Most men prefer women who are less primped. Just take a shower and put on some comfortable shoes. |
Not from what I have observed, or at least not fairing any better in the husband dept, the women I know who happily paid for their dates or split the check are working full time, splitting the bills, and still do the majority of everything in the household. |
The incels are out in full force. |
I think you have a unique view of feminism. |
It's not gonna work. Come up with a new catch-all shaming tactic. |
That makes no sense. A man pays for dates to show the woman he is a provider/has resources. In the marriage there will be no expectation that a woman would contribute financially or that the man does chores. The man is not dating the woman because she makes money, has a good job or has a financial upside. |
Exactly. Why on earth should I pay as a woman if you asked me out? Of course I would never ask you out so I should never have to pay. I'll only pay if we're in a committed relationship and I'm taking you out for your birthday or something similar. Call me old-fashioned or don't call me at all. |
Ha. Yes to this. I also agree with the PP about at least offering to split the check if you truly aren’t interested in seeing them again. And that is a sincere offer, not a half hearted I hope he says no offer. |
| The insecure men here are confusing me. If you ask someone on a date, you don’t expect to pay? When we were dating I would occasionally pay, but it was for things I planned like when his favorite comedian was in town. Leaving aside “courtship” isn’t it good manners to pay for things you are inviting someone to? |
Are you out of your mind???? Gosh, I feel bad for my son who will soon start to date. I will teach him that any woman who panders to "his masculinity" by making him pay is a fraud. Pay for your own shit lady. |
I have a son, too. He is 15 abs knows he buys an ice cream for girl |
If he wants to buy her ice cream, there is nothing wrong with that. We can all be generous. I have a problem with your statement above that it's somehow his duty as a man to buy, and your duty as a woman to make him feel masculine by letting him buy you stuff. What a load of crap. |
No, the man pays to show HE can contribute equally and not cheap. I live in a good house, go to nice restaurants with my girlfriends and a cheap man who “reconciles” the receipts won’t fit in my lifestyle. When I dated my husband, he paid for dates but our first trip abroad together was split. We contribute equally in the household but he always takes out his wallet when we go out as family |
| I do think you should offer, I say, "do you mind if I treat for (whatever)." The dinner or drinks or whatever. |
+1 If a guy doesn't pay the first few dates he's not that in to you - move on. |