Help me understand Republican women in their 30s and 40s

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

And we told you that we don't care if you think we are feminists and we don't care what you think we should limit our attention to in terms of issues. We've repeatedly told you what issues matter to us. The issues that you listed are nice to have but right now, we don't even have basics like security and economy working well. I also don't agree with "equal wages" when it's just a euphemism for socialism.

Let Fox and OAN continue to do all your thinking for you. You haven’t had an independent thought since your father started brainwashing you as a child. Oh no! I was mean online (unlike Trump who is mean online, in person and in policy)! Now you’ll have to go make a donation to Trump in retaliation!

It’s always remarkable to me how freely leftists engage in explicit sexism when they encounter a woman who doesn’t fawn over them.

The conservative machine and media brainwashes everyone who's exposed to it for long enough, regardless of gender. Weird that you are making this about "sexism" - probably the same poster from above who was randomly accusing people of misogyny upthread, without any sound basis for doing so. I have plenty of relatives male and female alike who spout the FOX News and other right wing talking points with zero self-awareness, zero critical thinking, zero logic applied, and not a single millisecond devoted to fact checking their talking points. I call that brainwashing.

Aren’t you the poster who told the female PP who had the temerity to disagree with you that she had been brainwashed by her father? And yet you simultaneously believe you aren’t a raging sexist? Man, the lack of self-awareness is quite something to see.

I realize that you don’t believe women are capable of independent thought, as that is currently the position of the progressive left and you just freely demonstrated that, but that can’t stop everyone else from seeing your deeply patriarchal and anti-woman world view.

Nope. There are multiple posters in this thread. How about responding to comments based on what they actually contain on their own, rather than trying to conflate with what someone else said or what you imagined they thought while posting?

Your entire retort completely missed the mark for that reason.

Do you even understand how DCUM works.

Uh, yeah. It's a message board, where hundreds of people visit and post anonymously. Do YOU understand how it works? Apparently you think you are arguing with only one person when that's not the case.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

And we told you that we don't care if you think we are feminists and we don't care what you think we should limit our attention to in terms of issues. We've repeatedly told you what issues matter to us. The issues that you listed are nice to have but right now, we don't even have basics like security and economy working well. I also don't agree with "equal wages" when it's just a euphemism for socialism.

Let Fox and OAN continue to do all your thinking for you. You haven’t had an independent thought since your father started brainwashing you as a child. Oh no! I was mean online (unlike Trump who is mean online, in person and in policy)! Now you’ll have to go make a donation to Trump in retaliation!

Thank you for pointing this out. It is nice to see what democrats really think of women. We are incapable of having our own opinions or thoughts.
Women are just male play things to manipulate.

You entire post is dripping with misogyny and you don't even see it.

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There are 2, possibly 3 posters on here wound up about trans women or pretending to be wound up about trans women. The rest of the posters are not focused on this issue at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

And we told you that we don't care if you think we are feminists and we don't care what you think we should limit our attention to in terms of issues. We've repeatedly told you what issues matter to us. The issues that you listed are nice to have but right now, we don't even have basics like security and economy working well. I also don't agree with "equal wages" when it's just a euphemism for socialism.

Let Fox and OAN continue to do all your thinking for you. You haven’t had an independent thought since your father started brainwashing you as a child. Oh no! I was mean online (unlike Trump who is mean online, in person and in policy)! Now you’ll have to go make a donation to Trump in retaliation!

It’s always remarkable to me how freely leftists engage in explicit sexism when they encounter a woman who doesn’t fawn over them.

The conservative machine and media brainwashes everyone who's exposed to it for long enough, regardless of gender. Weird that you are making this about "sexism" - probably the same poster from above who was randomly accusing people of misogyny upthread, without any sound basis for doing so. I have plenty of relatives male and female alike who spout the FOX News and other right wing talking points with zero self-awareness, zero critical thinking, zero logic applied, and not a single millisecond devoted to fact checking their talking points. I call that brainwashing.

Aren’t you the poster who told the female PP who had the temerity to disagree with you that she had been brainwashed by her father? And yet you simultaneously believe you aren’t a raging sexist? Man, the lack of self-awareness is quite something to see.

I realize that you don’t believe women are capable of independent thought, as that is currently the position of the progressive left and you just freely demonstrated that, but that can’t stop everyone else from seeing your deeply patriarchal and anti-woman world view.

Nope. There are multiple posters in this thread. How about responding to comments based on what they actually contain on their own, rather than trying to conflate with what someone else said or what you imagined they thought while posting?

Your entire retort completely missed the mark for that reason.

Do you even understand how DCUM works.

Uh, yeah. It's a message board, where hundreds of people visit and post anonymously. Do YOU understand how it works? Apparently you think you are arguing with only one person when that's not the case.

You certainly don’t seem to be disputing the idea that someone who disagrees with you must have been brainwashed by her father, as your fellow progressive believes.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

And we told you that we don't care if you think we are feminists and we don't care what you think we should limit our attention to in terms of issues. We've repeatedly told you what issues matter to us. The issues that you listed are nice to have but right now, we don't even have basics like security and economy working well. I also don't agree with "equal wages" when it's just a euphemism for socialism.

Let Fox and OAN continue to do all your thinking for you. You haven’t had an independent thought since your father started brainwashing you as a child. Oh no! I was mean online (unlike Trump who is mean online, in person and in policy)! Now you’ll have to go make a donation to Trump in retaliation!

Thank you for pointing this out. It is nice to see what democrats really think of women. We are incapable of having our own opinions or thoughts.
Women are just male play things to manipulate.

You entire post is dripping with misogyny and you don't even see it.

Yup. And then that poster’s buddy claims there was no sexism in that post. Unbelievable.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

Love how you’ve decided that women need to subvert all their issues. As usual, men are more important to you. Grotesque.

DP... I don't understand this response at all. How is the PP saying men are more important? I didn't see anything to warrant that in the comment you are responding to. The PP was merely asking how issues should be prioritized.

Should every other issue of concern to women be completely subverted and be subordinate in order to deal with trans people in prisons? Another woman's interest in womens health, maternal health, access to affordable childcare, equal wages for women, access to contraception and reproductive health, paid family leave, support for women-owned businesses, anti-discrimination laws against women, addressing domestic violence, human sex trafficking, improved political representation by women, and all of these other issues need to shut up, sit down and take a back seat because you demand the issue of transwomen in women's prisons be the top priority?

All of those other women's issues being deprioritized is exactly what would happen if large numbers of women agreed with the PP and made their sole focus to be outrage over trans women in women's prisons and as a result, voted a straight R ticket. Thankfully most women don't agree with the PP. While sure, they don't want to see other women being abused in prison, they have the sense to not throw away everything else that has been so hard fought over their lifetimes for that one issue by voting R.

Then why are you worried? If you are so sure that most women in the US feel embraced, valued, and supported by Democrats, and that the Democrats don’t treat women like second-class citizens, then you have nothing to worry about. 👍

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

Love how you’ve decided that women need to subvert all their issues. As usual, men are more important to you. Grotesque.

DP... I don't understand this response at all. How is the PP saying men are more important? I didn't see anything to warrant that in the comment you are responding to. The PP was merely asking how issues should be prioritized.

Should every other issue of concern to women be completely subverted and be subordinate in order to deal with trans people in prisons? Another woman's interest in womens health, maternal health, access to affordable childcare, equal wages for women, access to contraception and reproductive health, paid family leave, support for women-owned businesses, anti-discrimination laws against women, addressing domestic violence, human sex trafficking, improved political representation by women, and all of these other issues need to shut up, sit down and take a back seat because you demand the issue of transwomen in women's prisons be the top priority?

All of those other women's issues being deprioritized is exactly what would happen if large numbers of women agreed with the PP and made their sole focus to be outrage over trans women in women's prisons and as a result, voted a straight R ticket. Thankfully most women don't agree with the PP. While sure, they don't want to see other women being abused in prison, they have the sense to not throw away everything else that has been so hard fought over their lifetimes for that one issue by voting R.

Then why are you worried? If you are so sure that most women in the US feel embraced, valued, and supported by Democrats, and that the Democrats don’t treat women like second-class citizens, then you have nothing to worry about. 👍

If you want representation that will try to restore the rights women has for almost 50 years, that is the Democratic party. The GOP destroyed those rights.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

Love how you’ve decided that women need to subvert all their issues. As usual, men are more important to you. Grotesque.

DP... I don't understand this response at all. How is the PP saying men are more important? I didn't see anything to warrant that in the comment you are responding to. The PP was merely asking how issues should be prioritized.

Should every other issue of concern to women be completely subverted and be subordinate in order to deal with trans people in prisons? Another woman's interest in womens health, maternal health, access to affordable childcare, equal wages for women, access to contraception and reproductive health, paid family leave, support for women-owned businesses, anti-discrimination laws against women, addressing domestic violence, human sex trafficking, improved political representation by women, and all of these other issues need to shut up, sit down and take a back seat because you demand the issue of transwomen in women's prisons be the top priority?

All of those other women's issues being deprioritized is exactly what would happen if large numbers of women agreed with the PP and made their sole focus to be outrage over trans women in women's prisons and as a result, voted a straight R ticket. Thankfully most women don't agree with the PP. While sure, they don't want to see other women being abused in prison, they have the sense to not throw away everything else that has been so hard fought over their lifetimes for that one issue by voting R.

Then why are you worried? If you are so sure that most women in the US feel embraced, valued, and supported by Democrats, and that the Democrats don’t treat women like second-class citizens, then you have nothing to worry about. 👍

If you want representation that will try to restore the rights women has for almost 50 years, that is the Democratic party. The GOP destroyed those rights.

Okay. If, as you claimed, most women voters feel that way about the Democratic Party, then you should have nothing to worry about.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

Love how you’ve decided that women need to subvert all their issues. As usual, men are more important to you. Grotesque.

DP... I don't understand this response at all. How is the PP saying men are more important? I didn't see anything to warrant that in the comment you are responding to. The PP was merely asking how issues should be prioritized.

Should every other issue of concern to women be completely subverted and be subordinate in order to deal with trans people in prisons? Another woman's interest in womens health, maternal health, access to affordable childcare, equal wages for women, access to contraception and reproductive health, paid family leave, support for women-owned businesses, anti-discrimination laws against women, addressing domestic violence, human sex trafficking, improved political representation by women, and all of these other issues need to shut up, sit down and take a back seat because you demand the issue of transwomen in women's prisons be the top priority?

All of those other women's issues being deprioritized is exactly what would happen if large numbers of women agreed with the PP and made their sole focus to be outrage over trans women in women's prisons and as a result, voted a straight R ticket. Thankfully most women don't agree with the PP. While sure, they don't want to see other women being abused in prison, they have the sense to not throw away everything else that has been so hard fought over their lifetimes for that one issue by voting R.

Then why are you worried? If you are so sure that most women in the US feel embraced, valued, and supported by Democrats, and that the Democrats don’t treat women like second-class citizens, then you have nothing to worry about. 👍

If you want representation that will try to restore the rights women has for almost 50 years, that is the Democratic party. The GOP destroyed those rights.

If anyone can be a woman, there is no need for special rights.

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Anonymous wrote:I definitely understood Bush-era Republicans but I just cannot wrap my mind around how any remotely educated woman today could consider herself a part of the Republican party. Can someone please explain it to me? What is appealing about the Republican party?

Your insulting. You assume the worst in people that don't agree with your beliefs. There's no talking to you, you've made up your mind. Go and talk to one, and not online. You'd be surprised we all agree on most things, less a few interpreted by the media as the unraveling of democracy, which will never happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

Love how you’ve decided that women need to subvert all their issues. As usual, men are more important to you. Grotesque.

DP... I don't understand this response at all. How is the PP saying men are more important? I didn't see anything to warrant that in the comment you are responding to. The PP was merely asking how issues should be prioritized.

Should every other issue of concern to women be completely subverted and be subordinate in order to deal with trans people in prisons? Another woman's interest in womens health, maternal health, access to affordable childcare, equal wages for women, access to contraception and reproductive health, paid family leave, support for women-owned businesses, anti-discrimination laws against women, addressing domestic violence, human sex trafficking, improved political representation by women, and all of these other issues need to shut up, sit down and take a back seat because you demand the issue of transwomen in women's prisons be the top priority?

All of those other women's issues being deprioritized is exactly what would happen if large numbers of women agreed with the PP and made their sole focus to be outrage over trans women in women's prisons and as a result, voted a straight R ticket. Thankfully most women don't agree with the PP. While sure, they don't want to see other women being abused in prison, they have the sense to not throw away everything else that has been so hard fought over their lifetimes for that one issue by voting R.

Then why are you worried? If you are so sure that most women in the US feel embraced, valued, and supported by Democrats, and that the Democrats don’t treat women like second-class citizens, then you have nothing to worry about. 👍

If you want representation that will try to restore the rights women has for almost 50 years, that is the Democratic party. The GOP destroyed those rights.

Okay. If, as you claimed, most women voters feel that way about the Democratic Party, then you should have nothing to worry about.

Most do. And polling shows that women are more and more increasingly leaning liberal and pro-Democrat than their predecessors did. Seems to me this thread is about understanding the phenomenon and rationale of women who don't.

Lately in this thread it just seems to be "you liberals made me conservative" as though you have no control over your own choices and decisions while at the same time bristling over the notion that growing up in a household filled with conservative ideology can't possibly have any impact on someone's choices (a complete contradiction) - and how the suggestion of being influenced by your household and parents somehow misogynistic. And that's frankly dead wrong. I myself grew up in a very conservative military household and for that reason I had very conservative beliefs and values. Later on in life I realized how many of those conservative beliefs I had basically been indoctrinated in by my parents were often regressive, were selfish, greedy and frankly sometimes sociopathic, not rooted in reality and so on. I've seen for myself how people get indoctrinated by conservative media, which also teaches them to avoid and distrust any other sources of information. It really is a type of brainwashing. And' I've seen that same evolution I had from young adult conservatism to more liberal viewpoints repeated with many of my friends and relatives as well. None of that has anything whatsoever to do with misogyny.

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Republicans - a belief in private property rights and seeing just how much .gov screws up first hand.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

Love how you’ve decided that women need to subvert all their issues. As usual, men are more important to you. Grotesque.

DP... I don't understand this response at all. How is the PP saying men are more important? I didn't see anything to warrant that in the comment you are responding to. The PP was merely asking how issues should be prioritized.

Should every other issue of concern to women be completely subverted and be subordinate in order to deal with trans people in prisons? Another woman's interest in womens health, maternal health, access to affordable childcare, equal wages for women, access to contraception and reproductive health, paid family leave, support for women-owned businesses, anti-discrimination laws against women, addressing domestic violence, human sex trafficking, improved political representation by women, and all of these other issues need to shut up, sit down and take a back seat because you demand the issue of transwomen in women's prisons be the top priority?

All of those other women's issues being deprioritized is exactly what would happen if large numbers of women agreed with the PP and made their sole focus to be outrage over trans women in women's prisons and as a result, voted a straight R ticket. Thankfully most women don't agree with the PP. While sure, they don't want to see other women being abused in prison, they have the sense to not throw away everything else that has been so hard fought over their lifetimes for that one issue by voting R.

Then why are you worried? If you are so sure that most women in the US feel embraced, valued, and supported by Democrats, and that the Democrats don’t treat women like second-class citizens, then you have nothing to worry about. 👍

If you want representation that will try to restore the rights women has for almost 50 years, that is the Democratic party. The GOP destroyed those rights.

Okay. If, as you claimed, most women voters feel that way about the Democratic Party, then you should have nothing to worry about.

Most do. And polling shows that women are more and more increasingly leaning liberal and pro-Democrat than their predecessors did. Seems to me this thread is about understanding the phenomenon and rationale of women who don't.

Lately in this thread it just seems to be "you liberals made me conservative" as though you have no control over your own choices and decisions while at the same time bristling over the notion that growing up in a household filled with conservative ideology can't possibly have any impact on someone's choices (a complete contradiction) - and how the suggestion of being influenced by your household and parents somehow misogynistic. And that's frankly dead wrong. I myself grew up in a very conservative military household and for that reason I had very conservative beliefs and values. Later on in life I realized how many of those conservative beliefs I had basically been indoctrinated in by my parents were often regressive, were selfish, greedy and frankly sometimes sociopathic, not rooted in reality and so on. I've seen for myself how people get indoctrinated by conservative media, which also teaches them to avoid and distrust any other sources of information. It really is a type of brainwashing. And' I've seen that same evolution I had from young adult conservatism to more liberal viewpoints repeated with many of my friends and relatives as well. None of that has anything whatsoever to do with misogyny.

I'll add, to clarify that I don't believe there are many, or any dads who are knowingly and intentionally out there rubbing their hands together saying "I need to indoctrinate my baby girl into the world of conservatism" - in most cases they are doing it unknowingly and unconsciously or at most well-intentioned. And often it may be tradition, like I said I grew up in a military family where every generation of my family has served for a very long time along with some deep seated old-school conservatism. For them it's the status quo, it's what they grew up with as well. They don't know any better. I think a lot has changed with the advent of more recent generations, the explosion of media sources and so on, which, for the open minded, gives a whole range of ideas. But at the same time, there definitely also are media outlets out there which are indeed intentionally misleading and disinforming and propagandizing, along with pushing cultish things like telling people to turn off anything but conservative media sources.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

Love how you’ve decided that women need to subvert all their issues. As usual, men are more important to you. Grotesque.

DP... I don't understand this response at all. How is the PP saying men are more important? I didn't see anything to warrant that in the comment you are responding to. The PP was merely asking how issues should be prioritized.

Should every other issue of concern to women be completely subverted and be subordinate in order to deal with trans people in prisons? Another woman's interest in womens health, maternal health, access to affordable childcare, equal wages for women, access to contraception and reproductive health, paid family leave, support for women-owned businesses, anti-discrimination laws against women, addressing domestic violence, human sex trafficking, improved political representation by women, and all of these other issues need to shut up, sit down and take a back seat because you demand the issue of transwomen in women's prisons be the top priority?

All of those other women's issues being deprioritized is exactly what would happen if large numbers of women agreed with the PP and made their sole focus to be outrage over trans women in women's prisons and as a result, voted a straight R ticket. Thankfully most women don't agree with the PP. While sure, they don't want to see other women being abused in prison, they have the sense to not throw away everything else that has been so hard fought over their lifetimes for that one issue by voting R.

Then why are you worried? If you are so sure that most women in the US feel embraced, valued, and supported by Democrats, and that the Democrats don’t treat women like second-class citizens, then you have nothing to worry about. 👍

If you want representation that will try to restore the rights women has for almost 50 years, that is the Democratic party. The GOP destroyed those rights.

Okay. If, as you claimed, most women voters feel that way about the Democratic Party, then you should have nothing to worry about.

Most do. And polling shows that women are more and more increasingly leaning liberal and pro-Democrat than their predecessors did. Seems to me this thread is about understanding the phenomenon and rationale of women who don't.

Lately in this thread it just seems to be "you liberals made me conservative" as though you have no control over your own choices and decisions while at the same time bristling over the notion that growing up in a household filled with conservative ideology can't possibly have any impact on someone's choices (a complete contradiction) - and how the suggestion of being influenced by your household and parents somehow misogynistic. And that's frankly dead wrong. I myself grew up in a very conservative military household and for that reason I had very conservative beliefs and values. Later on in life I realized how many of those conservative beliefs I had basically been indoctrinated in by my parents were often regressive, were selfish, greedy and frankly sometimes sociopathic, not rooted in reality and so on. I've seen for myself how people get indoctrinated by conservative media, which also teaches them to avoid and distrust any other sources of information. It really is a type of brainwashing. And' I've seen that same evolution I had from young adult conservatism to more liberal viewpoints repeated with many of my friends and relatives as well. None of that has anything whatsoever to do with misogyny.

Raised up the same way in a left/ dem/progressive/military household. Then I grew up.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans - a belief in private property rights and seeing just how much .gov screws up first hand.

Since when is the Democratic party against private property? I think you've confused them with communists.
Also, I doubt most Republicans actually even have as solid of an understanding of government as they think. Particularly when they send idiots like MTG to Congress when she still doesn't even know how Congress works even after having served for several years.