S/O- how diverse is your kid's friend group?

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Anonymous wrote:There was a post a few years ago with a list of colleges having the largest or fewest number of Jewish students. That discussion was deleted or locked. Asking that was triggering for some. A university like Columbia is about 35% Jewish. That means there are 65 % other, so while there are Jews on campus, obviously, there are plenty of on-Jews. How is writing that racist? Some people.

If you truly car about justice for Palestine, what is wrong with seeking a university with the fewest number of Jewish students?

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Anonymous wrote:Since the key criteria here seems to be finding a good fit, which in this case means a good majority of diverse learners, have you visited the many, excellent, HBCUs?

+1

Can’t get more diverse than that.

Do you understand the word diverse?

I’m not the one you’re replying to. But “they” always define diversity as the % non-white (sometimes non-white plus non-Asian).

Why don’t you compose a spreadsheet of the figures from their CDS?

Diverse means not having all white or all black or all Asian or all Hispanic friend... it's means diverse.

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re open-minded, you’ll naturally have a group of different friends. Must be exhausting to pigeonhole humans based on their economic, social, or racial classes.

No. If you are raised somewhere that no diverse people live you have no opportunity. Like I don't have any Somalian friends, or Serbian or most my friends are my religion, with interests in my hobbies and live in my state and went to the same schools.

Diversity is pretty hard actually.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a post a few years ago with a list of colleges having the largest or fewest number of Jewish students. That discussion was deleted or locked. Asking that was triggering for some. A university like Columbia is about 35% Jewish. That means there are 65 % other, so while there are Jews on campus, obviously, there are plenty of on-Jews. How is writing that racist? Some people.

If you truly car about justice for Palestine, what is wrong with seeking a university with the fewest number of Jewish students?

Because Jewish does not equal Isreal.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here—this isn’t lame. I have a white kid who goes to a diverse HS and has a very diverse friend group who has noticed when there is a significantly higher percentage of white kids at some of the universities we have toured. This is something that they have been keeping in mind when looking at where they will land.

Why don’t you name and shame those top colleges? 😉

Well, if you read my post closely, I didn’t mention top (OP did) and I also didn’t give it a quality of good/bad. It’s just how my kids grew up and it’s what feels normal to them and so they took it into consideration when applying. No need to shame, that’s now how I work. I was responding to the pp who called op “lame” and I didn’t want op to think that everyone thought he/she was lame.

I am a separate poster, but my kid noticed it at Delaware and Pitt when we toured. Ended up at Mason for a number of reasons where yes, his friend group is diverse (as is the student body.) He came from a HS that was less than 15% white (he is white) so seeing very few kids of color was noticeable.

This is fair. I mean, its an important consideration for learners seeking refuge from the white-gaze.

lol. What will people come up with next?

[Anonymous]

This is our kids’ experience. They attended a 50%+ URM (mostly Latino), high FARMS high school. We are Latino as well (both parents raised in Latin America), but not FARMS, and were able to support our kids’ many extracurriculars-mostly sports. Their friend groups in high school were mostly non-URMs because those were the students they met/crossed paths with the most in advanced classes, club sports and other ECs.

One of our kids is at UVA, while most of their friend group is white, they do have friends from different backgrounds: Black, East Asian, Middle Eastern, South Asian. Their Greek organization, is probably about 20% non-White.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a post a few years ago with a list of colleges having the largest or fewest number of Jewish students. That discussion was deleted or locked. Asking that was triggering for some. A university like Columbia is about 35% Jewish. That means there are 65 % other, so while there are Jews on campus, obviously, there are plenty of on-Jews. How is writing that racist? Some people.

If you truly car about justice for Palestine, what is wrong with seeking a university with the fewest number of Jewish students?

Dunno. Then people suggested Liberty Univ. People are becoming more and more easily triggered.

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Anonymous wrote:Lame

State your race when you reply. I’m trying to see something

You might want to go back and study AP Stats or at least, statistical significance and a normal population sample.

Anecdotes from DCUM will not prove anything.

You sound like Tim Robinson in the drive through line "I'm DOING something...." 55 burgers, 55 fries....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is our kids’ experience. They attended a 50%+ URM (mostly Latino), high FARMS high school. We are Latino as well (both parents raised in Latin America), but not FARMS, and were able to support our kids’ many extracurriculars-mostly sports. Their friend groups in high school were mostly non-URMs because those were the students they met/crossed paths with the most in advanced classes, club sports and other ECs.

One of our kids is at UVA, while most of their friend group is white, they do have friends from different backgrounds: Black, East Asian, Middle Eastern, South Asian. Their Greek organization, is probably about 20% non-White.

Thank you, and I appreciate your sharing of your lived-experience; I truly do. Could you, however, try to be a little more inclusive, by use of Latinx in place of “Latino” ? It is important.

TIA !

[Anonymous]

This is something that's fairly easy to google, OP. On Niche, they rate colleges and give letter grades for diversity- not sure how accurate they truly reflect the study body, but student reviews on that site are helpful, too. Dig into the CDS for schools you're researching- you'll find demographic info there. I applaud you for seeking out a diverse student experience. My D26 is only looking at LACs, and when we visited Kenyon, we were sitting in the dining hall eating lunch and my DD looked around and said, 'wow, everyone here is really white." So it's definitely something that is important to some kids.

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Anonymous wrote:This is something that's fairly easy to google, OP. On Niche, they rate colleges and give letter grades for diversity- not sure how accurate they truly reflect the study body, but student reviews on that site are helpful, too. Dig into the CDS for schools you're researching- you'll find demographic info there. I applaud you for seeking out a diverse student experience. My D26 is only looking at LACs, and when we visited Kenyon, we were sitting in the dining hall eating lunch and my DD looked around and said, 'wow, everyone here is really white." So it's definitely something that is important to some kids.

Those ratings are only based on how hard a school pushes diversity; not how many diverse students are actually on campus.

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Diverse means having different majors, a mix of arts and techies or supporting different ideologies

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Anonymous wrote:This is our kids’ experience. They attended a 50%+ URM (mostly Latino), high FARMS high school. We are Latino as well (both parents raised in Latin America), but not FARMS, and were able to support our kids’ many extracurriculars-mostly sports. Their friend groups in high school were mostly non-URMs because those were the students they met/crossed paths with the most in advanced classes, club sports and other ECs.

One of our kids is at UVA, while most of their friend group is white, they do have friends from different backgrounds: Black, East Asian, Middle Eastern, South Asian. Their Greek organization, is probably about 20% non-White.

Thank you, and I appreciate your sharing of your lived-experience; I truly do. Could you, however, try to be a little more inclusive, by use of Latinx in place of “Latino” ? It is important.

TIA !

I respect people that use the term Latinx, however, having attended most of my education in a Spanish speaking country, I was taught that the ending “o” in gendered terms, includes female and male, and all in between. I will not make a fuss over people using “x”, but as a GenX here, I will stick to using “o” and “a”.

My kid is getting a Spanish minor and gets very distracted by the use of “x” in terms such as “alumnxs” or “hermanxs” in texts.

I have no issue with people using their preferred pronouns either. I am very glad that is a thing now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Diverse means having different majors, a mix of arts and techies or supporting different ideologies

It can mean all of that, plus ethnic, religious, racial and sexual orientation diversity.

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Anonymous wrote:Diverse means having different majors, a mix of arts and techies or supporting different ideologies

It can mean all of that, plus ethnic, religious, racial and sexual orientation diversity.

Yes, it can and does mean inclusion of those groups.

but it does NOT include political diversity, in any way, shape, or form!