School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.

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Madisyn
Hana
Tate
Justin

Please remember their names.
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Anonymous wrote:Madisyn
Hana
Tate
Justin

Please remember their names.


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Anonymous wrote:Madisyn
Hana
Tate
Justin

Please remember their names.


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Poor kids.

Especially this one - honor student, varsity football, he was going places.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe if the parents who fail these "sweet boys" (always this) would not be so worried about their narrative - but instead, be more concerned about their family, and their impact on the world, their sons would not be shooting up schools.

My kids are in middle school - but they can't graduate soon enough for me. Parents should not have to be worried every time they drop their kid off at the bus stop, that it might be the last time they see them, because Mrs. Smith down the street can't be bothered to care about anything but herself and her narrative.



So sexist.


When is the last time you saw a girl school shooter? When is the last time you had a problematic kid in school, and the mom was the one (of the parents) who did not want to get the kid the help he needs. I know several in my rich community. In each case, it happens to be the mom that is against meds. When you know so much about your own community, and you are worried about THAT KID coming to school with guns (plural) - then feel free to chime in. It's not a great feeling to know it is only a matter of time in your school. Sit down.



It’s 2021 and you’re still blaming the mom for being either too checked out or too coddling. Where’s dad? Why is he getting a pass? IME, even the hands-on dads know very little about their kids’ day-to-day experiences with social circles or classes.
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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...



Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.


No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.


He is still a 15 year old CHILD.


He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.


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There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.



Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.
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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...



Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.


No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.


He is still a 15 year old CHILD.




He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.


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There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.



Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.


Fetal alcohol syndrome causes facial anomalies.
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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...



Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.


No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.


He is still a 15 year old CHILD.




He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.


+1

There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.



Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.


Fetal alcohol syndrome causes facial anomalies.



What anomalies are you noticing?
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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...



Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.


No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.


He is still a 15 year old CHILD.




He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.


+1

There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.



Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.


Fetal alcohol syndrome causes facial anomalies.


Can we stop with this please? We have no idea if he has fetal alcohol syndrome (and it’s doubtful - he may have wide set eyes but nothing else). And there aren’t facial deformities that connect to mental illness. You people have lost all sense of reality.
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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...



Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.


No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.


He is still a 15 year old CHILD.




He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.


+1

There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.



Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.


Fetal alcohol syndrome causes facial anomalies.


Can we stop with this please? We have no idea if he has fetal alcohol syndrome (and it’s doubtful - he may have wide set eyes but nothing else). And there aren’t facial deformities that connect to mental illness. You people have lost all sense of reality.


I'm not the first FAS poster, but as soon as I saw his photo that's immediately what I thought too.
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Anonymous wrote:In Europe we had academically selective schools where you take an IQ test age 11 and if you're bright you go to the learning school and if you're not you go to the other school for messing about. That stops a lot of those negative interactions between kids who are just there to mess around (or worse) and kids trying to learn. While American public schools have no vetting process whatsoever. You might have raised a functional and smart child in a ideal environment, but once you sent them to public school you expose them to an ethos of bullies, future criminals, children of single moms, children on drugs, lunatic teachers, apathetic administration, and so forth.


Yes. This is the correct approach for the public schools.

In Germany, we actually have 3 levels of state schools. This is why the university is cost-free; only those students of high abilities should be in the university.

The other students receive an education appropriate for their intelligence/skill level, to prepare them for a job appropriate for them.

In this way, we avoid so many of the social problems you have here in America.


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Spot on.


This is actually super smart. Too many students here go to university that don’t need the degree for the jobs they end up working and just end up with a bunch of debt. There aren’t high paying jobs that requiring a higher level of education for all the kids that end up in college
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Jeez, I have most of those things just genetically (wideset eyes with eyelid folds, flat nose bridge, thin upper lip), and my mom was a teetotaler (that also never smoked).

This kid looks like half the kids that my teens and tweens go to school with. The boys all have dirty, messy hair and those greasy half mustaches now. And the school was worried about him but apparently did not think he was a major discipline problem -- he was allowed to return to class and had not been previously disciplined.

What stands out to me is the mother's absolutely insane letter that she posted online. And that the father was apparently marginally employed and released from his last job a couple of months ago for reasons that sound like misconduct/performance (or might have been refusal to vaccinate, given the timing). There was obviously some bad sh-t going on in this house. Raised by different parents, this kid might have turned out very differently. Or, raised in a household without guns, this kid might have turned his life around. We'll never know what kind of person he MIGHT have become, because the presence of guns means that what MIGHT have been a transitory problem in his life relating to brain immaturity combined with bad circumstances combined with an inability to process emotions in a healthy manner turned into a permanent and life-altering day -- both for him and for every one of the children in that school. Guns take a problem that could be a big or small problem and very quickly turn them into an awful, awful, awful problem.

The biggest question here (to my mind) is why, as a country, do we keep giving serious weaponry to people that refuse to be responsible for them? You can't get a car or adopt a dog without showing that you will take care of it properly and get the right tags, insurance, etc. Where is the accountability for gun owners? How can any judge think that this is a "a well regulated militia"?

(Side note, but the fact that the S Ct justices were just giving the oral advocates crap about where in the constitution does it protect the right to abortion, when they refuse to acknowledge that the constitution also says nothing about the right to keep massive weaponry unlocked in your kitchen....is just one of the reasons I am SO SICK of our legal system.)

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Anonymous wrote:Jeez, I have most of those things just genetically (wideset eyes with eyelid folds, flat nose bridge, thin upper lip), and my mom was a teetotaler (that also never smoked).

This kid looks like half the kids that my teens and tweens go to school with. The boys all have dirty, messy hair and those greasy half mustaches now. And the school was worried about him but apparently did not think he was a major discipline problem -- he was allowed to return to class and had not been previously disciplined.

What stands out to me is the mother's absolutely insane letter that she posted online. And that the father was apparently marginally employed and released from his last job a couple of months ago for reasons that sound like misconduct/performance (or might have been refusal to vaccinate, given the timing). There was obviously some bad sh-t going on in this house. Raised by different parents, this kid might have turned out very differently. Or, raised in a household without guns, this kid might have turned his life around. We'll never know what kind of person he MIGHT have become, because the presence of guns means that what MIGHT have been a transitory problem in his life relating to brain immaturity combined with bad circumstances combined with an inability to process emotions in a healthy manner turned into a permanent and life-altering day -- both for him and for every one of the children in that school. Guns take a problem that could be a big or small problem and very quickly turn them into an awful, awful, awful problem.

The biggest question here (to my mind) is why, as a country, do we keep giving serious weaponry to people that refuse to be responsible for them? You can't get a car or adopt a dog without showing that you will take care of it properly and get the right tags, insurance, etc. Where is the accountability for gun owners? How can any judge think that this is a "a well regulated militia"?

(Side note, but the fact that the S Ct justices were just giving the oral advocates crap about where in the constitution does it protect the right to abortion, when they refuse to acknowledge that the constitution also says nothing about the right to keep massive weaponry unlocked in your kitchen....is just one of the reasons I am SO SICK of our legal system.)




I agree with much of what you wrote. And sadly, the SC seems to want to force more women to have children they don’t want, which will only continue this awful cycle.
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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...



Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.


No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.


He is still a 15 year old CHILD.


He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.


+1

There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.



Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.


Look it up. There is endless research on this topic.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...



Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.


No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.


He is still a 15 year old CHILD.




He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.


+1

There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.



Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.


Fetal alcohol syndrome causes facial anomalies.



But FAS is not a mental illness.
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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...



Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.


No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.


He is still a 15 year old CHILD.


He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.


+1

There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.



Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.


+1
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