Is there more gender and sexual fluidity now among teen girls?

[Anonymous]

In the recent Gallup survey 20.8% of Gen Z self identify as LGBQT. So basically 1 in 5. Millennials are half that at 10.5%. Gen X is only 4.2%

https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the recent Gallup survey 20.8% of Gen Z self identify as LGBQT. So basically 1 in 5. Millennials are half that at 10.5%. Gen X is only 4.2%

https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx

Good for them, I’m glad they feel comfortable expressing themselves. I wish I had felt comfortable years ago - gen X.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the recent Gallup survey 20.8% of Gen Z self identify as LGBQT. So basically 1 in 5. Millennials are half that at 10.5%. Gen X is only 4.2%

https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx

Good for them, I’m glad they feel comfortable expressing themselves. I wish I had felt comfortable years ago - gen X.

+1

Over the last decade, I’ve had two older relatives (boomers) come out. I’m so glad they finally can be themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I honestly think girls right now are using this as the new way to deal with the realization we all come to at puberty that being a cis-girl can s-u-c-k. I think the large numbers are a result of it being a socialization/peer pressure thing. There is no doubt there are gender-fluid, non-binary, trans people, etc etc., but it from those I know, they knew from childhood. I am interested to see where this goes over the next 10 years.

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I know this is from February, but I think this is a huuuuuuuge part of it. From periods and feeling like an effing moose in your new body but wanting to be body positive to the girls who have noticed that it’s 2022 and the GOP is attacking women’s rights harder than ever before… yeah. I bet not being pigeon-holed as a girl looks damn attractive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly think girls right now are using this as the new way to deal with the realization we all come to at puberty that being a cis-girl can s-u-c-k. I think the large numbers are a result of it being a socialization/peer pressure thing. There is no doubt there are gender-fluid, non-binary, trans people, etc etc., but it from those I know, they knew from childhood. I am interested to see where this goes over the next 10 years.

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I know this is from February, but I think this is a huuuuuuuge part of it. From periods and feeling like an effing moose in your new body but wanting to be body positive to the girls who have noticed that it’s 2022 and the GOP is attacking women’s rights harder than ever before… yeah. I bet not being pigeon-holed as a girl looks damn attractive.

Of course. That's why do many of us are disturbed by the trend to erase women.

There is nothing wrong with being female. There's nothing wrong with medically having female body parts and using them for female things, like birthing a child.

A transmale person who wants to do that is medically a woman, in terms of their reproductive parts. They can be a man everywhere else. They exist on an overlapping piece of a Venn diagram.

Erasing terms like "pregnant women," to make them more comfortable at the expense of about 50% of the human population is not okay. When you take away the word "woman" and replace it with body parts, or worse, euphemisms like "front hole" and "chestfeeding" you are erasing us.

Seeing well-intentioned newscasters discuss abortion rights and refusing to use the word "woman" is making me sick. And tired. It shouldn't be like this. We've failed our daughters and our son's, all of them, that we've erased women like this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a fad. Honestly, they are all latching onto it because it’s an identity
It will sort out later. Also, social media, tic toc and Instagram are full of propaganda.
It’s seriously skewing how our kids think..

This. There are so many other things going on in the world. And our small minded, self absorbed Americans can only focus on themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly think girls right now are using this as the new way to deal with the realization we all come to at puberty that being a cis-girl can s-u-c-k. I think the large numbers are a result of it being a socialization/peer pressure thing. There is no doubt there are gender-fluid, non-binary, trans people, etc etc., but it from those I know, they knew from childhood. I am interested to see where this goes over the next 10 years.

+1
I know this is from February, but I think this is a huuuuuuuge part of it. From periods and feeling like an effing moose in your new body but wanting to be body positive to the girls who have noticed that it’s 2022 and the GOP is attacking women’s rights harder than ever before… yeah. I bet not being pigeon-holed as a girl looks damn attractive.

Of course. That's why do many of us are disturbed by the trend to erase women.

There is nothing wrong with being female. There's nothing wrong with medically having female body parts and using them for female things, like birthing a child.

A transmale person who wants to do that is medically a woman, in terms of their reproductive parts. They can be a man everywhere else. They exist on an overlapping piece of a Venn diagram.

Erasing terms like "pregnant women," to make them more comfortable at the expense of about 50% of the human population is not okay. When you take away the word "woman" and replace it with body parts, or worse, euphemisms like "front hole" and "chestfeeding" you are erasing us.

Seeing well-intentioned newscasters discuss abortion rights and refusing to use the word "woman" is making me sick. And tired. It shouldn't be like this. We've failed our daughters and our son's, all of them, that we've erased women like this

No one has taken away the term pregnant women. Pregnant people to include non-binary and trans masc people is inclusive language that does not prevent people from using the words pregnant women. Pregnant women are in fact also pregnant people. What you're saying is that you want to be able to call a transgender man a woman.

[Anonymous]

It is trendy social contagion.

[Anonymous]

Yes. Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) is a thing.

[Anonymous]

This is a mixture of groupthink bandwagoning of popular culture coupled with life imitating art imitating life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I honestly think girls right now are using this as the new way to deal with the realization we all come to at puberty that being a cis-girl can s-u-c-k. I think the large numbers are a result of it being a socialization/peer pressure thing. There is no doubt there are gender-fluid, non-binary, trans people, etc etc., but it from those I know, they knew from childhood. I am interested to see where this goes over the next 10 years.

+1
I know this is from February, but I think this is a huuuuuuuge part of it. From periods and feeling like an effing moose in your new body but wanting to be body positive to the girls who have noticed that it’s 2022 and the GOP is attacking women’s rights harder than ever before… yeah. I bet not being pigeon-holed as a girl looks damn attractive.

Of course. That's why do many of us are disturbed by the trend to erase women.

There is nothing wrong with being female. There's nothing wrong with medically having female body parts and using them for female things, like birthing a child.

A transmale person who wants to do that is medically a woman, in terms of their reproductive parts. They can be a man everywhere else. They exist on an overlapping piece of a Venn diagram.

Erasing terms like "pregnant women," to make them more comfortable at the expense of about 50% of the human population is not okay. When you take away the word "woman" and replace it with body parts, or worse, euphemisms like "front hole" and "chestfeeding" you are erasing us.

Seeing well-intentioned newscasters discuss abortion rights and refusing to use the word "woman" is making me sick. And tired. It shouldn't be like this. We've failed our daughters and our son's, all of them, that we've erased women like this

+10000. Fashion trends are becoming ultra-girly with flowery dresses becoming the “in” thing and brands like Love Shack Fancy becoming popular. I’ve been wondering if this is a backlash to the trend to make everything gender neutral and erase the differences between men and women. I really hope the pendulum swings back the other way in some regards. I love being a woman. I prefer that we celebrate our differences rather than try to erase them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it more common? No.
Are girls less afraid to talk about it? Yes.

Many women in my age group were closeted lesbians growing up. So yes, girls are less afraid to talk about it nowadays. That’s a good thing.
But there is no way you will convince me that the trans kids were ALWAYS there in the numbers reported now.
Yes there were some. But not hundred in a single high school.
It’s manufactured.

It is manufactured but not in the way the right wing claims. Or rather than manufactured, I think it’s a natural outgrowth of a hyper consumerist society where everything is individualized to each person. And with the rise of social media, people started presenting their self in a curated way. This is simply another angle to that. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t feel real. Our brains are influenced by culture.

I laugh at the right wing critiques. They love individualism when it comes to gun rights, stand your ground laws and corporations as people, but they need their fainting couch because girls aren’t interested in confirming to traditional femininity. After they ban abortion, they should expect the phenomenon of women rejecting sexual with men at all to grow. It’s a bad frickin deal and Gen Z knows it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it more common? No.
Are girls less afraid to talk about it? Yes.

Many women in my age group were closeted lesbians growing up. So yes, girls are less afraid to talk about it nowadays. That’s a good thing.
But there is no way you will convince me that the trans kids were ALWAYS there in the numbers reported now.
Yes there were some. But not hundred in a single high school.
It’s manufactured.

It is manufactured but not in the way the right wing claims. Or rather than manufactured, I think it’s a natural outgrowth of a hyper consumerist society where everything is individualized to each person. And with the rise of social media, people started presenting their self in a curated way. This is simply another angle to that. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t feel real. Our brains are influenced by culture.

I laugh at the right wing critiques. They love individualism when it comes to gun rights, stand your ground laws and corporations as people, but they need their fainting couch because girls aren’t interested in confirming to traditional femininity. After they ban abortion, they should expect the phenomenon of women rejecting sexual with men at all to grow. It’s a bad frickin deal and Gen Z knows it.

I’m not worried about girls rejecting traditional femininity and I agree there is likely an undercurrent brought on my the erosion of rights related to womens’ bodily autonomy.
I don’t think telling girls they can become boys is the answer though.
It seems like every week now, I hear about another friend’s child coming out as NB or trans masculine. Many times is is a child who previously identified as lesbian.

[Anonymous]

There is also a huge trend for girls to say they have various disabilities that they don't have. There is a phenomenon on tiktok where people pretend they have OCD, autism, tourette's , and other disorders. It all stems from the basic female need for attention. So glad I have sons

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is also a huge trend for girls to say they have various disabilities that they don't have. There is a phenomenon on tiktok where people pretend they have OCD, autism, tourette's , and other disorders. It all stems from the basic female need for attention. So glad I have sons

Among my 8th grader’s friends there is a huge overlap in these populations. All like, or aspiring to be like, the person in the right of the PP’s illustration. First there was one, then there were three, then five…