Mass shooting at dc nightclub

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's horrible. I cannot believe that we make legal gun ownership so difficult in DC (rightly, and I say this as a legal gun owning household) and illegal gun-ownership gets a slap on the wrist. It's a scandal that needs even more investigative work.

I agree. I really do not understand why we can't get more funding for more policing.
I lean left, and will never vote for a conservative, but come on. Do better, liberals.

What about this incident makes you think the cause is lack of policing?

Don't play dense. At this point we need to basically double the police and crack down hard on any and all crime and vagrancy. So tired of the constant shootings.

Thanks for letting us know you don’t know what the phrase “constant shootings” means.

[Anonymous]

Someone posted on SM that he used to work security at another venue on H. They decided to frisk everyone and 1st night turned up a gun. Given the complexities of the response to that, they never frisked patrons again. A LOT of security is theater. Even if there were weapons detectors they would not detect ghost guns.

Seems like a hit. Was the target the man for whom no details were released?

This venue is likely closed for good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More on the individual killed: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cxleoj0Rp61/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Oh what a beautiful family. I’m so heartbroken for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's horrible. I cannot believe that we make legal gun ownership so difficult in DC (rightly, and I say this as a legal gun owning household) and illegal gun-ownership gets a slap on the wrist. It's a scandal that needs even more investigative work.

I agree. I really do not understand why we can't get more funding for more policing.
I lean left, and will never vote for a conservative, but come on. Do better, liberals.

What about this incident makes you think the cause is lack of policing?

Don't play dense. At this point we need to basically double the police and crack down hard on any and all crime and vagrancy. So tired of the constant shootings.

Thanks for letting us know you don’t know what the phrase “constant shootings” means.

Enough with the uninformed platitudes. Every month DC MPD gets smaller. They cannot recruit even on pace to match retirements and resignations. The issue is not funds at the moment but the situation was deliberately created. Even with hiring bonuses, etc, MPD cannot effectively compete with other LE options in DMV, of which there are many.

[Anonymous]

This situation was deliberately created and the dynamics are proving VERY difficult to reverse despite funding NOW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More police will not resolve the issue, addressing poverty, the lack of family structures and rising cost of inflation for food, and other basic necessities will address the problem. More policing leads to more jail. Once out, those who paid their debt to society are then unable to be reintegrated back into society which causes them to commit more crimes to survive.

America is not a first world country because it cannot even adequately feed children, ensure that working mothers have free safe daycare and provide housing to those in need.

And what about the 3 children who will now grow up without a father? How does allowing this violence to continue (because insert sob story about the perpetrator) help the children who lose a parent to a stray bullet?

If we want to act like a first world country, we need to be protecting our innocent children from violence. Guns are now a leading cause of death for youth in America. But sure, please tell me about how all these shooters just need a hot meal and a hug.

[Anonymous]

Before there was the Nightlife Task Force (clearly making a big difference) there was this super impactful one

https://dcist.com/story/23/03/22/dc-homicide-task-force-dissolves/

Their work started well before CV, so, don't @ me about those excuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More police will not resolve the issue, addressing poverty, the lack of family structures and rising cost of inflation for food, and other basic necessities will address the problem. More policing leads to more jail. Once out, those who paid their debt to society are then unable to be reintegrated back into society which causes them to commit more crimes to survive.

America is not a first world country because it cannot even adequately feed children, ensure that working mothers have free safe daycare and provide housing to those in need.

Uh, these mass shootings in nightclubs do not happen because the poor killer is trying to put food on the table for his kids.

Also, 4 people are either dead or severely injured. Why don't you also show some compassion for the victims instead of only for the psychopathic killer?

Putting moms in almost free apartments in Ward 3 with EBT and subsidized daycare has not changed things for those families, instead, it has brought crime and violence to formerly safe areas. There have always been poor and working class people. To conflate those people with violent criminals does nothing but perpetuate a status quo that harms poor people and minorities the most. Long term strategies and investments are just that, from those who are violent TODAY, the public needs to be kept safe.

This was a hit. The target likely won't be identified. Same with shooting outside of Assets, etc. Sucks to be in the wrong place at the wrong time though, a man crossing the street in Dupont was also hit in that one, like the several folks and security shot Saturday night. When MPD and Frumin were asked where the other 2 shots went in the recent 3pm on a Saturday shooting in Ward 3, near a playground, BreadFurst and P&P, they did not answer. You may not be in the life and a target, but that may not matter. Or you may be shot or stabbed in a carjacking, as happened last evening in Columbia Heights, near Giant. Or you may get shattered facial bones and a TBI in Union Station going to Amtrak.

The common theme is known to be violent people who are not removed from the street, left to prey on the rest of us, poor and MC alike. Who benefits from this status quo? It was set in motion long ago with the closing of Lorton, the schools for violent kids, the shrinking of St. E's, etc. Again, who benefits? Follow the money, although DC Justice Lab makes that challenging.

[Anonymous]

Also, the police RESPOND to crimes and actions. They aren't preventing actions. Prevention needs to be handled by some other source entirely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, the police RESPOND to crimes and actions. They aren't preventing actions. Prevention needs to be handled by some other source entirely.

The local jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More police will not resolve the issue, addressing poverty, the lack of family structures and rising cost of inflation for food, and other basic necessities will address the problem. More policing leads to more jail. Once out, those who paid their debt to society are then unable to be reintegrated back into society which causes them to commit more crimes to survive.

America is not a first world country because it cannot even adequately feed children, ensure that working mothers have free safe daycare and provide housing to those in need.

And what about the 3 children who will now grow up without a father? How does allowing this violence to continue (because insert sob story about the perpetrator) help the children who lose a parent to a stray bullet?

If we want to act like a first world country, we need to be protecting our innocent children from violence. Guns are now a leading cause of death for youth in America. But sure, please tell me about how all these shooters just need a hot meal and a hug.

You are focused on the after effects, I am focused on the before it gets to this point. I am sorry for the loss of that father, husband, brother but that does not change the fact that American culture is inherently selfish and will continue to pay the price for refusing to have expansive holistic coverage for wrap around services, instead its made to be political instead of a basic human right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, the police RESPOND to crimes and actions. They aren't preventing actions. Prevention needs to be handled by some other source entirely.

The local jail.

Sadly this. I have no doubt Saturday’s shooter is quite experienced with the local criminal justice system, but has been let loose time and time again to terrorize the broader community. Time to lock these guys up and throw away the key.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's horrible. I cannot believe that we make legal gun ownership so difficult in DC (rightly, and I say this as a legal gun owning household) and illegal gun-ownership gets a slap on the wrist. It's a scandal that needs even more investigative work.

I agree. I really do not understand why we can't get more funding for more policing.
I lean left, and will never vote for a conservative, but come on. Do better, liberals.

What about this incident makes you think the cause is lack of policing?

Don't play dense. At this point we need to basically double the police and crack down hard on any and all crime and vagrancy. So tired of the constant shootings.

Thanks for letting us know you don’t know what the phrase “constant shootings” means.

There is at least one shooting every day in DC. What do you think the word "constant" means?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More police will not resolve the issue, addressing poverty, the lack of family structures and rising cost of inflation for food, and other basic necessities will address the problem. More policing leads to more jail. Once out, those who paid their debt to society are then unable to be reintegrated back into society which causes them to commit more crimes to survive.

America is not a first world country because it cannot even adequately feed children, ensure that working mothers have free safe daycare and provide housing to those in need.

And what about the 3 children who will now grow up without a father? How does allowing this violence to continue (because insert sob story about the perpetrator) help the children who lose a parent to a stray bullet?

If we want to act like a first world country, we need to be protecting our innocent children from violence. Guns are now a leading cause of death for youth in America. But sure, please tell me about how all these shooters just need a hot meal and a hug.

Maybe what we do instead is impose consequences on the people who keep pushing the idea that police and jail are bad. Starting to seem like they are the problem that needs to be fixrf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More police will not resolve the issue, addressing poverty, the lack of family structures and rising cost of inflation for food, and other basic necessities will address the problem. More policing leads to more jail. Once out, those who paid their debt to society are then unable to be reintegrated back into society which causes them to commit more crimes to survive.

America is not a first world country because it cannot even adequately feed children, ensure that working mothers have free safe daycare and provide housing to those in need.

And what about the 3 children who will now grow up without a father? How does allowing this violence to continue (because insert sob story about the perpetrator) help the children who lose a parent to a stray bullet?

If we want to act like a first world country, we need to be protecting our innocent children from violence. Guns are now a leading cause of death for youth in America. But sure, please tell me about how all these shooters just need a hot meal and a hug.

You are focused on the after effects, I am focused on the before it gets to this point. I am sorry for the loss of that father, husband, brother but that does not change the fact that American culture is inherently selfish and will continue to pay the price for refusing to have expansive holistic coverage for wrap around services, instead its made to be political instead of a basic human right.

Lol. If only we did things the “right” way, there wouldn’t be crime, right? I really would like to put you into a diversion program before your ideas do further harm to the community.