The lawsuit against Royal Caribbean/toddler death

Anonymous
I’ve been on RCI ships and know what windows they’re talking about. It really is tough to tell if they’re open or closed. I think the bank of windows creates an optical illusion of sorts. I can see how he would make this mistake.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on RCI ships and know what windows they’re talking about. It really is tough to tell if they’re open or closed. I think the bank of windows creates an optical illusion of sorts. I can see how he would make this mistake.


No, sorry but i have been on this exact ship before and it was obvious when the windows were open because of the breeze you would feel when standing in front of the open window.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on RCI ships and know what windows they’re talking about. It really is tough to tell if they’re open or closed. I think the bank of windows creates an optical illusion of sorts. I can see how he would make this mistake.


No, sorry but i have been on this exact ship before and it was obvious when the windows were open because of the breeze you would feel when standing in front of the open window.

Well, then our experiences were different. I’ve been on over 20 RCI cruises including this ship.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on RCI ships and know what windows they’re talking about. It really is tough to tell if they’re open or closed. I think the bank of windows creates an optical illusion of sorts. I can see how he would make this mistake.


No, sorry but i have been on this exact ship before and it was obvious when the windows were open because of the breeze you would feel when standing in front of the open window.

Well, then our experiences were different. I’ve been on over 20 RCI cruises including this ship.


Well frankly, you are also a complete idiot if you cannot tell a window is open when you're standing in front of it.
Anonymous
There's video of gramps holding the child out over the window for 21 seconds.
Anonymous
This family is honestly pathetic at this point. They are looking for a big pay day even though it’s apparent that the grandfather is at fault. Instead of just grieving their child and trying to move on, they are now trying to sue for big $. It’s just sad and pathetic. I really hope RC doesn’t settle or back down from this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's video of gramps holding the child out over the window for 21 seconds.



Where?
Anonymous
From an abc news at ticle:


“ABC News reviewed surveillance video of the incident, which was discovery evidence prosecutors shared with defense attorneys this week.

In the video, which did not include audio, Chloe, wearing a white hat, her swim suit and swim shoes, runs across the pool area with her grandfather a few feet behind. walk over to the wall of windows where Anello appears to look over the railing, through the open window. Anello picks Chloe up and stands her up on the railing, and they appear to lean over together looking out over the port.Then he re-adjusts and sits Chloe on the railing, still facing the port. They lean over again and she disappears from the frame.”


I’m sorry but there is NO WAY he didn’t realize that the window was open. NO WAY.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is already a long thread


Where is the long thread?


Toddler death on a cruise ship. So tragic. (July - 35 pages)
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/815213.page

Grandpa from cruise ship tragedy charged (October - 35 pages)
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/836677.page

Cruise Ship Lawsuit & Today Show (July - 17 pages)
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/817597.page

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From an abc news at ticle:


“ABC News reviewed surveillance video of the incident, which was discovery evidence prosecutors shared with defense attorneys this week.

In the video, which did not include audio, Chloe, wearing a white hat, her swim suit and swim shoes, runs across the pool area with her grandfather a few feet behind. walk over to the wall of windows where Anello appears to look over the railing, through the open window. Anello picks Chloe up and stands her up on the railing, and they appear to lean over together looking out over the port.Then he re-adjusts and sits Chloe on the railing, still facing the port. They lean over again and she disappears from the frame.”


I’m sorry but there is NO WAY he didn’t realize that the window was open. NO WAY.


Agreed. The family should be ashamed of themselves
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From an abc news at ticle:


“ABC News reviewed surveillance video of the incident, which was discovery evidence prosecutors shared with defense attorneys this week.

In the video, which did not include audio, Chloe, wearing a white hat, her swim suit and swim shoes, runs across the pool area with her grandfather a few feet behind. walk over to the wall of windows where Anello appears to look over the railing, through the open window. Anello picks Chloe up and stands her up on the railing, and they appear to lean over together looking out over the port.Then he re-adjusts and sits Chloe on the railing, still facing the port. They lean over again and she disappears from the frame.”


I’m sorry but there is NO WAY he didn’t realize that the window was open. NO WAY.


Based on that description, it sounds like she fell out head first as he was leaning her over, into the open window. She threw her weight forward and he lost his grip . Also sounds like the statement of the Pueto Rican police (Annello said he held her out the window) is consistent with the video as described by ABC news.

Had they grieved and kept their lawyer on a short leash, RC would have paid them some sympathy award, they would have public sympathy for years, and they would move through their grief. Instead, their lawyer is far afield from the facts, and they look like gold diggers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From an abc news at ticle:
“ABC News reviewed surveillance video of the incident, which was discovery evidence prosecutors shared with defense attorneys this week.

In the video, which did not include audio, Chloe, wearing a white hat, her swim suit and swim shoes, runs across the pool area with her grandfather a few feet behind. walk over to the wall of windows where Anello appears to look over the railing, through the open window. Anello picks Chloe up and stands her up on the railing, and they appear to lean over together looking out over the port.Then he re-adjusts and sits Chloe on the railing, still facing the port. They lean over again and she disappears from the frame.”

I’m sorry but there is NO WAY he didn’t realize that the window was open. NO WAY.

Agreed. The family should be ashamed of themselves

+1 And I’m glad Grandpa was charged. He was absolutely negligent. The family is greedy trash at this point by continuing to spread lies that Grandpa didn't know the window was open and to actually file their lawsuit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been on RCI ships and know what windows they’re talking about. It really is tough to tell if they’re open or closed. I think the bank of windows creates an optical illusion of sorts. I can see how he would make this mistake.

No, sorry but i have been on this exact ship before and it was obvious when the windows were open because of the breeze you would feel when standing in front of the open window.

Well, then our experiences were different. I’ve been on over 20 RCI cruises including this ship.

Well frankly, you are also a complete idiot if you cannot tell a window is open when you're standing in front of it.

The PP is a liar trying to stir up drama. It is impossible to not know the window was open because of the breeze. The window coloring means nothing’s because you can’t argue that a breeze - and a strong one at that - isn’t coming through the open window.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From an abc news at ticle:


“ABC News reviewed surveillance video of the incident, which was discovery evidence prosecutors shared with defense attorneys this week.

In the video, which did not include audio, Chloe, wearing a white hat, her swim suit and swim shoes, runs across the pool area with her grandfather a few feet behind. walk over to the wall of windows where Anello appears to look over the railing, through the open window. Anello picks Chloe up and stands her up on the railing, and they appear to lean over together looking out over the port.Then he re-adjusts and sits Chloe on the railing, still facing the port. They lean over again and she disappears from the frame.”


I’m sorry but there is NO WAY he didn’t realize that the window was open. NO WAY.


Based on that description, it sounds like she fell out head first as he was leaning her over, into the open window. She threw her weight forward and he lost his grip . Also sounds like the statement of the Pueto Rican police (Annello said he held her out the window) is consistent with the video as described by ABC news.

Had they grieved and kept their lawyer on a short leash, RC would have paid them some sympathy award, they would have public sympathy for years, and they would move through their grief. Instead, their lawyer is far afield from the facts, and they look like gold diggers.


The mom is a prosecutor and the father is a cop. I think they know what they're doing and that it's not just their lawyer making them look like gold diggers. They are out for money.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From an abc news at ticle:
“ABC News reviewed surveillance video of the incident, which was discovery evidence prosecutors shared with defense attorneys this week.

In the video, which did not include audio, Chloe, wearing a white hat, her swim suit and swim shoes, runs across the pool area with her grandfather a few feet behind. walk over to the wall of windows where Anello appears to look over the railing, through the open window. Anello picks Chloe up and stands her up on the railing, and they appear to lean over together looking out over the port.Then he re-adjusts and sits Chloe on the railing, still facing the port. They lean over again and she disappears from the frame.”

I’m sorry but there is NO WAY he didn’t realize that the window was open. NO WAY.

Agreed. The family should be ashamed of themselves

+1 And I’m glad Grandpa was charged. He was absolutely negligent. The family is greedy trash at this point by continuing to spread lies that Grandpa didn't know the window was open and to actually file their lawsuit.


They refuse to even look at the video of the incident which would tell them in no uncertain terms what happened to Chloe. They want to believe the Cruise Ship is at fault because that's the only way they get anything out of this.
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