When can a child be expelled for being too much of a disruption

[Anonymous]

I have a feeling I know the answer to this, but would welcome any experiences any of you have had with a very, very bad, disruptive child in your son/daughter's class.

My 10 year old DD has a boy in her class with many problems. I am certain he is on medication of some sort. 4th grade and one of the schools in the Whitman district.

The boy is completely disruptive and rude in class and has been all year. Blocks my daughter from getting into her locker on occasion. Pats girls on the rear end. Makes inappropropriate remarks to other kids.."you have big boobs" etc. Has bitten someone on the playground.

My daughter tells me about instances where he disrupts teaching on a daily basis. Yesterday, music was ruined when he began burping loudly. THe principal actually came into the room and asked him to accompany him to the front office and the kid refused!! After some back and forth, the entire class had to be moved to another room so that the kid could be handled by the principal (since he refused to get up and move) The poor teachers seem not to know what to do.

THis is only a sampling of what goes on.

Parents are on to this child and are tired of his constant disruptions in class and interference with teaching and learning. He does yell out swear words in class too.

When is enough enough? When is a child expelled or told to go elsewhere? Ever? Is this ever done anymore? What are you experiences? IN my day, long long ago, a teacher actually would grab you and make you sit in the corner or out in the hallway, or go to the principal to be paddled. Yes, paddled. The poor teachers are powerless to this child and cannot lift a finger.


Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Paddling will not help a child with a mental health or other disability. It sounds like he has a lot going on. It isn't something an average teacher can or should deal with.

The big issue is it is very hard to get kids transferred as there are not enough placements and the public schools are very resistant to paying for private schools, like they did in the past. So, many kids have inappropriate placements.

[Anonymous]

My kid was in private school and we left because of such kids. I am not surprised that W schools will get their quotas of such kids as well. They are the same demographics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid was in private school and we left because of such kids. I am not surprised that W schools will get their quotas of such kids as well. They are the same demographics.

You mean you left a private school due to the behavioral issues of another student? Can't private schools ask such a disruptive child to leave?

[Anonymous]

I think that MCPS has adopted a no suspension policy, except for cases of violence.

[Anonymous]

MCPS has a behavior intervantion plan policy. You can find it on the website. MCPS also offeres behavioral and emotional support programs at certain schools throughout the system. Some kids get transferred into such a program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid was in private school and we left because of such kids. I am not surprised that W schools will get their quotas of such kids as well. They are the same demographics.

You mean you left a private school due to the behavioral issues of another student? Can't private schools ask such a disruptive child to leave?

Many of the disruptive kids in public school end up in private.

[Anonymous]

You ruined your position op when you got to paddling. You don't understand much about child behavior.

The kid has issues and needs a behavior plan and perhaps a change in placement.

[Anonymous]

What school system?

[Anonymous]

Well first off, you need to show a little compassion here for this "very, very bad" child. I know it is hard when this is affecting your child. All you can do is have your daughter report things that happen to her personally and try to stay away from this boy. My son dealt with a similar situation last year, he was not being personally harassed but learned to deal with the distractions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well first off, you need to show a little compassion here for this "very, very bad" child. I know it is hard when this is affecting your child. All you can do is have your daughter report things that happen to her personally and try to stay away from this boy. My son dealt with a similar situation last year, he was not being personally harassed but learned to deal with the distractions.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

The child most likely has an IEP so if this is the case, don't hold your breath for him being expelled. I would report anything to the teacher though. There usually has to be a certain amount of documentation before a child's placement can be changed. It sounds like he might have ADHD and maybe Tourette's. He can't help it so have some compassion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well first off, you need to show a little compassion here for this "very, very bad" child. I know it is hard when this is affecting your child. All you can do is have your daughter report things that happen to her personally and try to stay away from this boy. My son dealt with a similar situation last year, he was not being personally harassed but learned to deal with the distractions.

In another thread about HSs, people were complaining about disruptive kids, and how those schools that have them are terrible. Here, the response is that you should have compassion. But, these ES kids that have these issues grow up to be HS kids that can cause disruptions as well. People don't seem to have much compassion for those HS kids. At what point does the "compassion" convert to "hooligans"? Not saying we shouldn't have compassion for kids, but I just find the dichotomy puzzling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The child most likely has an IEP so if this is the case, don't hold your breath for him being expelled. I would report anything to the teacher though. There usually has to be a certain amount of documentation before a child's placement can be changed. It sounds like he might have ADHD and maybe Tourette's. He can't help it so have some compassion.

Typical DCUM response. And the rest of the kids suffer while we are having compassion. Bleeech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
In another thread about HSs, people were complaining about disruptive kids, and how those schools that have them are terrible. Here, the response is that you should have compassion. But, these ES kids that have these issues grow up to be HS kids that can cause disruptions as well. People don't seem to have much compassion for those HS kids. At what point does the "compassion" convert to "hooligans"? Not saying we shouldn't have compassion for kids, but I just find the dichotomy puzzling.

PP, here's how it works, at least on DCUM: Disruptive children who live in Bethesda and Potomac deserve compassion. Disruptive children who live elsewhere are hooligans.

Disclaimer: I don't personally endorse this point of view.