PSA: Please do not host a Christian seder

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Anonymous wrote:I also want to point out that most of the specifications around how we do the Seder aren’t in the Torah at all (the only overlap we have, textually, between us and Christians). They’re in the Talmud, the primary text of Rabbinical Judaism, which specifies traditional Jewish laws.

So by taking those specifications and putting Jesus in it, you’re literally drawing from a completely *Jewish* legal text. You’re not even taking from the Bible at all.

There are very specific symbolic links between the Seder and Christian Faith. https://www.gotquestions.org/Passover-Seder.html

That’s not the Passover Seder as Jews celebrate it. Again, that did not exist until after Jesus died.

Let me be more specific: What that article does is insert Christian meaning into something that did not exist during Jesus’s time and which has nothing to do with Jesus.

The actual Passover Seder, per se was not practiced during Jesus’ time, but everything celebrated in the Seder was known to him and understood by Christians to point to him.

so in your view, when Jews celebrate their seders tonight, they are actually pointing towards Jesus?

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either.

Most of us don't!

I know of ZERO Christians who host Seders. BUT, I know of MANY, MANY, MANY Jews how have Christmas trees!!

Whoa. Calm down.

First of all, just because you don’t know any doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Second, a Christmas tree is hardly equivalent to a Passover Seder.

Right... Because it doesn’t impact your religion so it doesn’t matter.

Hardly. First of all, most Jewish families don’t have a Christmas tree. Interfaith families do, but hardly any wholly Jewish families.

Second, the Christmas tree is not a religious symbol. It’s not like a nativity scene.

Thank you for clarifying what is a religious symbol for Christians! I’ll follow your lead and clarify what you should consider a religious symbol in Judaism, sounds good?

If a Christmas tree is generally considered a religious symbol, please provide evidence of such, and I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. We’ve provided ample evidence of why it’s inappropriate for Christians to have a Christian Seder.

Your evidence is that Christians should trash half their holy book because many prophets and traditions overlap with Judaism. You keep saying Passover is Easter when it is not. You want to erase half of the Christian tradition because you think the stories in the Old Testament/Torah/Qran belong only to Jews. That’s a nonstarter. I do not accept that Passover that is described in the Bible amounts to appropriation or that it is Easter—a separate holiday.

Dude. Where is the Passover Seder in the bible? Where is the matzoh, the charoset, the bitter herbs dipped in salt water? The Passover seder is a Jewish religious rite. The Christian religious rites centered around the story of Exodus and Jesus’s Last Supper, and the analogy of Jesus to the lamb sacrificed to save the Israelites is Easter. Full stop. In addition you have the Eucharist if you are Catholic or your church has communion. Nobody is saying you cannot celebrate Easter.

It’s in Exodus.

I can understand that the term Seder has specific meaning relating to reading the Haggadah and specific blessings and traditions. Since Christians aren’t doing that, I can see why you wouldn’t want them calling their Passover meal a Seder. However, I do not understand trying to erase Passover from the Bible and Christianity. It is not Easter.

Would you prefer that Christians call their Passover meal a Passover supper? This is actually what most churches do btw.

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Anonymous wrote:The Passover that is described in the Bible is not the rabbinical Seder. It is, at best, Passover as it was celebrated at the Second Temple, which had no resemblance to how Jews celebrated it post 70 CE.

If you want to acknowledge the pre-rabbinical Seder and the Last Supper, eat lamb. Wait — you do that!

Why are you telling people how to celebrate their religious beliefs?

nobody is saying that. we’re saying not to ape Jewish rites that have nothing to do with Christianity because you are so apparently uneducated about your own religion that you don’t understand where the Exodus story, Christ’s sacrifice as the “Paschal Lamb,” and the Last Supper actually reside in your own religion.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either.

Most of us don't!

I know of ZERO Christians who host Seders. BUT, I know of MANY, MANY, MANY Jews how have Christmas trees!!

Whoa. Calm down.

First of all, just because you don’t know any doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Second, a Christmas tree is hardly equivalent to a Passover Seder.

Right... Because it doesn’t impact your religion so it doesn’t matter.

Hardly. First of all, most Jewish families don’t have a Christmas tree. Interfaith families do, but hardly any wholly Jewish families.

Second, the Christmas tree is not a religious symbol. It’s not like a nativity scene.

Thank you for clarifying what is a religious symbol for Christians! I’ll follow your lead and clarify what you should consider a religious symbol in Judaism, sounds good?

If a Christmas tree is generally considered a religious symbol, please provide evidence of such, and I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. We’ve provided ample evidence of why it’s inappropriate for Christians to have a Christian Seder.

Your evidence is that Christians should trash half their holy book because many prophets and traditions overlap with Judaism. You keep saying Passover is Easter when it is not. You want to erase half of the Christian tradition because you think the stories in the Old Testament/Torah/Qran belong only to Jews. That’s a nonstarter. I do not accept that Passover that is described in the Bible amounts to appropriation or that it is Easter—a separate holiday.

Dude. Where is the Passover Seder in the bible? Where is the matzoh, the charoset, the bitter herbs dipped in salt water? The Passover seder is a Jewish religious rite. The Christian religious rites centered around the story of Exodus and Jesus’s Last Supper, and the analogy of Jesus to the lamb sacrificed to save the Israelites is Easter. Full stop. In addition you have the Eucharist if you are Catholic or your church has communion. Nobody is saying you cannot celebrate Easter.

It’s in Exodus.

I can understand that the term Seder has specific meaning relating to reading the Haggadah and specific blessings and traditions. Since Christians aren’t doing that, I can see why you wouldn’t want them calling their Passover meal a Seder. However, I do not understand trying to erase Passover from the Bible and Christianity. It is not Easter.

Would you prefer that Christians call their Passover meal a Passover supper? This is actually what most churches do btw.

for the kajillionth time nobody is erasing Exodus. the seder is not in any Chrisitian religious text. Please discuss the meaning of Easter and the Eucharist with your priest or pastor.

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Anonymous wrote:I also want to point out that most of the specifications around how we do the Seder aren’t in the Torah at all (the only overlap we have, textually, between us and Christians). They’re in the Talmud, the primary text of Rabbinical Judaism, which specifies traditional Jewish laws.

So by taking those specifications and putting Jesus in it, you’re literally drawing from a completely *Jewish* legal text. You’re not even taking from the Bible at all.

There are very specific symbolic links between the Seder and Christian Faith. https://www.gotquestions.org/Passover-Seder.html

That’s not the Passover Seder as Jews celebrate it. Again, that did not exist until after Jesus died.

Let me be more specific: What that article does is insert Christian meaning into something that did not exist during Jesus’s time and which has nothing to do with Jesus.

The actual Passover Seder, per se was not practiced during Jesus’ time, but everything celebrated in the Seder was known to him and understood by Christians to point to him.

This is factually wrong. The rabbinical Seder was not developed until after he died.

How is it factually wrong? Just because Jesus was not alive when the Passover Seder tradition started does not mean the elements within the Seder don’t hold religious significance to Christians. For instance, “(For Christians) the meaning of the Seder’s ritual of the matzohs is understood with clues from the New Testament. The Trinity is pictured in the matzohs. The first matzoh that remains in the bag throughout the Seder represents Ha Av, the Father whom no man sees. The third matzoh represents the Ruach Ha Kodesh, the Holy Spirit who dwells within us. And the second matzoh, the broken one, represents Ha Ben, the Son. The reason the middle matzoh is broken is to picture the broken body of Christ (1 Corinthians 11:24). The half put back in the echad represents Jesus’ divine nature; the other half, wrapped in a linen cloth and separated from the echad represents Jesus’ humanity as He remained on earth.“

It’s wrong because you’re imposing Christian meaning onto something that did not exist at that time. It’s religious appropriation.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either.

Most of us don't!

I know of ZERO Christians who host Seders. BUT, I know of MANY, MANY, MANY Jews how have Christmas trees!!

Whoa. Calm down.

First of all, just because you don’t know any doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Second, a Christmas tree is hardly equivalent to a Passover Seder.

Right... Because it doesn’t impact your religion so it doesn’t matter.

Hardly. First of all, most Jewish families don’t have a Christmas tree. Interfaith families do, but hardly any wholly Jewish families.

Second, the Christmas tree is not a religious symbol. It’s not like a nativity scene.

Thank you for clarifying what is a religious symbol for Christians! I’ll follow your lead and clarify what you should consider a religious symbol in Judaism, sounds good?

If a Christmas tree is generally considered a religious symbol, please provide evidence of such, and I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. We’ve provided ample evidence of why it’s inappropriate for Christians to have a Christian Seder.

Your evidence is that Christians should trash half their holy book because many prophets and traditions overlap with Judaism. You keep saying Passover is Easter when it is not. You want to erase half of the Christian tradition because you think the stories in the Old Testament/Torah/Qran belong only to Jews. That’s a nonstarter. I do not accept that Passover that is described in the Bible amounts to appropriation or that it is Easter—a separate holiday.

Dude. Where is the Passover Seder in the bible? Where is the matzoh, the charoset, the bitter herbs dipped in salt water? The Passover seder is a Jewish religious rite. The Christian religious rites centered around the story of Exodus and Jesus’s Last Supper, and the analogy of Jesus to the lamb sacrificed to save the Israelites is Easter. Full stop. In addition you have the Eucharist if you are Catholic or your church has communion. Nobody is saying you cannot celebrate Easter.

Here are some of the ways some Christians see Jesus in the Seder. Yes, they interpret it in terms of Jesus because they believe everything in the Old Testament /Tanakh is leading up to Jesus. You don’t have to agree with them or participate.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Passover-Seder.html

Yikes. You don't understand that the Old Testament is different from the Tanakhy-thing? You are ignorant about Christianity. Perhaps you should re-read your own canon instead of cultural appropriation?

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either.

Most of us don't!

I know of ZERO Christians who host Seders. BUT, I know of MANY, MANY, MANY Jews how have Christmas trees!!

Whoa. Calm down.

First of all, just because you don’t know any doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Second, a Christmas tree is hardly equivalent to a Passover Seder.

Right... Because it doesn’t impact your religion so it doesn’t matter.

Hardly. First of all, most Jewish families don’t have a Christmas tree. Interfaith families do, but hardly any wholly Jewish families.

Second, the Christmas tree is not a religious symbol. It’s not like a nativity scene.

Thank you for clarifying what is a religious symbol for Christians! I’ll follow your lead and clarify what you should consider a religious symbol in Judaism, sounds good?

If a Christmas tree is generally considered a religious symbol, please provide evidence of such, and I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. We’ve provided ample evidence of why it’s inappropriate for Christians to have a Christian Seder.

Your evidence is that Christians should trash half their holy book because many prophets and traditions overlap with Judaism. You keep saying Passover is Easter when it is not. You want to erase half of the Christian tradition because you think the stories in the Old Testament/Torah/Qran belong only to Jews. That’s a nonstarter. I do not accept that Passover that is described in the Bible amounts to appropriation or that it is Easter—a separate holiday.

Dude. Where is the Passover Seder in the bible? Where is the matzoh, the charoset, the bitter herbs dipped in salt water? The Passover seder is a Jewish religious rite. The Christian religious rites centered around the story of Exodus and Jesus’s Last Supper, and the analogy of Jesus to the lamb sacrificed to save the Israelites is Easter. Full stop. In addition you have the Eucharist if you are Catholic or your church has communion. Nobody is saying you cannot celebrate Easter.

It’s in Exodus.

I can understand that the term Seder has specific meaning relating to reading the Haggadah and specific blessings and traditions. Since Christians aren’t doing that, I can see why you wouldn’t want them calling their Passover meal a Seder. However, I do not understand trying to erase Passover from the Bible and Christianity. It is not Easter.

Would you prefer that Christians call their Passover meal a Passover supper? This is actually what most churches do btw.

for the kajillionth time nobody is erasing Exodus. the seder is not in any Chrisitian religious text. Please discuss the meaning of Easter and the Eucharist with your priest or pastor.

DP. So that is a yes. Btw the meaning of Easter is to celebrate Jesus rising. You keep claiming that in Christianity Passover = Easter. It does not.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either.

Most of us don't!

I know of ZERO Christians who host Seders. BUT, I know of MANY, MANY, MANY Jews how have Christmas trees!!

Whoa. Calm down.

First of all, just because you don’t know any doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Second, a Christmas tree is hardly equivalent to a Passover Seder.

Right... Because it doesn’t impact your religion so it doesn’t matter.

Hardly. First of all, most Jewish families don’t have a Christmas tree. Interfaith families do, but hardly any wholly Jewish families.

Second, the Christmas tree is not a religious symbol. It’s not like a nativity scene.

Thank you for clarifying what is a religious symbol for Christians! I’ll follow your lead and clarify what you should consider a religious symbol in Judaism, sounds good?

If a Christmas tree is generally considered a religious symbol, please provide evidence of such, and I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. We’ve provided ample evidence of why it’s inappropriate for Christians to have a Christian Seder.

Your evidence is that Christians should trash half their holy book because many prophets and traditions overlap with Judaism. You keep saying Passover is Easter when it is not. You want to erase half of the Christian tradition because you think the stories in the Old Testament/Torah/Qran belong only to Jews. That’s a nonstarter. I do not accept that Passover that is described in the Bible amounts to appropriation or that it is Easter—a separate holiday.

Dude. Where is the Passover Seder in the bible? Where is the matzoh, the charoset, the bitter herbs dipped in salt water? The Passover seder is a Jewish religious rite. The Christian religious rites centered around the story of Exodus and Jesus’s Last Supper, and the analogy of Jesus to the lamb sacrificed to save the Israelites is Easter. Full stop. In addition you have the Eucharist if you are Catholic or your church has communion. Nobody is saying you cannot celebrate Easter.

It’s in Exodus.

I can understand that the term Seder has specific meaning relating to reading the Haggadah and specific blessings and traditions. Since Christians aren’t doing that, I can see why you wouldn’t want them calling their Passover meal a Seder. However, I do not understand trying to erase Passover from the Bible and Christianity. It is not Easter.

Would you prefer that Christians call their Passover meal a Passover supper? This is actually what most churches do btw.

for the kajillionth time nobody is erasing Exodus. the seder is not in any Chrisitian religious text. Please discuss the meaning of Easter and the Eucharist with your priest or pastor.

DP. So that is a yes. Btw the meaning of Easter is to celebrate Jesus rising. You keep claiming that in Christianity Passover = Easter. It does not.

Right, and has been explained, we do the Passover Supper to recount on Jews deserved to be enslaved and deserve whatever else us has happened to them at our hands or otherwise, because they won't accept the Head Hebrew in Charge. Now, pass the fava beans.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either.

Most of us don't!

I know of ZERO Christians who host Seders. BUT, I know of MANY, MANY, MANY Jews how have Christmas trees!!

Whoa. Calm down.

First of all, just because you don’t know any doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Second, a Christmas tree is hardly equivalent to a Passover Seder.

Right... Because it doesn’t impact your religion so it doesn’t matter.

Hardly. First of all, most Jewish families don’t have a Christmas tree. Interfaith families do, but hardly any wholly Jewish families.

Second, the Christmas tree is not a religious symbol. It’s not like a nativity scene.

Thank you for clarifying what is a religious symbol for Christians! I’ll follow your lead and clarify what you should consider a religious symbol in Judaism, sounds good?

If a Christmas tree is generally considered a religious symbol, please provide evidence of such, and I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. We’ve provided ample evidence of why it’s inappropriate for Christians to have a Christian Seder.

Your evidence is that Christians should trash half their holy book because many prophets and traditions overlap with Judaism. You keep saying Passover is Easter when it is not. You want to erase half of the Christian tradition because you think the stories in the Old Testament/Torah/Qran belong only to Jews. That’s a nonstarter. I do not accept that Passover that is described in the Bible amounts to appropriation or that it is Easter—a separate holiday.

Dude. Where is the Passover Seder in the bible? Where is the matzoh, the charoset, the bitter herbs dipped in salt water? The Passover seder is a Jewish religious rite. The Christian religious rites centered around the story of Exodus and Jesus’s Last Supper, and the analogy of Jesus to the lamb sacrificed to save the Israelites is Easter. Full stop. In addition you have the Eucharist if you are Catholic or your church has communion. Nobody is saying you cannot celebrate Easter.

It’s in Exodus.

I can understand that the term Seder has specific meaning relating to reading the Haggadah and specific blessings and traditions. Since Christians aren’t doing that, I can see why you wouldn’t want them calling their Passover meal a Seder. However, I do not understand trying to erase Passover from the Bible and Christianity. It is not Easter.

Would you prefer that Christians call their Passover meal a Passover supper? This is actually what most churches do btw.

for the kajillionth time nobody is erasing Exodus. the seder is not in any Chrisitian religious text. Please discuss the meaning of Easter and the Eucharist with your priest or pastor.

DP. So that is a yes. Btw the meaning of Easter is to celebrate Jesus rising. You keep claiming that in Christianity Passover = Easter. It does not.

Please, listen closely to the liturgy wherever you celebrate Easter. The bible readings will include the Last Supper as well as discussing of Jesus as the Paschal Lamb - the connection to the Exodus story. Jesus’s death for mankind reprises the paschal sacrifice in Exodus. If your church does communion, the wafer (unleavened bread) also connects to Exodus and Jesus’s fleshly sacrifice. This is literally THE WAY Christianity incorporates Jesus’s last supper and the story of Exodus. The rabbinical Jewish ritual of the seder is something wholly different and Jewish.

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either.

Most of us don't!

I know of ZERO Christians who host Seders. BUT, I know of MANY, MANY, MANY Jews how have Christmas trees!!

Whoa. Calm down.

First of all, just because you don’t know any doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Second, a Christmas tree is hardly equivalent to a Passover Seder.

Right... Because it doesn’t impact your religion so it doesn’t matter.

Hardly. First of all, most Jewish families don’t have a Christmas tree. Interfaith families do, but hardly any wholly Jewish families.

Second, the Christmas tree is not a religious symbol. It’s not like a nativity scene.

Thank you for clarifying what is a religious symbol for Christians! I’ll follow your lead and clarify what you should consider a religious symbol in Judaism, sounds good?

If a Christmas tree is generally considered a religious symbol, please provide evidence of such, and I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. We’ve provided ample evidence of why it’s inappropriate for Christians to have a Christian Seder.

Your evidence is that Christians should trash half their holy book because many prophets and traditions overlap with Judaism. You keep saying Passover is Easter when it is not. You want to erase half of the Christian tradition because you think the stories in the Old Testament/Torah/Qran belong only to Jews. That’s a nonstarter. I do not accept that Passover that is described in the Bible amounts to appropriation or that it is Easter—a separate holiday.

Dude. Where is the Passover Seder in the bible? Where is the matzoh, the charoset, the bitter herbs dipped in salt water? The Passover seder is a Jewish religious rite. The Christian religious rites centered around the story of Exodus and Jesus’s Last Supper, and the analogy of Jesus to the lamb sacrificed to save the Israelites is Easter. Full stop. In addition you have the Eucharist if you are Catholic or your church has communion. Nobody is saying you cannot celebrate Easter.

It’s in Exodus.

I can understand that the term Seder has specific meaning relating to reading the Haggadah and specific blessings and traditions. Since Christians aren’t doing that, I can see why you wouldn’t want them calling their Passover meal a Seder. However, I do not understand trying to erase Passover from the Bible and Christianity. It is not Easter.

Would you prefer that Christians call their Passover meal a Passover supper? This is actually what most churches do btw.

for the kajillionth time nobody is erasing Exodus. the seder is not in any Chrisitian religious text. Please discuss the meaning of Easter and the Eucharist with your priest or pastor.

DP. So that is a yes. Btw the meaning of Easter is to celebrate Jesus rising. You keep claiming that in Christianity Passover = Easter. It does not.

to clarify: there IS no passover Seder in Christianity because seders are Jewish, not Christian. The way you connect to Exodus and the Last Supper is through Easter and the Eucharist. A Christian seder is either an oxymoron or changing the seder into the story of Jesus. In which case, it is not a seder, it is Easter.

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DP. So that is a yes. Btw the meaning of Easter is to celebrate Jesus rising. You keep claiming that in Christianity Passover = Easter. It does not.


to clarify: there IS no passover Seder in Christianity because seders are Jewish, not Christian. The way you connect to Exodus and the Last Supper is through Easter and the Eucharist. A Christian seder is either an oxymoron or changing the seder into the story of Jesus. In which case, it is not a seder, it is Easter.

I didn’t say there was a Seder in Christianity. Do you understand what DP means?

Additionally, you have spent morning and night for days explaining your religion. But you are not Christian, so stop trying to explain a religion you do not understand and do not practice. Any Christians on this thread need to stop trying to explain a religion that is not their own and that they do not practice.

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DP. So that is a yes. Btw the meaning of Easter is to celebrate Jesus rising. You keep claiming that in Christianity Passover = Easter. It does not.


to clarify: there IS no passover Seder in Christianity because seders are Jewish, not Christian. The way you connect to Exodus and the Last Supper is through Easter and the Eucharist. A Christian seder is either an oxymoron or changing the seder into the story of Jesus. In which case, it is not a seder, it is Easter.

I didn’t say there was a Seder in Christianity. Do you understand what DP means?

Additionally, you have spent morning and night for days explaining your religion. But you are not Christian, so stop trying to explain a religion you do not understand and do not practice. Any Christians on this thread need to stop trying to explain a religion that is not their own and that they do not practice.

I’m actually uniquely well situated to explain this because I was raised Christian (in a house that actually discussed theology) and am now raising my child Jewish.

So I’d appreciate you setting out exactly what you think a seder is for you, that you cannot get through Easter and the Eucharist. Please also explain your understanding of Christ as the Paschal Lamb.

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DP. So that is a yes. Btw the meaning of Easter is to celebrate Jesus rising. You keep claiming that in Christianity Passover = Easter. It does not.


to clarify: there IS no passover Seder in Christianity because seders are Jewish, not Christian. The way you connect to Exodus and the Last Supper is through Easter and the Eucharist. A Christian seder is either an oxymoron or changing the seder into the story of Jesus. In which case, it is not a seder, it is Easter.

I didn’t say there was a Seder in Christianity. Do you understand what DP means?

Additionally, you have spent morning and night for days explaining your religion. But you are not Christian, so stop trying to explain a religion you do not understand and do not practice. Any Christians on this thread need to stop trying to explain a religion that is not their own and that they do not practice.

I’m actually uniquely well situated to explain this because I was raised Christian (in a house that actually discussed theology) and am now raising my child Jewish.

So I’d appreciate you setting out exactly what you think a seder is for you, that you cannot get through Easter and the Eucharist. Please also explain your understanding of Christ as the Paschal Lamb.

I’m bolding because you seem intent on arguing and less on reading.

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DP. So that is a yes. Btw the meaning of Easter is to celebrate Jesus rising. You keep claiming that in Christianity Passover = Easter. It does not.


to clarify: there IS no passover Seder in Christianity because seders are Jewish, not Christian. The way you connect to Exodus and the Last Supper is through Easter and the Eucharist. A Christian seder is either an oxymoron or changing the seder into the story of Jesus. In which case, it is not a seder, it is Easter.

I didn’t say there was a Seder in Christianity. Do you understand what DP means?

Additionally, you have spent morning and night for days explaining your religion. But you are not Christian, so stop trying to explain a religion you do not understand and do not practice. Any Christians on this thread need to stop trying to explain a religion that is not their own and that they do not practice.

I’m actually uniquely well situated to explain this because I was raised Christian (in a house that actually discussed theology) and am now raising my child Jewish.

So I’d appreciate you setting out exactly what you think a seder is for you, that you cannot get through Easter and the Eucharist. Please also explain your understanding of Christ as the Paschal Lamb.

I’m bolding because you seem intent on arguing and less on reading.

ok so ... why are you holding a “Christian seder”? What can that possibly mean? As others have explained ad nauseum, if your idea of a “Christian seder” is to make it about Jesus (eg the broken matzo represents Christ’s broke body) that’s exactly what people are telling you is very offensive. If your idea is that there is no other way to put Exodus and the Paschal sacrifice into a Christian context, I’m telling you that you are wrong because that is Easter and the Eucharist.

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DP. So that is a yes. Btw the meaning of Easter is to celebrate Jesus rising. You keep claiming that in Christianity Passover = Easter. It does not.


to clarify: there IS no passover Seder in Christianity because seders are Jewish, not Christian. The way you connect to Exodus and the Last Supper is through Easter and the Eucharist. A Christian seder is either an oxymoron or changing the seder into the story of Jesus. In which case, it is not a seder, it is Easter.

I didn’t say there was a Seder in Christianity. Do you understand what DP means?

Additionally, you have spent morning and night for days explaining your religion. But you are not Christian, so stop trying to explain a religion you do not understand and do not practice. Any Christians on this thread need to stop trying to explain a religion that is not their own and that they do not practice.

I’m actually uniquely well situated to explain this because I was raised Christian (in a house that actually discussed theology) and am now raising my child Jewish.

So I’d appreciate you setting out exactly what you think a seder is for you, that you cannot get through Easter and the Eucharist. Please also explain your understanding of Christ as the Paschal Lamb.

I’m bolding because you seem intent on arguing and less on reading.

ok so ... why are you holding a “Christian seder”? What can that possibly mean? As others have explained ad nauseum, if your idea of a “Christian seder” is to make it about Jesus (eg the broken matzo represents Christ’s broke body) that’s exactly what people are telling you is very offensive. If your idea is that there is no other way to put Exodus and the Paschal sacrifice into a Christian context, I’m telling you that you are wrong because that is Easter and the Eucharist.

I am not holding a Christian Seder. Where did I say that I was? Again, you are so intent on arguing that you are failing to read.