Which of these women is 'doing better'?

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Anonymous wrote:As a mother, A was absolutely the best option for me and completely worthwhile. 500K is a fantastic HHI. I can outsource all I want and I get to be with my kids. Besides, the allure of working disappeared when I had kids and no amount of money I earned, made up for the time I was absent from my kids lives. A great nanny cannot replace a great mom or great dad. A great nanny is a wonderful replacement for a disengaged parent.

In all of the options, I am assuming that
- you have a great marriage, and your DH is a wonderful husband and father, You will never divorce or be left in financial crisis
- you have children without any big issues and you like spending time with your children
- you have the money to take care of your needs like college, retirement, outsourcing chores etc.

BTW - I am not throwing any shade on having a nanny. Any and all support to raise a kid or run a household or take care of elderly relatives is a boon. A great nanny can help to make things easier - even for a SAHM.

Being at home with money and help allowed me to do my SAHM role with ease. I am not the super high energy, super frantic, super efficient person IRL, who can do it all. I like to do things with support around me. And I like to do the things that I like to do. For me it was guiding and being with my kids.

I am not a person who cares too much about expensive things, so having a million dollar HHI is not something that I value over time. As long as I can pay for services, I am happy with my life. I was able to SAHM with a decent HHI. It has never reached $500K. We have always felt very wealthy with just $120K - $400K over the years.

$120k is entry level salary and certainly not enough for one parent to stay home - nevermind feel rich

$120k is 150% of the median US HOUSEHOLD income. Are you insufferable on purpose?

Right but most of the US are not ‘doing well’. The pp said they felt rich. In any high col area, $120k is objectively not adequate salary for one parent to justify staying home nevermind feeling wealthy

28 years ago - it was RICH. Today it is - COMFORTABLE.

If you cannot live well on 120K. There is something wrong in your entitlement or financial wisdom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a mother, A was absolutely the best option for me and completely worthwhile. 500K is a fantastic HHI. I can outsource all I want and I get to be with my kids. Besides, the allure of working disappeared when I had kids and no amount of money I earned, made up for the time I was absent from my kids lives. A great nanny cannot replace a great mom or great dad. A great nanny is a wonderful replacement for a disengaged parent.

In all of the options, I am assuming that
- you have a great marriage, and your DH is a wonderful husband and father, You will never divorce or be left in financial crisis
- you have children without any big issues and you like spending time with your children
- you have the money to take care of your needs like college, retirement, outsourcing chores etc.

BTW - I am not throwing any shade on having a nanny. Any and all support to raise a kid or run a household or take care of elderly relatives is a boon. A great nanny can help to make things easier - even for a SAHM.

Being at home with money and help allowed me to do my SAHM role with ease. I am not the super high energy, super frantic, super efficient person IRL, who can do it all. I like to do things with support around me. And I like to do the things that I like to do. For me it was guiding and being with my kids.

I am not a person who cares too much about expensive things, so having a million dollar HHI is not something that I value over time. As long as I can pay for services, I am happy with my life. I was able to SAHM with a decent HHI. It has never reached $500K. We have always felt very wealthy with just $120K - $400K over the years.

$120k is entry level salary and certainly not enough for one parent to stay home - nevermind feel rich

$120k is 150% of the median US HOUSEHOLD income. Are you insufferable on purpose?

Right but most of the US are not ‘doing well’. The pp said they felt rich. In any high col area, $120k is objectively not adequate salary for one parent to justify staying home nevermind feeling wealthy

28 years ago - it was RICH. Today it is - COMFORTABLE.

If you cannot live well on 120K. There is something wrong in your entitlement or financial wisdom.

There is something very wrong with your financial understanding or you live somewhere very cheap. Try asking ChatGPT if you can live well on $120k hhi in any major metro area with kids and save and have vacations and pay for their college

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Anonymous wrote:Neither - the long-term SAHPs I know are not the sharpest tools in the drawer, and I’d be worried about mental degradation.

So then it's either be dumb yourself or married to a dumb man. I'll take mental degradation!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a mother, A was absolutely the best option for me and completely worthwhile. 500K is a fantastic HHI. I can outsource all I want and I get to be with my kids. Besides, the allure of working disappeared when I had kids and no amount of money I earned, made up for the time I was absent from my kids lives. A great nanny cannot replace a great mom or great dad. A great nanny is a wonderful replacement for a disengaged parent.

In all of the options, I am assuming that
- you have a great marriage, and your DH is a wonderful husband and father, You will never divorce or be left in financial crisis
- you have children without any big issues and you like spending time with your children
- you have the money to take care of your needs like college, retirement, outsourcing chores etc.

BTW - I am not throwing any shade on having a nanny. Any and all support to raise a kid or run a household or take care of elderly relatives is a boon. A great nanny can help to make things easier - even for a SAHM.

Being at home with money and help allowed me to do my SAHM role with ease. I am not the super high energy, super frantic, super efficient person IRL, who can do it all. I like to do things with support around me. And I like to do the things that I like to do. For me it was guiding and being with my kids.

I am not a person who cares too much about expensive things, so having a million dollar HHI is not something that I value over time. As long as I can pay for services, I am happy with my life. I was able to SAHM with a decent HHI. It has never reached $500K. We have always felt very wealthy with just $120K - $400K over the years.

$120k is entry level salary and certainly not enough for one parent to stay home - nevermind feel rich

$120k is 150% of the median US HOUSEHOLD income. Are you insufferable on purpose?

Right but most of the US are not ‘doing well’. The pp said they felt rich. In any high col area, $120k is objectively not adequate salary for one parent to justify staying home nevermind feeling wealthy

28 years ago - it was RICH. Today it is - COMFORTABLE.

If you cannot live well on 120K. There is something wrong in your entitlement or financial wisdom.

There is something very wrong with your financial understanding or you live somewhere very cheap. Try asking ChatGPT if you can live well on $120k hhi in any major metro area with kids and save and have vacations and pay for their college

Bolded tells us everything we need to know about you and how much value to place on your contributions to this conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a mother, A was absolutely the best option for me and completely worthwhile. 500K is a fantastic HHI. I can outsource all I want and I get to be with my kids. Besides, the allure of working disappeared when I had kids and no amount of money I earned, made up for the time I was absent from my kids lives. A great nanny cannot replace a great mom or great dad. A great nanny is a wonderful replacement for a disengaged parent.

In all of the options, I am assuming that
- you have a great marriage, and your DH is a wonderful husband and father, You will never divorce or be left in financial crisis
- you have children without any big issues and you like spending time with your children
- you have the money to take care of your needs like college, retirement, outsourcing chores etc.

BTW - I am not throwing any shade on having a nanny. Any and all support to raise a kid or run a household or take care of elderly relatives is a boon. A great nanny can help to make things easier - even for a SAHM.

Being at home with money and help allowed me to do my SAHM role with ease. I am not the super high energy, super frantic, super efficient person IRL, who can do it all. I like to do things with support around me. And I like to do the things that I like to do. For me it was guiding and being with my kids.

I am not a person who cares too much about expensive things, so having a million dollar HHI is not something that I value over time. As long as I can pay for services, I am happy with my life. I was able to SAHM with a decent HHI. It has never reached $500K. We have always felt very wealthy with just $120K - $400K over the years.

$120k is entry level salary and certainly not enough for one parent to stay home - nevermind feel rich

$120k is 150% of the median US HOUSEHOLD income. Are you insufferable on purpose?

Right but most of the US are not ‘doing well’. The pp said they felt rich. In any high col area, $120k is objectively not adequate salary for one parent to justify staying home nevermind feeling wealthy

28 years ago - it was RICH. Today it is - COMFORTABLE.

If you cannot live well on 120K. There is something wrong in your entitlement or financial wisdom.

There is something very wrong with your financial understanding or you live somewhere very cheap. Try asking ChatGPT if you can live well on $120k hhi in any major metro area with kids and save and have vacations and pay for their college

Regardless of how terrible you are with your personal finances, 120k is still not an entry-level salary as you claimed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a mother, A was absolutely the best option for me and completely worthwhile. 500K is a fantastic HHI. I can outsource all I want and I get to be with my kids. Besides, the allure of working disappeared when I had kids and no amount of money I earned, made up for the time I was absent from my kids lives. A great nanny cannot replace a great mom or great dad. A great nanny is a wonderful replacement for a disengaged parent.

In all of the options, I am assuming that
- you have a great marriage, and your DH is a wonderful husband and father, You will never divorce or be left in financial crisis
- you have children without any big issues and you like spending time with your children
- you have the money to take care of your needs like college, retirement, outsourcing chores etc.

BTW - I am not throwing any shade on having a nanny. Any and all support to raise a kid or run a household or take care of elderly relatives is a boon. A great nanny can help to make things easier - even for a SAHM.

Being at home with money and help allowed me to do my SAHM role with ease. I am not the super high energy, super frantic, super efficient person IRL, who can do it all. I like to do things with support around me. And I like to do the things that I like to do. For me it was guiding and being with my kids.

I am not a person who cares too much about expensive things, so having a million dollar HHI is not something that I value over time. As long as I can pay for services, I am happy with my life. I was able to SAHM with a decent HHI. It has never reached $500K. We have always felt very wealthy with just $120K - $400K over the years.

$120k is entry level salary and certainly not enough for one parent to stay home - nevermind feel rich

$120k is 150% of the median US HOUSEHOLD income. Are you insufferable on purpose?

Right but most of the US are not ‘doing well’. The pp said they felt rich. In any high col area, $120k is objectively not adequate salary for one parent to justify staying home nevermind feeling wealthy

28 years ago - it was RICH. Today it is - COMFORTABLE.

If you cannot live well on 120K. There is something wrong in your entitlement or financial wisdom.

There is something very wrong with your financial understanding or you live somewhere very cheap. Try asking ChatGPT if you can live well on $120k hhi in any major metro area with kids and save and have vacations and pay for their college

Regardless of how terrible you are with your personal finances, 120k is still not an entry-level salary as you claimed.

In nyc advertising world (which isn’t even the most remunerative) entry level is $60-$85 (straight out of college) and $85 - $125 is the next rung up - mostly folks in their mid to sometimes late 20s with no kids. No one was at that level that I worked with past the age of 30.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a mother, A was absolutely the best option for me and completely worthwhile. 500K is a fantastic HHI. I can outsource all I want and I get to be with my kids. Besides, the allure of working disappeared when I had kids and no amount of money I earned, made up for the time I was absent from my kids lives. A great nanny cannot replace a great mom or great dad. A great nanny is a wonderful replacement for a disengaged parent.

In all of the options, I am assuming that
- you have a great marriage, and your DH is a wonderful husband and father, You will never divorce or be left in financial crisis
- you have children without any big issues and you like spending time with your children
- you have the money to take care of your needs like college, retirement, outsourcing chores etc.

BTW - I am not throwing any shade on having a nanny. Any and all support to raise a kid or run a household or take care of elderly relatives is a boon. A great nanny can help to make things easier - even for a SAHM.

Being at home with money and help allowed me to do my SAHM role with ease. I am not the super high energy, super frantic, super efficient person IRL, who can do it all. I like to do things with support around me. And I like to do the things that I like to do. For me it was guiding and being with my kids.

I am not a person who cares too much about expensive things, so having a million dollar HHI is not something that I value over time. As long as I can pay for services, I am happy with my life. I was able to SAHM with a decent HHI. It has never reached $500K. We have always felt very wealthy with just $120K - $400K over the years.

$120k is entry level salary and certainly not enough for one parent to stay home - nevermind feel rich

$120k is 150% of the median US HOUSEHOLD income. Are you insufferable on purpose?

Right but most of the US are not ‘doing well’. The pp said they felt rich. In any high col area, $120k is objectively not adequate salary for one parent to justify staying home nevermind feeling wealthy

28 years ago - it was RICH. Today it is - COMFORTABLE.

If you cannot live well on 120K. There is something wrong in your entitlement or financial wisdom.

There is something very wrong with your financial understanding or you live somewhere very cheap. Try asking ChatGPT if you can live well on $120k hhi in any major metro area with kids and save and have vacations and pay for their college

Bolded tells us everything we need to know about you and how much value to place on your contributions to this conversation.

Pick your source - up to you if you want to work harder for the same info.
Also, you realize chatgpt collates sources and gives you links to the sources, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:C - woman earning 150k without a husband
Hahahaha

Surrounded by cats and with a body county that will not allow her soul to move into the next chapter upon death

Imagine thinking you’ll get into heaven as a raging misogynist but a single woman won’t if she’s had sex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a mother, A was absolutely the best option for me and completely worthwhile. 500K is a fantastic HHI. I can outsource all I want and I get to be with my kids. Besides, the allure of working disappeared when I had kids and no amount of money I earned, made up for the time I was absent from my kids lives. A great nanny cannot replace a great mom or great dad. A great nanny is a wonderful replacement for a disengaged parent.

In all of the options, I am assuming that
- you have a great marriage, and your DH is a wonderful husband and father, You will never divorce or be left in financial crisis
- you have children without any big issues and you like spending time with your children
- you have the money to take care of your needs like college, retirement, outsourcing chores etc.

BTW - I am not throwing any shade on having a nanny. Any and all support to raise a kid or run a household or take care of elderly relatives is a boon. A great nanny can help to make things easier - even for a SAHM.

Being at home with money and help allowed me to do my SAHM role with ease. I am not the super high energy, super frantic, super efficient person IRL, who can do it all. I like to do things with support around me. And I like to do the things that I like to do. For me it was guiding and being with my kids.

I am not a person who cares too much about expensive things, so having a million dollar HHI is not something that I value over time. As long as I can pay for services, I am happy with my life. I was able to SAHM with a decent HHI. It has never reached $500K. We have always felt very wealthy with just $120K - $400K over the years.

$120k is entry level salary and certainly not enough for one parent to stay home - nevermind feel rich

$120k is 150% of the median US HOUSEHOLD income. Are you insufferable on purpose?

Right but most of the US are not ‘doing well’. The pp said they felt rich. In any high col area, $120k is objectively not adequate salary for one parent to justify staying home nevermind feeling wealthy

28 years ago - it was RICH. Today it is - COMFORTABLE.

If you cannot live well on 120K. There is something wrong in your entitlement or financial wisdom.

There is something very wrong with your financial understanding or you live somewhere very cheap. Try asking ChatGPT if you can live well on $120k hhi in any major metro area with kids and save and have vacations and pay for their college

We lived very well on less than that. Saved for college, retirement and more. It’s lifestyle choices. Now we make a little more but never changed our lifestyle but to pay off the house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a mother, A was absolutely the best option for me and completely worthwhile. 500K is a fantastic HHI. I can outsource all I want and I get to be with my kids. Besides, the allure of working disappeared when I had kids and no amount of money I earned, made up for the time I was absent from my kids lives. A great nanny cannot replace a great mom or great dad. A great nanny is a wonderful replacement for a disengaged parent.

In all of the options, I am assuming that
- you have a great marriage, and your DH is a wonderful husband and father, You will never divorce or be left in financial crisis
- you have children without any big issues and you like spending time with your children
- you have the money to take care of your needs like college, retirement, outsourcing chores etc.

BTW - I am not throwing any shade on having a nanny. Any and all support to raise a kid or run a household or take care of elderly relatives is a boon. A great nanny can help to make things easier - even for a SAHM.

Being at home with money and help allowed me to do my SAHM role with ease. I am not the super high energy, super frantic, super efficient person IRL, who can do it all. I like to do things with support around me. And I like to do the things that I like to do. For me it was guiding and being with my kids.

I am not a person who cares too much about expensive things, so having a million dollar HHI is not something that I value over time. As long as I can pay for services, I am happy with my life. I was able to SAHM with a decent HHI. It has never reached $500K. We have always felt very wealthy with just $120K - $400K over the years.

$120k is entry level salary and certainly not enough for one parent to stay home - nevermind feel rich

$120k is 150% of the median US HOUSEHOLD income. Are you insufferable on purpose?

Right but most of the US are not ‘doing well’. The pp said they felt rich. In any high col area, $120k is objectively not adequate salary for one parent to justify staying home nevermind feeling wealthy

28 years ago - it was RICH. Today it is - COMFORTABLE.

If you cannot live well on 120K. There is something wrong in your entitlement or financial wisdom.

There is something very wrong with your financial understanding or you live somewhere very cheap. Try asking ChatGPT if you can live well on $120k hhi in any major metro area with kids and save and have vacations and pay for their college

Bolded tells us everything we need to know about you and how much value to place on your contributions to this conversation.

Pick your source - up to you if you want to work harder for the same info.
Also, you realize chatgpt collates sources and gives you links to the sources, right?

People who really on AI tools such as ChatGPT lack intelligence and basic reasoning skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a mother, A was absolutely the best option for me and completely worthwhile. 500K is a fantastic HHI. I can outsource all I want and I get to be with my kids. Besides, the allure of working disappeared when I had kids and no amount of money I earned, made up for the time I was absent from my kids lives. A great nanny cannot replace a great mom or great dad. A great nanny is a wonderful replacement for a disengaged parent.

In all of the options, I am assuming that
- you have a great marriage, and your DH is a wonderful husband and father, You will never divorce or be left in financial crisis
- you have children without any big issues and you like spending time with your children
- you have the money to take care of your needs like college, retirement, outsourcing chores etc.

BTW - I am not throwing any shade on having a nanny. Any and all support to raise a kid or run a household or take care of elderly relatives is a boon. A great nanny can help to make things easier - even for a SAHM.

Being at home with money and help allowed me to do my SAHM role with ease. I am not the super high energy, super frantic, super efficient person IRL, who can do it all. I like to do things with support around me. And I like to do the things that I like to do. For me it was guiding and being with my kids.

I am not a person who cares too much about expensive things, so having a million dollar HHI is not something that I value over time. As long as I can pay for services, I am happy with my life. I was able to SAHM with a decent HHI. It has never reached $500K. We have always felt very wealthy with just $120K - $400K over the years.

$120k is entry level salary and certainly not enough for one parent to stay home - nevermind feel rich

$120k is 150% of the median US HOUSEHOLD income. Are you insufferable on purpose?

Right but most of the US are not ‘doing well’. The pp said they felt rich. In any high col area, $120k is objectively not adequate salary for one parent to justify staying home nevermind feeling wealthy

28 years ago - it was RICH. Today it is - COMFORTABLE.

If you cannot live well on 120K. There is something wrong in your entitlement or financial wisdom.

There is something very wrong with your financial understanding or you live somewhere very cheap. Try asking ChatGPT if you can live well on $120k hhi in any major metro area with kids and save and have vacations and pay for their college

Bolded tells us everything we need to know about you and how much value to place on your contributions to this conversation.

Pick your source - up to you if you want to work harder for the same info.
Also, you realize chatgpt collates sources and gives you links to the sources, right?

People who really on AI tools such as ChatGPT lack intelligence and basic reasoning skills.

Hilarious. “Rely” autocorrected to “really”. They’re both words so of course the algorithm says all is well!

This error further illustrates my point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a mother, A was absolutely the best option for me and completely worthwhile. 500K is a fantastic HHI. I can outsource all I want and I get to be with my kids. Besides, the allure of working disappeared when I had kids and no amount of money I earned, made up for the time I was absent from my kids lives. A great nanny cannot replace a great mom or great dad. A great nanny is a wonderful replacement for a disengaged parent.

In all of the options, I am assuming that
- you have a great marriage, and your DH is a wonderful husband and father, You will never divorce or be left in financial crisis
- you have children without any big issues and you like spending time with your children
- you have the money to take care of your needs like college, retirement, outsourcing chores etc.

BTW - I am not throwing any shade on having a nanny. Any and all support to raise a kid or run a household or take care of elderly relatives is a boon. A great nanny can help to make things easier - even for a SAHM.

Being at home with money and help allowed me to do my SAHM role with ease. I am not the super high energy, super frantic, super efficient person IRL, who can do it all. I like to do things with support around me. And I like to do the things that I like to do. For me it was guiding and being with my kids.

I am not a person who cares too much about expensive things, so having a million dollar HHI is not something that I value over time. As long as I can pay for services, I am happy with my life. I was able to SAHM with a decent HHI. It has never reached $500K. We have always felt very wealthy with just $120K - $400K over the years.

$120k is entry level salary and certainly not enough for one parent to stay home - nevermind feel rich

$120k is 150% of the median US HOUSEHOLD income. Are you insufferable on purpose?

Right but most of the US are not ‘doing well’. The pp said they felt rich. In any high col area, $120k is objectively not adequate salary for one parent to justify staying home nevermind feeling wealthy

28 years ago - it was RICH. Today it is - COMFORTABLE.

If you cannot live well on 120K. There is something wrong in your entitlement or financial wisdom.

There is something very wrong with your financial understanding or you live somewhere very cheap. Try asking ChatGPT if you can live well on $120k hhi in any major metro area with kids and save and have vacations and pay for their college

Bolded tells us everything we need to know about you and how much value to place on your contributions to this conversation.

Pick your source - up to you if you want to work harder for the same info.
Also, you realize chatgpt collates sources and gives you links to the sources, right?

People who really on AI tools such as ChatGPT lack intelligence and basic reasoning skills.

Hilarious. “Rely” autocorrected to “really”. They’re both words so of course the algorithm says all is well!

This error further illustrates my point.

Sure, hun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:C - woman earning 150k without a husband
Hahahaha

Surrounded by cats and with a body county that will not allow her soul to move into the next chapter upon death

No cats, vet bills require a 300l salary.
I heard snakes are cheaper as pets.

[Anonymous]

There is no right answer and it's ok to have different opinions and values and for some of us, hangups. I am happily a sahm now, but would choose any option that brought in 1m, but for strictly financial reasons and not the fear of divorce, sense of independence, work fulfillment or other reasons listed. I don't have those fears of not working and I don't cherish the benefits sahm life bestows as highly as others either.

I admit it's short sighted, as I don't think I could last long under the conditions that I've seen 1m salary requires. If I could land over 250k I'd go to work right now.