouldn’t have anything nicer.” It’s a bizarre tally to keep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

God, he is such a shitbag.

So those of us who already had our kids, and didn’t get any paid leave, should pay tax so others can have it? GTFO.

I’m willing to do it even though I’m done having kids. Maybe I’m just a kinder and more generous person than you.

+1
I wonder what else the PP wants to maintain a certain level of misery in at the societal level because she didn’t have nice things. “It was that miserable when I was young, so young people shouldn’t have anything nicer.” It’s a bizarre tally to keep.

DP. Nope.
Some of us simply believe that the government is not the answer to all society's ills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

God, he is such a shitbag.

So those of us who already had our kids, and didn’t get any paid leave, should pay tax so others can have it? GTFO.

I’m willing to do it even though I’m done having kids. Maybe I’m just a kinder and more generous person than you.

NP. I’m not ‘generous’ enough to pay for other people who can’t afford it to have kids. And then since they can’t afford it, I’ll need to keep paying to raise those kids. Paying for public schools that we don’t use is as far as I’m willing to go towards paying to raise other people’s kids. My responsibility is to my own family. Some of us don’t have trust funds and inheritances coming to us.

Does that include the conservatives who are complaining about buying 12 gallons of milk a week for their horde of children? FOX News is suddenly now insisting Biden has some responsibility to RWs that can't afford their own kids. That's a complete 180... or just expedient hypocrisy for ignorant people who can't tell what's going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

God, he is such a shitbag.

So those of us who already had our kids, and didn’t get any paid leave, should pay tax so others can have it? GTFO.

I’m willing to do it even though I’m done having kids. Maybe I’m just a kinder and more generous person than you.

NP. I’m not ‘generous’ enough to pay for other people who can’t afford it to have kids. And then since they can’t afford it, I’ll need to keep paying to raise those kids. Paying for public schools that we don’t use is as far as I’m willing to go towards paying to raise other people’s kids. My responsibility is to my own family. Some of us don’t have trust funds and inheritances coming to us.

I see your point EXCEPT you dont live in isolation. You pay for public schools because its for the public good. If I dont have a car I still have to pay for roads. And I really cant imagine that you are okay with children suffering. I make 60k and have a child. My partner makes 90k. We make more than many and make a LOT less than most of our peers. My child's health and wellbeing are not infringed upon if I need to pay 2k more in taxes a year. Do you know why? Bc he has loving, involved parents.

I wont allow children to suffer just so you can stick it to their parents. How hard up do you have to be to see the world the way you do. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Joe Manchin says he could be on board with paid leave but wants a new payroll tax on workers to access the social benefit

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-manchin-paid-leave-workers-democrats-congress-biden-2021-11

Wow Joe wants to raise taxes on everyone. What a republicans.

God, he is such a shitbag.

So those of us who already had our kids, and didn’t get any paid leave, should pay tax so others can have it? GTFO.

I’m willing to do it even though I’m done having kids. Maybe I’m just a kinder and more generous person than you.

NP. I’m not ‘generous’ enough to pay for other people who can’t afford it to have kids. And then since they can’t afford it, I’ll need to keep paying to raise those kids. Paying for public schools that we don’t use is as far as I’m willing to go towards paying to raise other people’s kids. My responsibility is to my own family. Some of us don’t have trust funds and inheritances coming to us.

I see your point EXCEPT you dont live in isolation. You pay for public schools because its for the public good. If I dont have a car I still have to pay for roads. And I really cant imagine that you are okay with children suffering. I make 60k and have a child. My partner makes 90k. We make more than many and make a LOT less than most of our peers. My child's health and wellbeing are not infringed upon if I need to pay 2k more in taxes a year. Do you know why? Bc he has loving, involved parents.

I wont allow children to suffer just so you can stick it to their parents. How hard up do you have to be to see the world the way you do. Ugh.

No one is 'suffering' because PP and I refuse to be happy about paying more and more for kids we didn't bring into this world and their parents have no plans to provide for despite the free education they too received at the expense of the government.

The progressives wanted free monthly summer stipends for food, free pre-school, free childcare, free college, free year-round monthly stipends for everything else, on top of the 15 years of already free standard education and free breakfast/lunch provided to kids and free healthcare for impoverished children.

At some point its the parents responsibility to provide for their own children.