She exhibited good analytical skills and had a good idea what she wanted and what her partner was capable of as a husband and father. So what if her parents still provided some financial support. She's more traditional than you, and that's okay. Lucky her that she has wealthy, loving parents. The problem, which she saw but needed some help identifying for what it was, is that her partner is not that into her. |
Gen Z and young millennials are more traditional than their elders so not a big surprise. PP is a boomer so doesn’t get it. |
Sure. That makes about as much sense as anything from a demented cat lady. |
I can’t even understand the argument the two of you are having. Can one of you break it down for me? |
Clearly she doesn't have good analytical skills based on her situation. She's either unreasonable or gullible. |
Cat lady thinks it's "weird" for a woman to propose marriage. |
I got the sense she was moving in, but was questioning the wisdom of doing so. She reached out to DCUM to see what people had to say about her situation. That's wise of her, despite her age. Maybe she doesn't have the kind of friends to give it to her straight. I think DCUM for the most part (with a couple of troll exceptions) gave it to her straight. |
Dcum is never a good place to get advice. Too many bitter old women looking to share their misery. |
| She lets him. A man will treat you how you allow him to treat you. |
Often the are but the women think they can change their mind. |
Life isn’t a Hallmark movie. This shit rarely happens in real life. No guy realizes how good they had it and comes groveling. That’s just weird romance novel fantasy. |
+1 Lame OP question. Must be a slow troll day. |
| I dont understand being strung along. If your goal is to be married after a year or two of dating, then move on when that doesn’t happen. What am I missing? Being strung along makes it sound like women are passive and have no control of their own destiny. Don’t blame the man for your inability to move own. |
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Man here: there are a couple of scenarios of which I am aware. There is the straight-up string-her-along-on-purpose guy, who has no intention of ever marrying her and is intentionally taking advantage of the situation. This happens but is relatively rare. The mindset of most men in this situation goes something like this, I think: marriage is not particularly on his mind because dating-to-get-married is not the way most men think about dating in their late 20s and early 30s; the relationship is good and working for both parties; he’s not thinking about kids yet; and often the woman does not bring marriage up, waiting for him to propose. So this situation can sit a long time. Most men in the situation feel justified, because they usually have expressed ambivalence or worse about the institution of marriage many times, and when the situation blows up as it always does, he’s often blindsided: i told her a lot of times i wasn’t sure about marriage, why is she acting surprised and hurt?
From my perspective, stringing a woman along in this manner in her late 20s and early 30s is one of the worst things a man can do, but we don’t really have the vocabulary to condemn it anymore: both sex and dating have been decoupled from marriage, so there is no uniform set of expectations that both parties understand; the major focus is on consent these days, and the hapless man in this situation often thinks, “what, I told her I wasn’t sure about marriage and she stayed in the relationship voluntarily even so, how did I wrong her?”; and I do think dating at that often involves people who have been hurt a lot before and are kind of one-foot-out anyway a lot of the time. But not every long dating scenario is stringing along, sometimes there are real issues in the relationship to work through before marriage. |
| Unless a man is very good looking or rich, dating to get sex is a hassle, so they are content to stay in a good-enough relationship as long as they can get away with it or until they meet someone they like better. They don’t have to worry about a biological clock the way women do. |