Farrakhan Speaker Concludes Anti-Semitic Remarks with "Jews are Termites" at Trayon Support Rally

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to come of this unfortunately, it will blow over. Sadly, NOI and other anti-Jewish organizations are really normal here. I mean, have you not ever listened to 1450 WOL AM radio? They say much much worse on there. They have meetings and conferences in NE DC all the time-at a child care center that rents their space out to black nationalist organizations while not in use for daycare. It’s pretty appalling. Signed, not Jewish, atheist, but believe we should all be tolerant of each other.

OP here, and no....haven't listened to that radio station. (I don't. think I'll start, either.) What makes the whole thing worse with the NOI and other black nationalist groups is that they of all people should be aware of the harm that bigotry against minority groups cause. And yet here they are, objecting to the bigotry against blacks while perpetuating it against Jews. Disgusting.

I was searching for childcare years ago, and the CHILD center on Riggs road is near, but after researching them and finding out their connections to NOI, Positive Kimetic Visions, and the Nawaupian movement (which I never had knowledge about before), it was really troubling. I just don’t know how they would treat non-African American children there. Honestly, I wouldn’t have put my child in there care for other reasons, but I was amazed at what I found out about them.

https://m.facebook.com/Positive-Kemetic-Visions-299545233443840/

I just checked your link and. I agree.....I would not put a non-AA child in that center. I also couldn't help noticing that one of Positive Kemetic Vision's events was headlined by Abdul Mohammed - the very antisemite who called Jews "termites" on Thursday.

Wow, I’m the PP who posted the link, I didn’t even realize the connection!

Yup. (I'm the OP.) Can you imagine if a Jewish group proudly hailed that a major racist was headlining one of their events? And although I know we can't force private groups, such as this PKV, from warmly embracing anti-Semites, and, unfortunately, poisoning young minds, the very fact the DC Council has an openly blatant anti-Semite among its ranks - and seems to be OK with him remaining - does enable this private groups to advance their anti-Jew rhetoric too.

Still the OP, and I am emphasizing my own line above. This is why it is critical for the DC Council to take a firm stand and fire Lopez and pressure White to resign for their failure to condemn blatant anti-Semitism, and in doing so, reveal their own. Otherwise, we have tacit acceptance of anti-Semitism among DC public officials - and bigoted organizations like PKV and NOI will take it as a little "wink" to continue with their anti-white and anti-Jew bigotry.

Yep, and even ramp it up a bit to see how far they can go.

Yes, and we saw that with Trayon. Look at how far he is pushing it! He got away with the Rothschild's conspiracy theory (I am among those who does not believe a magna cum laude college graduate who ALSO associates with bigtime bigots like Farrakahn didn't know what he was saying).....then he got away with some lie about a meeting to duck out of the Holocaust tour......he made a remark about the ghetto being a "gated community" (those rich Jews, right?) ....and he barely gets a slap on the wrist.

And now, at a rally hosted in his name, a despicable Farrakhan bigot launches an anti-Jew attack, and Trayon refuses to condemn his remarks or even COMMENT on it. (The WaPo tried but was given an indifferent no comment.) His tweeter page (I haven't checked this afternoon but as of this morning) simply had a big "THANK YOU" to his constituents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Antisemitism just never goes away.

What made you believe it ever would?

There could be five Jewish people left on the planet and they would still be scapegoated by loons on both sides of the political spectrum.

A great topic for a thread is WHY Jewish people are scapegoated, now and throughout history, despite the fact they contribute to society and have some values worth emulating. The problem is....such a discussion would bring out the bigots bigtime and become a disaster in short order. No can do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. Only 15 responses to this horrific show of antisemitism, and half of them were mine.

Apparently, the muted response shows that there is no defense to this incident - why didn't Lopez just lower the megaphone when the Farrakhan speaker starting spewing his venom, and why didn't White condemn the remarks? - and that in the face of blatant "Jew-hatred," there is deafening silence from (some) DC politicians and, based on the input here, DC residents as well. (In fairness, Jeff did express outrage, but most of DCUM, shhhhhh......)

How different from the response to the "questionable" actions and behavior of White, to whom much of DCUM raced to defend. That's because with White, up until yesterday when he appears to agree with the Farrakhan supporter by refusing to condemn him, one could bend into a pretzel and give the guy the benefit of the doubt. The vast majority of DC is comprised of liberals, and particularly DC officials, who portend to object to bigotry. Why then is there such silence when BLATANTLY anti-Semitic speech (termites? really?) is put forth? Is antisemitism "an OK" form of bigotry?

Lopez....OUT! White....RESIGN! And the DC Council, along width severing all ties to Farrakhan, should issue apologies to the Jewish people and ensure them that such bigotry will not be tolerated in our city.

Ain’t nobody rushing to defend that fool who grabbed the bullhorn because his conduct and remarks were reprehensible. Nobody condones that. The silence in and of itself is a rebuke and DCUM posters have for all intents and purposes said, “He’s all yours...we’re not speaking out in his defense”, so you got free reign to tear him up to your hearts content.
Now if that’s not sufficient and if what you really want is another 40+ page drawn out debate then it’s simple - just follow the example of some of the posters from the other thread and try to turn this into an indictment on the people of Ward 8 specifically or try to make this a condemnation of all black Washingtonians in general. If you looking for some heated discussion go ‘head and break out the sweeping generalizations on entire communities because of one uninvited jackass’s antics and the punk ass politician who let him speak.

Except it's more - MUCH MORE - than one uninvited jackass and the punk ass politician who let him speak. The fact that you are minimizing the degree to which anti-Semitism is overlooked here in DC is part and parcel of the problem.

It is ALSO Trayon, who should have jumped at the opportunity to condemn the "jackass," especially in light of his questionable comments and behavior regarding Jews last week, and yet....he has refused to condemn him. But the real problem is that the DC Council appears to be willing to look past his anti-Semitism and in doing so signaling that anti-Semitism, if not actually encouraged, certainly is nothing that warrants any actions when it occurs at the leadership level. Combine that with the fact that DC grant money supports programs hosted or run by blatant anti-Semites, and there's a message being sent that bigotry against Jews is no big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Only 15 responses to this horrific show of antisemitism, and half of them were mine.

Apparently, the muted response shows that there is no defense to this incident - why didn't Lopez just lower the megaphone when the Farrakhan speaker starting spewing his venom, and why didn't White condemn the remarks? - and that in the face of blatant "Jew-hatred," there is deafening silence from (some) DC politicians and, based on the input here, DC residents as well. (In fairness, Jeff did express outrage, but most of DCUM, shhhhhh......)

How different from the response to the "questionable" actions and behavior of White, to whom much of DCUM raced to defend. That's because with White, up until yesterday when he appears to agree with the Farrakhan supporter by refusing to condemn him, one could bend into a pretzel and give the guy the benefit of the doubt. The vast majority of DC is comprised of liberals, and particularly DC officials, who portend to object to bigotry. Why then is there such silence when BLATANTLY anti-Semitic speech (termites? really?) is put forth? Is antisemitism "an OK" form of bigotry?

Lopez....OUT! White....RESIGN! And the DC Council, along width severing all ties to Farrakhan, should issue apologies to the Jewish people and ensure them that such bigotry will not be tolerated in our city.

Ain’t nobody rushing to defend that fool who grabbed the bullhorn because his conduct and remarks were reprehensible. Nobody condones that. The silence in and of itself is a rebuke and DCUM posters have for all intents and purposes said, “He’s all yours...we’re not speaking out in his defense”, so you got free reign to tear him up to your hearts content.
Now if that’s not sufficient and if what you really want is another 40+ page drawn out debate then it’s simple - just follow the example of some of the posters from the other thread and try to turn this into an indictment on the people of Ward 8 specifically or try to make this a condemnation of all black Washingtonians in general. If you looking for some heated discussion go ‘head and break out the sweeping generalizations on entire communities because of one uninvited jackass’s antics and the punk ass politician who let him speak.

Except it's more - MUCH MORE - than one uninvited jackass and the punk ass politician who let him speak. The fact that you are minimizing the degree to which anti-Semitism is overlooked here in DC is part and parcel of the problem.

It is ALSO Trayon, who should have jumped at the opportunity to condemn the "jackass," especially in light of his questionable comments and behavior regarding Jews last week, and yet....he has refused to condemn him. But the real problem is that the DC Council appears to be willing to look past his anti-Semitism and in doing so signaling that anti-Semitism, if not actually encouraged, certainly is nothing that warrants any actions when it occurs at the leadership level. Combine that with the fact that DC grant money supports programs hosted or run by blatant anti-Semites, and there's a message being sent that bigotry against Jews is no big deal.

Let’s hope the counter-message being sent doesn’t turn into resentment towards black Washingtonians.

[Anonymous]

What is it with blacks against Jews? I don't even understand how they could even bother each other.

[Anonymous]

Oh, the white folks hate the black folks
And the black folks hate the white folks
To hate all but the right folks is an old established rule

But during National Brotherhood Week
National Brotherhood Week
Lena Horne and Sheriff Clark are dancing cheek to cheek
It's fun to eulogize the people you despise
As long you don't let them in your school

Oh, the poor folks, hate the rich folks
And the rich folks hate the poor folks
All of my folks hate all of your folks
It's American as apple pie

But during... National Brotherhood Week
National Brotherhood Week
New Yorkers love the Puerto Ricans cause it's very chic
Stand up and shake the hand of someone you can't stand
You can tolerate him if you try

Oh the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants
And the Hindus hate the Muslims
And everybody hates the Jews,

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
It's National "Everyone-Smile-At-One-Another-hood" Week,
Be nice to people who are inferior to you
It's only for a week so have no fear
Be grateful that it doesn't last all year

- National Brotherhood Week
Tom Lehrer
Album - That Was The Year That Was

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Only 15 responses to this horrific show of antisemitism, and half of them were mine.

Apparently, the muted response shows that there is no defense to this incident - why didn't Lopez just lower the megaphone when the Farrakhan speaker starting spewing his venom, and why didn't White condemn the remarks? - and that in the face of blatant "Jew-hatred," there is deafening silence from (some) DC politicians and, based on the input here, DC residents as well. (In fairness, Jeff did express outrage, but most of DCUM, shhhhhh......)

How different from the response to the "questionable" actions and behavior of White, to whom much of DCUM raced to defend. That's because with White, up until yesterday when he appears to agree with the Farrakhan supporter by refusing to condemn him, one could bend into a pretzel and give the guy the benefit of the doubt. The vast majority of DC is comprised of liberals, and particularly DC officials, who portend to object to bigotry. Why then is there such silence when BLATANTLY anti-Semitic speech (termites? really?) is put forth? Is antisemitism "an OK" form of bigotry?

Lopez....OUT! White....RESIGN! And the DC Council, along width severing all ties to Farrakhan, should issue apologies to the Jewish people and ensure them that such bigotry will not be tolerated in our city.

Ain’t nobody rushing to defend that fool who grabbed the bullhorn because his conduct and remarks were reprehensible. Nobody condones that. The silence in and of itself is a rebuke and DCUM posters have for all intents and purposes said, “He’s all yours...we’re not speaking out in his defense”, so you got free reign to tear him up to your hearts content.
Now if that’s not sufficient and if what you really want is another 40+ page drawn out debate then it’s simple - just follow the example of some of the posters from the other thread and try to turn this into an indictment on the people of Ward 8 specifically or try to make this a condemnation of all black Washingtonians in general. If you looking for some heated discussion go ‘head and break out the sweeping generalizations on entire communities because of one uninvited jackass’s antics and the punk ass politician who let him speak.

Except it's more - MUCH MORE - than one uninvited jackass and the punk ass politician who let him speak. The fact that you are minimizing the degree to which anti-Semitism is overlooked here in DC is part and parcel of the problem.

It is ALSO Trayon, who should have jumped at the opportunity to condemn the "jackass," especially in light of his questionable comments and behavior regarding Jews last week, and yet....he has refused to condemn him. But the real problem is that the DC Council appears to be willing to look past his anti-Semitism and in doing so signaling that anti-Semitism, if not actually encouraged, certainly is nothing that warrants any actions when it occurs at the leadership level. Combine that with the fact that DC grant money supports programs hosted or run by blatant anti-Semites, and there's a message being sent that bigotry against Jews is no big deal.

Let’s hope the counter-message being sent doesn’t turn into resentment towards black Washingtonians.

What counter-message? That antisemtism by DC public officials will not be tolerated by the mayor or the council? It sounds as if you're saying that the DC Council should soft-peddle antisemitism if it occurs among black leaders because taking a strong stand against bigots could engender resentment to all blacks.

And even THAT shows a problem: let's not make a big deal about antisemites in official DC positions, who happen to be black, because it might not be good for black Washingtonians. Would you then say that if antisemtitism were advanced by a white DC official, we could come down harder?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is it with blacks against Jews? I don't even understand how they could even bother each other.

You saying it’s some kind of prerequisite for all blacks?
What do you think in between eating watermelons and getting locked up that it’s a part of black culture to hate Jews?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Only 15 responses to this horrific show of antisemitism, and half of them were mine.

Apparently, the muted response shows that there is no defense to this incident - why didn't Lopez just lower the megaphone when the Farrakhan speaker starting spewing his venom, and why didn't White condemn the remarks? - and that in the face of blatant "Jew-hatred," there is deafening silence from (some) DC politicians and, based on the input here, DC residents as well. (In fairness, Jeff did express outrage, but most of DCUM, shhhhhh......)

How different from the response to the "questionable" actions and behavior of White, to whom much of DCUM raced to defend. That's because with White, up until yesterday when he appears to agree with the Farrakhan supporter by refusing to condemn him, one could bend into a pretzel and give the guy the benefit of the doubt. The vast majority of DC is comprised of liberals, and particularly DC officials, who portend to object to bigotry. Why then is there such silence when BLATANTLY anti-Semitic speech (termites? really?) is put forth? Is antisemitism "an OK" form of bigotry?

Lopez....OUT! White....RESIGN! And the DC Council, along width severing all ties to Farrakhan, should issue apologies to the Jewish people and ensure them that such bigotry will not be tolerated in our city.

Ain’t nobody rushing to defend that fool who grabbed the bullhorn because his conduct and remarks were reprehensible. Nobody condones that. The silence in and of itself is a rebuke and DCUM posters have for all intents and purposes said, “He’s all yours...we’re not speaking out in his defense”, so you got free reign to tear him up to your hearts content.
Now if that’s not sufficient and if what you really want is another 40+ page drawn out debate then it’s simple - just follow the example of some of the posters from the other thread and try to turn this into an indictment on the people of Ward 8 specifically or try to make this a condemnation of all black Washingtonians in general. If you looking for some heated discussion go ‘head and break out the sweeping generalizations on entire communities because of one uninvited jackass’s antics and the punk ass politician who let him speak.

Except it's more - MUCH MORE - than one uninvited jackass and the punk ass politician who let him speak. The fact that you are minimizing the degree to which anti-Semitism is overlooked here in DC is part and parcel of the problem.

It is ALSO Trayon, who should have jumped at the opportunity to condemn the "jackass," especially in light of his questionable comments and behavior regarding Jews last week, and yet....he has refused to condemn him. But the real problem is that the DC Council appears to be willing to look past his anti-Semitism and in doing so signaling that anti-Semitism, if not actually encouraged, certainly is nothing that warrants any actions when it occurs at the leadership level. Combine that with the fact that DC grant money supports programs hosted or run by blatant anti-Semites, and there's a message being sent that bigotry against Jews is no big deal.

Let’s hope the counter-message being sent doesn’t turn into resentment towards black Washingtonians.

What counter-message? That antisemtism by DC public officials will not be tolerated by the mayor or the council? It sounds as if you're saying that the DC Council should soft-peddle antisemitism if it occurs among black leaders because taking a strong stand against bigots could engender resentment to all blacks.

And even THAT shows a problem: let's not make a big deal about antisemites in official DC positions, who happen to be black, because it might not be good for black Washingtonians. Would you then say that if antisemtitism were advanced by a white DC official, we could come down harder?

I’m saying let’s hope the response stays focused on the public officials and doesn’t get deflected onto the entire black community.
Problem?

[Anonymous]

OP here. (I keep forgetting to identify myself.....)

Elisa Silverman is calling for the firing of Joshua Lopez, which I believe sends the message to all Washungtonians, black and white, that bigotry against ANY group is unacceptable. In this case, the bigotry was against Jews, and that is no more acceptable than bigoty against Muslims, blacks, gays, and others subject to prejudice.

I just wish she would call for the resignation of White, as well, who has revealed himself to be sympathetic to hateful antisemites.

https://wtop.com/dc/2018/04/dc-council-member-wants-action-anti-semitic-remarks/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. (I keep forgetting to identify myself.....)

Elisa Silverman is calling for the firing of Joshua Lopez, which I believe sends the message to all Washungtonians, black and white, that bigotry against ANY group is unacceptable. In this case, the bigotry was against Jews, and that is no more acceptable than bigoty against Muslims, blacks, gays, and others subject to prejudice.

I just wish she would call for the resignation of White, as well, who has revealed himself to be sympathetic to hateful antisemites.

https://wtop.com/dc/2018/04/dc-council-member-wants-action-anti-semitic-remarks/

Good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Only 15 responses to this horrific show of antisemitism, and half of them were mine.

Apparently, the muted response shows that there is no defense to this incident - why didn't Lopez just lower the megaphone when the Farrakhan speaker starting spewing his venom, and why didn't White condemn the remarks? - and that in the face of blatant "Jew-hatred," there is deafening silence from (some) DC politicians and, based on the input here, DC residents as well. (In fairness, Jeff did express outrage, but most of DCUM, shhhhhh......)

How different from the response to the "questionable" actions and behavior of White, to whom much of DCUM raced to defend. That's because with White, up until yesterday when he appears to agree with the Farrakhan supporter by refusing to condemn him, one could bend into a pretzel and give the guy the benefit of the doubt. The vast majority of DC is comprised of liberals, and particularly DC officials, who portend to object to bigotry. Why then is there such silence when BLATANTLY anti-Semitic speech (termites? really?) is put forth? Is antisemitism "an OK" form of bigotry?

Lopez....OUT! White....RESIGN! And the DC Council, along width severing all ties to Farrakhan, should issue apologies to the Jewish people and ensure them that such bigotry will not be tolerated in our city.

Ain’t nobody rushing to defend that fool who grabbed the bullhorn because his conduct and remarks were reprehensible. Nobody condones that. The silence in and of itself is a rebuke and DCUM posters have for all intents and purposes said, “He’s all yours...we’re not speaking out in his defense”, so you got free reign to tear him up to your hearts content.
Now if that’s not sufficient and if what you really want is another 40+ page drawn out debate then it’s simple - just follow the example of some of the posters from the other thread and try to turn this into an indictment on the people of Ward 8 specifically or try to make this a condemnation of all black Washingtonians in general. If you looking for some heated discussion go ‘head and break out the sweeping generalizations on entire communities because of one uninvited jackass’s antics and the punk ass politician who let him speak.

Except it's more - MUCH MORE - than one uninvited jackass and the punk ass politician who let him speak. The fact that you are minimizing the degree to which anti-Semitism is overlooked here in DC is part and parcel of the problem.

It is ALSO Trayon, who should have jumped at the opportunity to condemn the "jackass," especially in light of his questionable comments and behavior regarding Jews last week, and yet....he has refused to condemn him. But the real problem is that the DC Council appears to be willing to look past his anti-Semitism and in doing so signaling that anti-Semitism, if not actually encouraged, certainly is nothing that warrants any actions when it occurs at the leadership level. Combine that with the fact that DC grant money supports programs hosted or run by blatant anti-Semites, and there's a message being sent that bigotry against Jews is no big deal.

Let’s hope the counter-message being sent doesn’t turn into resentment towards black Washingtonians.

What counter-message? That antisemtism by DC public officials will not be tolerated by the mayor or the council? It sounds as if you're saying that the DC Council should soft-peddle antisemitism if it occurs among black leaders because taking a strong stand against bigots could engender resentment to all blacks.

And even THAT shows a problem: let's not make a big deal about antisemites in official DC positions, who happen to be black, because it might not be good for black Washingtonians. Would you then say that if antisemtitism were advanced by a white DC official, we could come down harder?

I’m saying let’s hope the response stays focused on the public officials and doesn’t get deflected onto the entire black community.
Problem?

You see that my focus is on those in official DC positions, as stated above. That's where the problem lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Only 15 responses to this horrific show of antisemitism, and half of them were mine.

Apparently, the muted response shows that there is no defense to this incident - why didn't Lopez just lower the megaphone when the Farrakhan speaker starting spewing his venom, and why didn't White condemn the remarks? - and that in the face of blatant "Jew-hatred," there is deafening silence from (some) DC politicians and, based on the input here, DC residents as well. (In fairness, Jeff did express outrage, but most of DCUM, shhhhhh......)

How different from the response to the "questionable" actions and behavior of White, to whom much of DCUM raced to defend. That's because with White, up until yesterday when he appears to agree with the Farrakhan supporter by refusing to condemn him, one could bend into a pretzel and give the guy the benefit of the doubt. The vast majority of DC is comprised of liberals, and particularly DC officials, who portend to object to bigotry. Why then is there such silence when BLATANTLY anti-Semitic speech (termites? really?) is put forth? Is antisemitism "an OK" form of bigotry?

Lopez....OUT! White....RESIGN! And the DC Council, along width severing all ties to Farrakhan, should issue apologies to the Jewish people and ensure them that such bigotry will not be tolerated in our city.

Ain’t nobody rushing to defend that fool who grabbed the bullhorn because his conduct and remarks were reprehensible. Nobody condones that. The silence in and of itself is a rebuke and DCUM posters have for all intents and purposes said, “He’s all yours...we’re not speaking out in his defense”, so you got free reign to tear him up to your hearts content.
Now if that’s not sufficient and if what you really want is another 40+ page drawn out debate then it’s simple - just follow the example of some of the posters from the other thread and try to turn this into an indictment on the people of Ward 8 specifically or try to make this a condemnation of all black Washingtonians in general. If you looking for some heated discussion go ‘head and break out the sweeping generalizations on entire communities because of one uninvited jackass’s antics and the punk ass politician who let him speak.

Except it's more - MUCH MORE - than one uninvited jackass and the punk ass politician who let him speak. The fact that you are minimizing the degree to which anti-Semitism is overlooked here in DC is part and parcel of the problem.

It is ALSO Trayon, who should have jumped at the opportunity to condemn the "jackass," especially in light of his questionable comments and behavior regarding Jews last week, and yet....he has refused to condemn him. But the real problem is that the DC Council appears to be willing to look past his anti-Semitism and in doing so signaling that anti-Semitism, if not actually encouraged, certainly is nothing that warrants any actions when it occurs at the leadership level. Combine that with the fact that DC grant money supports programs hosted or run by blatant anti-Semites, and there's a message being sent that bigotry against Jews is no big deal.

Let’s hope the counter-message being sent doesn’t turn into resentment towards black Washingtonians.

What counter-message? That antisemtism by DC public officials will not be tolerated by the mayor or the council? It sounds as if you're saying that the DC Council should soft-peddle antisemitism if it occurs among black leaders because taking a strong stand against bigots could engender resentment to all blacks.

And even THAT shows a problem: let's not make a big deal about antisemites in official DC positions, who happen to be black, because it might not be good for black Washingtonians. Would you then say that if antisemtitism were advanced by a white DC official, we could come down harder?

I’m saying let’s hope the response stays focused on the public officials and doesn’t get deflected onto the entire black community.
Problem?

Similarly, I hope the ouster of Lopez doesn't get deflected into resentment of the entire Jewish community, who, after all, were the ones called termites by a disgusting human being - while Lopez held the megaphone for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Only 15 responses to this horrific show of antisemitism, and half of them were mine.

Apparently, the muted response shows that there is no defense to this incident - why didn't Lopez just lower the megaphone when the Farrakhan speaker starting spewing his venom, and why didn't White condemn the remarks? - and that in the face of blatant "Jew-hatred," there is deafening silence from (some) DC politicians and, based on the input here, DC residents as well. (In fairness, Jeff did express outrage, but most of DCUM, shhhhhh......)

How different from the response to the "questionable" actions and behavior of White, to whom much of DCUM raced to defend. That's because with White, up until yesterday when he appears to agree with the Farrakhan supporter by refusing to condemn him, one could bend into a pretzel and give the guy the benefit of the doubt. The vast majority of DC is comprised of liberals, and particularly DC officials, who portend to object to bigotry. Why then is there such silence when BLATANTLY anti-Semitic speech (termites? really?) is put forth? Is antisemitism "an OK" form of bigotry?

Lopez....OUT! White....RESIGN! And the DC Council, along width severing all ties to Farrakhan, should issue apologies to the Jewish people and ensure them that such bigotry will not be tolerated in our city.

Ain’t nobody rushing to defend that fool who grabbed the bullhorn because his conduct and remarks were reprehensible. Nobody condones that. The silence in and of itself is a rebuke and DCUM posters have for all intents and purposes said, “He’s all yours...we’re not speaking out in his defense”, so you got free reign to tear him up to your hearts content.
Now if that’s not sufficient and if what you really want is another 40+ page drawn out debate then it’s simple - just follow the example of some of the posters from the other thread and try to turn this into an indictment on the people of Ward 8 specifically or try to make this a condemnation of all black Washingtonians in general. If you looking for some heated discussion go ‘head and break out the sweeping generalizations on entire communities because of one uninvited jackass’s antics and the punk ass politician who let him speak.

Except it's more - MUCH MORE - than one uninvited jackass and the punk ass politician who let him speak. The fact that you are minimizing the degree to which anti-Semitism is overlooked here in DC is part and parcel of the problem.

It is ALSO Trayon, who should have jumped at the opportunity to condemn the "jackass," especially in light of his questionable comments and behavior regarding Jews last week, and yet....he has refused to condemn him. But the real problem is that the DC Council appears to be willing to look past his anti-Semitism and in doing so signaling that anti-Semitism, if not actually encouraged, certainly is nothing that warrants any actions when it occurs at the leadership level. Combine that with the fact that DC grant money supports programs hosted or run by blatant anti-Semites, and there's a message being sent that bigotry against Jews is no big deal.

Let’s hope the counter-message being sent doesn’t turn into resentment towards black Washingtonians.

What counter-message? That antisemtism by DC public officials will not be tolerated by the mayor or the council? It sounds as if you're saying that the DC Council should soft-peddle antisemitism if it occurs among black leaders because taking a strong stand against bigots could engender resentment to all blacks.

And even THAT shows a problem: let's not make a big deal about antisemites in official DC positions, who happen to be black, because it might not be good for black Washingtonians. Would you then say that if antisemtitism were advanced by a white DC official, we could come down harder?

I’m saying let’s hope the response stays focused on the public officials and doesn’t get deflected onto the entire black community.
Problem?

Fair enough. But it does seem like the issue goes a little deeper into the far-left black community leaders, like Tamika Mallory, who are stubbornly unable to disavow antisemitism and the NOI's antisemitism. It's not just public officials. For whatever reasons, anti-semitic language has been allowed to persist in certain black radical circles, and leaks over into more mainstream black leaders associating with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Only 15 responses to this horrific show of antisemitism, and half of them were mine.

Apparently, the muted response shows that there is no defense to this incident - why didn't Lopez just lower the megaphone when the Farrakhan speaker starting spewing his venom, and why didn't White condemn the remarks? - and that in the face of blatant "Jew-hatred," there is deafening silence from (some) DC politicians and, based on the input here, DC residents as well. (In fairness, Jeff did express outrage, but most of DCUM, shhhhhh......)

How different from the response to the "questionable" actions and behavior of White, to whom much of DCUM raced to defend. That's because with White, up until yesterday when he appears to agree with the Farrakhan supporter by refusing to condemn him, one could bend into a pretzel and give the guy the benefit of the doubt. The vast majority of DC is comprised of liberals, and particularly DC officials, who portend to object to bigotry. Why then is there such silence when BLATANTLY anti-Semitic speech (termites? really?) is put forth? Is antisemitism "an OK" form of bigotry?

Lopez....OUT! White....RESIGN! And the DC Council, along width severing all ties to Farrakhan, should issue apologies to the Jewish people and ensure them that such bigotry will not be tolerated in our city.

Ain’t nobody rushing to defend that fool who grabbed the bullhorn because his conduct and remarks were reprehensible. Nobody condones that. The silence in and of itself is a rebuke and DCUM posters have for all intents and purposes said, “He’s all yours...we’re not speaking out in his defense”, so you got free reign to tear him up to your hearts content.
Now if that’s not sufficient and if what you really want is another 40+ page drawn out debate then it’s simple - just follow the example of some of the posters from the other thread and try to turn this into an indictment on the people of Ward 8 specifically or try to make this a condemnation of all black Washingtonians in general. If you looking for some heated discussion go ‘head and break out the sweeping generalizations on entire communities because of one uninvited jackass’s antics and the punk ass politician who let him speak.

Except it's more - MUCH MORE - than one uninvited jackass and the punk ass politician who let him speak. The fact that you are minimizing the degree to which anti-Semitism is overlooked here in DC is part and parcel of the problem.

It is ALSO Trayon, who should have jumped at the opportunity to condemn the "jackass," especially in light of his questionable comments and behavior regarding Jews last week, and yet....he has refused to condemn him. But the real problem is that the DC Council appears to be willing to look past his anti-Semitism and in doing so signaling that anti-Semitism, if not actually encouraged, certainly is nothing that warrants any actions when it occurs at the leadership level. Combine that with the fact that DC grant money supports programs hosted or run by blatant anti-Semites, and there's a message being sent that bigotry against Jews is no big deal.

Let’s hope the counter-message being sent doesn’t turn into resentment towards black Washingtonians.

What counter-message? That antisemtism by DC public officials will not be tolerated by the mayor or the council? It sounds as if you're saying that the DC Council should soft-peddle antisemitism if it occurs among black leaders because taking a strong stand against bigots could engender resentment to all blacks.

And even THAT shows a problem: let's not make a big deal about antisemites in official DC positions, who happen to be black, because it might not be good for black Washingtonians. Would you then say that if antisemtitism were advanced by a white DC official, we could come down harder?

I’m saying let’s hope the response stays focused on the public officials and doesn’t get deflected onto the entire black community.
Problem?

Fair enough. But it does seem like the issue goes a little deeper into the far-left black community leaders, like Tamika Mallory, who are stubbornly unable to disavow antisemitism and the NOI's antisemitism. It's not just public officials. For whatever reasons, anti-semitic language has been allowed to persist in certain black radical circles, and leaks over into more mainstream black leaders associating with them.

OP here. There's a lot of truth in what you say, and I see mainstream black leaders' association with Farrakhan and his co-conspirators - in those instances where it occurs - as the root of the problem. We've had posters here point out that Farrakhan does some good for poor black communities, but that does not overcome the antisemtitc venom he spews and the hatred he spreads.

As the saying goes, you lie down with dogs and you rise up with fleas, and we see that with Trayon and the example you brought up - Tamika Mallory. DC needs to completely sever its relationship with the NOI, and that should include grants to organization with ties to Farrakhan, as well.