Sick of being fat but man- I have no willpower

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the Keto people, how much and what kind of fats are you taking in? Specifically, how are your cholesterol levels?


My macros have me at 55g fat/ 100-130g protein/ <20g net carbs.

Fattier cuts of turkey (93%), sometimes chicken thighs (but mostly breasts), small amounts of olive or coconut oil, small amounts of cheese / olives / nuts. I'm the PP above that recommends high protein and against anything silly like fat bombs. It's the lack of carbs that gets you into ketosis, not eating fat. I mostly use keto just to lose weight. Once it comes time to build, I add complex carbs like potatoes, oatmeal, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the Keto people, how much and what kind of fats are you taking in? Specifically, how are your cholesterol levels?


My macros have me at 55g fat/ 100-130g protein/ <20g net carbs.

Fattier cuts of turkey (93%), sometimes chicken thighs (but mostly breasts), small amounts of olive or coconut oil, small amounts of cheese / olives / nuts. I'm the PP above that recommends high protein and against anything silly like fat bombs. It's the lack of carbs that gets you into ketosis, not eating fat. I mostly use keto just to lose weight. Once it comes time to build, I add complex carbs like potatoes, oatmeal, etc.


Also, I don't stress too much if my net carbs end up being on the higher side, even 40g net carbs, if those carbs are coming from things like broccoli, cauliflower, or zucchini, although I do limit higher sugar vegetables like beets and carrots. Nor do I worry about whether I'm "in ketosis." I track my calories and end up eating around 1100-1200 calories depending on if I'm training, which puts me at a deficit whether I'm technically in ketosis or not. Basically eating higher protein and fats keeps me full and satiated while dieting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whole 30.


Absolutely not. She can barely make it through 12 hours -- she's not going to make Whole 30. It's nucking futs.


I think it is actually not so hard once you get into the swing of things
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The new ww program is great. Nothing processed at all! I've lost 25 pounds, nice and slow, which all studies say will help the pounds stay off better/longer, since Feb. Now back to my pre-wedding weight. I am mid-40s now.


The MyFitnessPal app does the same exact thing as WE and it’s free.

Also, no weird gimmicks or food restrictions. Eat what you want as long as it’s in your allotted calories for the day.
Anonymous
* as WW
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whole 30.


Absolutely not. She can barely make it through 12 hours -- she's not going to make Whole 30. It's nucking futs.


I think it is actually not so hard once you get into the swing of things


I am low willpower, need to lose 25 pounds, and I lasted less than a day on Whole 30. I don't think these recommendations for keto, Whole30, no -sugar, etc. work for low willpower people. In my experience, I lack the willpower to follow those kinds of strict rules long enough to change my appetite or patterns or develop a new habit. Or, if I can do it, I eventually fall off the wagon and eat all the sweets/(insert other forbidden food).

I think eating a variety of foods in moderation, and significantly increasing quantities of vegetables and lean meats, plus increasing exercise is the only real solution for low willpower people. WW sounded good to me in theory, but I have trouble committing to tracking everything I eat, and eating only 'free' foods requires restrictions similar to Whole30 or similar restrictive programs.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A warning about keto—it’s not for everyone! The Pp had great success (congrats!) but google “keto side effects” before you jump in.


+1! What’s you’re cholesterol look like a year down the road???
Anonymous
Buy the $14 book called Bright Line Eating by Susan Pierce Thomas, Phd. Seriously best money you will ever spend.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A warning about keto—it’s not for everyone! The Pp had great success (congrats!) but google “keto side effects” before you jump in.


Google "ibuprofen side effects"

Google "Air freshener side effects"

Google lysol side effects

literally everything impacts SOMEONE.


You can eye roll all you want, but Lysol and air fresheners are not a necessity of survival, while food IS. Google side effects of the Mediterranean diet...google side effects of weight watchers....I’m guessing you’re not going to find “systemic rash” (https://www.dietdoctor.com/keto-rash-people-itch-low-carb), “hair loss” or “constipation” as side effects of more moderate diets. And feel free to look up “keto kitty/keto crotch” so I don’t have to spell it out here.

Anonymous
Main keto poster here, and this is what I feared would happen.. the fear mongering. Here's the deal, my cholesterol looks great now. I've reduced my risk of early death by having good blood markers AND losing over 50 pounds. I was 7 pounds away from becoming morbidly obese and now am mid-range for my "healthy" weight range. If I go back to the doctor in a year, and something is amiss, I'll absolutely change it. But right now, I'm not the winded, napping, snappy, unfocused person I was before. The processed food I was eating was harming me. Could I have done this with grilled chicken breasts and olive oil and quinoa? Maybe. But, I've done low calories, lower fat, carb heavy diets and I was CONSTANTLY starving. For me, getting the weight off was the most important thing, and I did. Using ground beef, cheese, and heavy cream. I didn't have any rashes or hair loss (actually, after my thyroid improved ON ITS OWN my hair is much better!), constipation was a non-issue since I didn't eat weird made up keto foods and eat veggies with every meal, and I got nothing on the kitty keto whatever. I hoping to tell MY story to the OP, which is ... if you need to change something and nothing has worked in the past, I've been there. And so I finally decided to stop being so hardheaded and try something new. The weight loss is great, but the fact that I'm healthy, happy and confident in my skin makes all the difference. I didn't want to live my life sick, tired and obese anymore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whole 30.


Absolutely not. She can barely make it through 12 hours -- she's not going to make Whole 30. It's nucking futs.


I think it is actually not so hard once you get into the swing of things


I am low willpower, need to lose 25 pounds, and I lasted less than a day on Whole 30. I don't think these recommendations for keto, Whole30, no -sugar, etc. work for low willpower people. In my experience, I lack the willpower to follow those kinds of strict rules long enough to change my appetite or patterns or develop a new habit. Or, if I can do it, I eventually fall off the wagon and eat all the sweets/(insert other forbidden food).

I think eating a variety of foods in moderation, and significantly increasing quantities of vegetables and lean meats, plus increasing exercise is the only real solution for low willpower people. WW sounded good to me in theory, but I have trouble committing to tracking everything I eat, and eating only 'free' foods requires restrictions similar to Whole30 or similar restrictive programs.



I doubt there's another way to do this without committing yourself to keep track of what you are eating. FWIW, I became more familiar with the calorie contents of the food after a few months,and also more familiar with empty calorie food that may be added in your usual meals( sauces, oil, sugar). Commitment is what you need to have in all of the suggestions above. Maybe a group in reddit or myfitnesspal would help to get you motivated.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Main keto poster here, and this is what I feared would happen.. the fear mongering. Here's the deal, my cholesterol looks great now. I've reduced my risk of early death by having good blood markers AND losing over 50 pounds. I was 7 pounds away from becoming morbidly obese and now am mid-range for my "healthy" weight range. If I go back to the doctor in a year, and something is amiss, I'll absolutely change it. But right now, I'm not the winded, napping, snappy, unfocused person I was before. The processed food I was eating was harming me. Could I have done this with grilled chicken breasts and olive oil and quinoa? Maybe. But, I've done low calories, lower fat, carb heavy diets and I was CONSTANTLY starving. For me, getting the weight off was the most important thing, and I did. Using ground beef, cheese, and heavy cream. I didn't have any rashes or hair loss (actually, after my thyroid improved ON ITS OWN my hair is much better!), constipation was a non-issue since I didn't eat weird made up keto foods and eat veggies with every meal, and I got nothing on the kitty keto whatever. I hoping to tell MY story to the OP, which is ... if you need to change something and nothing has worked in the past, I've been there. And so I finally decided to stop being so hardheaded and try something new. The weight loss is great, but the fact that I'm healthy, happy and confident in my skin makes all the difference. I didn't want to live my life sick, tired and obese anymore.


But here's the thing - you aren't just telling your story. You're evangelizing. As I pointed out before, you posted:

MDs have been pushing low fat, lots of whole grain diets for 50 years now and ... we are literally dying from diabetes and obesity.


You're suggesting that other ways of eating (such as the Mediterranean diet) are don't work, and actually are counterproductive. You continue that in this post, with the bolded comment, which suggests that people who try other ways of eating healthy and losing weight are just being stubborn, and refusing to accept that Keto is the way to lose weight.

I get that its working for you, and I'm happy that your're healthier. But you're ignoring a lot in your story. For example, you used to eat a sleeve of oreos at a time (and I'm sure that wasn't the only unhealthy food choice you made). Perhaps the fact that you've finally stopped making those bad choices has as much or more to do with your weight loss than the particular diet you're on now. You refuse to acknowledge that, and attribute all of the weight loss to Keto while simultaneously denigrating other diets/weight loss methods. That's irresponsible, and intellectually dishonest.
Anonymous
Intermittent Fasting is the only thing that works to maintain my weight. Like, if I know I am going to eat a big meal I skip the meals before and after. Maybe have a few nuts or an apple to just satisfy the hunger.

I also drink a lot of tea, and try to remember to drink a ton of water.

Also, don't beat yourself up so much. Food just tastes better to some...I've experienced it myself on some medications. Hormones also play a role. Keep the focus on how your feel within your self and your overall health.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Main keto poster here, and this is what I feared would happen.. the fear mongering. Here's the deal, my cholesterol looks great now. I've reduced my risk of early death by having good blood markers AND losing over 50 pounds. I was 7 pounds away from becoming morbidly obese and now am mid-range for my "healthy" weight range. If I go back to the doctor in a year, and something is amiss, I'll absolutely change it. But right now, I'm not the winded, napping, snappy, unfocused person I was before. The processed food I was eating was harming me. Could I have done this with grilled chicken breasts and olive oil and quinoa? Maybe. But, I've done low calories, lower fat, carb heavy diets and I was CONSTANTLY starving. For me, getting the weight off was the most important thing, and I did. Using ground beef, cheese, and heavy cream. I didn't have any rashes or hair loss (actually, after my thyroid improved ON ITS OWN my hair is much better!), constipation was a non-issue since I didn't eat weird made up keto foods and eat veggies with every meal, and I got nothing on the kitty keto whatever. I hoping to tell MY story to the OP, which is ... if you need to change something and nothing has worked in the past, I've been there. And so I finally decided to stop being so hardheaded and try something new. The weight loss is great, but the fact that I'm healthy, happy and confident in my skin makes all the difference. I didn't want to live my life sick, tired and obese anymore.


But here's the thing - you aren't just telling your story. You're evangelizing. As I pointed out before, you posted:

MDs have been pushing low fat, lots of whole grain diets for 50 years now and ... we are literally dying from diabetes and obesity.


You're suggesting that other ways of eating (such as the Mediterranean diet) are don't work, and actually are counterproductive. You continue that in this post, with the bolded comment, which suggests that people who try other ways of eating healthy and losing weight are just being stubborn, and refusing to accept that Keto is the way to lose weight.

I get that its working for you, and I'm happy that your're healthier. But you're ignoring a lot in your story. For example, you used to eat a sleeve of oreos at a time (and I'm sure that wasn't the only unhealthy food choice you made). Perhaps the fact that you've finally stopped making those bad choices has as much or more to do with your weight loss than the particular diet you're on now. You refuse to acknowledge that, and attribute all of the weight loss to Keto while simultaneously denigrating other diets/weight loss methods. That's irresponsible, and intellectually dishonest.


Not denigrating. But a lot of people aren't satiated without healthy fats. They just aren't. I never was. And it took a leap of faith to change my life. I'd be curious to know, PP, if you've ever been obese?

And absolutely made poor food choices. I think I've owned that. I've repeatedly said that keto is the ONLY diet that has allowed me to consistently make better food choices without slipping up, which is where the OP said she was having problem - willpower. I don't need willpower with Keto, because after the first week, I didn't crave unhealthy things. I'm the poster girl for zero willpower, as evidenced by my sleeve of oreos.

So OP, if you are still reading in this muddle of nonsense, I hope you know that you don't need willpower. Willpower is a silly thing, anyway. You need to figure out WHY you are doing this, WHAT you hope to change, and find something that YOU can stick to. Whatever you decide, start now. The time is going to pass by either way, and it'll feel really good to go into the holidays feeling better about yourself. You've got this!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you need to readjust the way you are approaching your goal. Instead of trying to lose 40 pounds at once, maybe try breaking it into more achievable goals of 10 lbs at a time? When I had my second son, I was weighing around 205 lbs at delivery. My starting weight when I got pregnant was 165, which was 20 lbs higher than what I weighed when I had my first son. I lost the first 30 lbs really fast in the first month or so without any effort. I went from 175 to 165 by doing weight watchers. I went from 165 to 155 by sticking with weight watchers and adding in regular Peloton rides. I stayed from 152-155 for a long time, and finally dropped down to my current weight of 145 by continuing to do Peloton bike rides, adding in a few Peloton boot camps, and tracking my food intake on MyFitnessPal. I’ve been at 145 for a while and would love to get down below 140 and keep my weight around 138. It has taken me over a year and a half to get where I am, and I’ve had lots of long plateaus along the way with a few pounds gained back and lost again. I really don’t think I would have been successful at losing all of this weight at one shot, and I tell myself its easier to keep off since it has come off slowly for a year and a half.


Np here. I have 40 pounds to lose and this sounds like a reasonable approach for me. I did Atkins (basically Keto, I guess) 15 years ago, when I was single and childless, and though it was really effective for weight loss, it is unsustainable for me now as a working mom already short on patience. It also make me feel physically sick (weak, bad breath, etc.). Anyway, thanks for sharing and congrats on your success!
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