Agreed. The only reason a woman should live with a man before marriage is if SHE is unsure about committing to him. Otherwise, it’s a bad idea |
Yeah, here, but that’s like concluding everyone must be sick while sitting in an emergency room. |
They want kids, not a husband, and the men are just means to that end. Once she gets her kids, the man loses utility. |
Can you name one bestseller book or magazine or any media from the last 100 years that focuses on telling men how to be better husbands? |
<not sure how those goalposts got all the way over here, but sure, what the heck> I’m pretty confident that Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate are the preferred toxic male counterparts to the toxic self-improvement industrial complex that preys on women. |
But playing the victim is so much easier and sympathetic than taking responsibility for your actions! |
No. Not the “self-improvement” stuff. Something that’s the equivalent to “The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands” or “Men are From Mars and Women are From Venus,” but geared towards men. If men are so focused on being great husbands that their wives want to have sex with, there must be tons of super popular bestsellers out there telling men how to be good husbands and take care of their wives, right? |
It isn't quite as malicious as this, but yeah, it is a reality for a lot of couples. |
I’m a pretty pragmatic person, and I knew that I wanted to be a mother from an early age. So I had this conversation twice in my twenties. But you have to realize that this is a weird conversation to have. On one hand, I am completely head over heels in love with you and want to wake up with you every morning and be with you until the day that I die. On the other hand, I’m fine walking away tomorrow and never seeing you again if you don’t feel the same way. I mean, it’s hard to initiate a break-up and stick to it when you are really in love with the other person and want to be with them. |
You equate sex with money? Okaay. |
Women mistake this for the other thing. |
Not when you care more about having kids than who you have them with. |
Like I said, I only did it one time. The second time I had this conversation, I got married. But it’s really hard to break up with someone even when you care more about being able to have your own family one day than you do about being in that particular relationship. If you aren’t particularly set on something concrete that makes you incompatible long term, I can imagine that it’s even harder to break up, and it’s easy to get strung along for years. |
More women need to own this and communicate it honestly to their donor, ah, significant other. |
It’s not unreasonable to break up with someone because you want kids and marriage, and they don’t. It doesn’t mean you want kids from just anybody. You can still want kids AND want someone you love and are compatible with. Just kinda weird to think people should give up their dreams of marriage and kid’s because they found someone “special” who doesn’t want them. |