Help me understand Republican women in their 30s and 40s

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans - a belief in private property rights and seeing just how much .gov screws up first hand.

And yet, making laws left and right to control ppl more.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans - a belief in private property rights and seeing just how much .gov screws up first hand.

And yet, making laws left and right to control ppl more.

Learn some history. Democrat sponsored laws and regulations haven't come form "a desire to control people" apart from curbing harm to society.

Tell me how the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act "controls people" other than to curb racism?

The law that created OSHA addressed genuine workplace safety issues. Are you not aware of things like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire where dozens of women died because the door was locked?

The Clean Water Act genuinely improved water quality. Prior to that we had things like the Cuyahoga River being so polluted that it would routinely catch on fire.

Social Security provided a much needed social safety net for senior citizens and the disabled.

And so on. And likewise, government regulations aren't dreamt up by agencies out of the blue. They usually come as a result of decades and decades of recurring problem, like kids being injured by unsafe products and so on.

Love Canal. Lung cancer from cigarettes. Children's' IQ damaged due to lead paint and leaded gas. Some of us remember those lessons and value the fact that Democrats stepped up to address them, as opposed to Republicans who time and time again threw workers and children under the bus in favor of getting their cut from their corporate donors.

It's always astounding how Republicans ignore history, pretend it's all unnecessary, unwarranted "nanny state" garbage that is solely to "control people."

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Anonymous wrote:So Republican women are totally OK with being treated as nothing more than baby factories, as long as dirty brown people don't come across the border to take jobs no American wants.

Got it.

I am a dirty brown person, I don't mind to be treated like baby factory. I have 5 kids and I love them all. You are an idiot.

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Dirty is not a bad word. It means someone who works with their hands. It should be commended.

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Anonymous wrote:So Republican women are totally OK with being treated as nothing more than baby factories, as long as dirty brown people don't come across the border to take jobs no American wants.

Got it.

Posts like this make ME want to become a Republican.

—lifelong Dem

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me that Republican *policy* isn't geared towards denying women (and only women) reproductive freedom. And it's not just abortion - they're going after contraception as well. And the cherry on top is that they are proposing PUNISHMENT for having an abortion.

And spare me the lecture about immigration being a national security issue - if it was truly that, the GOP I used to know would have shut that shit off years ago. But Republicans don't want to solve the issue; it's too valuable to them as a wedge issue for political advantage. It's all dog whistles, and barely disguised ones at that.

The way I see it, any woman of reproductive age who still votes Republican is just like a Log Cabin Republican - willing to trade their entire identity for absolutely nothing.

How ‘bout I tell you instead that the holier-than-thou righteousness of the left is extraordinarily unappealing, even to people who pretty much agree with you?

Yuck

Are we not all stuck with these abortion bans because of holier than thou righteousness? Talk about unappealing.

NP- I'm an independent and I don't understand how people are still affiliated considering the disgusting rhetoric and lack of respect of both parties. It's not productive, and really only helps the vilest politicians on both sides to gain traction, and the press/media/social media when people gobble up divisive crap. I'm a reluctant Biden voter, but so tired of people not focusing on what they can agree on to just hurl insults at each other. The reality is most women, including republican women, are pro choice or hold some nuanced view of abortion, opposing bans. None of them will be convinced to vote Biden through ad-hominem attacks.

I don't like ad hominem attacks either, but if the ability to make your own health care decisions is something someone values at all, then how does that person vote in favor of a person and a party that are actively working to take that away? I do not get that.

To be blunt? Some of us don’t sleep around so a need for an abortion is not the driving force in our lives.

Really doubt that this post is made by a woman that has carried pregnancies and birthed babies. Poster after poster is pointing out all the things that go sideways with human reproduction. You just sound ignorant, inexperienced, and aggressively judgy about issues that have zero to do with sleeping around.

How many babies have you birthed? Any miscarriages? Fertility issues? Rapes? Fetal abnormalities?

2 kids
Multiple miscarriages at various stages
Minor age-related fertility isssues
No rapes
No fetal abnormalities

I am republican woman, 2 kids, 2 miscarriages, no major fertility issues, no rapes, no fetal abnormalities. I see more liberal woman with fetal abnormality and wondering if god telling them something.

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Anonymous wrote:Dirty is not a bad word. It means someone who works with their hands. It should be commended.

Thank you. I am also deplorable.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

Love how you’ve decided that women need to subvert all their issues. As usual, men are more important to you. Grotesque.

DP... I don't understand this response at all. How is the PP saying men are more important? I didn't see anything to warrant that in the comment you are responding to. The PP was merely asking how issues should be prioritized.

Should every other issue of concern to women be completely subverted and be subordinate in order to deal with trans people in prisons? Another woman's interest in womens health, maternal health, access to affordable childcare, equal wages for women, access to contraception and reproductive health, paid family leave, support for women-owned businesses, anti-discrimination laws against women, addressing domestic violence, human sex trafficking, improved political representation by women, and all of these other issues need to shut up, sit down and take a back seat because you demand the issue of transwomen in women's prisons be the top priority?

All of those other women's issues being deprioritized is exactly what would happen if large numbers of women agreed with the PP and made their sole focus to be outrage over trans women in women's prisons and as a result, voted a straight R ticket. Thankfully most women don't agree with the PP. While sure, they don't want to see other women being abused in prison, they have the sense to not throw away everything else that has been so hard fought over their lifetimes for that one issue by voting R.

Then why are you worried? If you are so sure that most women in the US feel embraced, valued, and supported by Democrats, and that the Democrats don’t treat women like second-class citizens, then you have nothing to worry about. 👍

If you want representation that will try to restore the rights women has for almost 50 years, that is the Democratic party. The GOP destroyed those rights.

Okay. If, as you claimed, most women voters feel that way about the Democratic Party, then you should have nothing to worry about.

Most do. And polling shows that women are more and more increasingly leaning liberal and pro-Democrat than their predecessors did. Seems to me this thread is about understanding the phenomenon and rationale of women who don't.

Lately in this thread it just seems to be "you liberals made me conservative" as though you have no control over your own choices and decisions while at the same time bristling over the notion that growing up in a household filled with conservative ideology can't possibly have any impact on someone's choices (a complete contradiction) - and how the suggestion of being influenced by your household and parents somehow misogynistic. And that's frankly dead wrong. I myself grew up in a very conservative military household and for that reason I had very conservative beliefs and values. Later on in life I realized how many of those conservative beliefs I had basically been indoctrinated in by my parents were often regressive, were selfish, greedy and frankly sometimes sociopathic, not rooted in reality and so on. I've seen for myself how people get indoctrinated by conservative media, which also teaches them to avoid and distrust any other sources of information. It really is a type of brainwashing. And' I've seen that same evolution I had from young adult conservatism to more liberal viewpoints repeated with many of my friends and relatives as well. None of that has anything whatsoever to do with misogyny.

The poster you are referencing in the bolded claimed that a female PP who disagreed with her was brainwashed by her father. Not her parents. Her father. And yes, that is shockingly sexist. The fact you refuse to see and acknowledge that is consistent with the general sexism rampant in the progressive left these days.

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Anonymous wrote:So Republican women are totally OK with being treated as nothing more than baby factories, as long as dirty brown people don't come across the border to take jobs no American wants.

Got it.

Posts like this make ME want to become a Republican.

—lifelong Dem

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me that Republican *policy* isn't geared towards denying women (and only women) reproductive freedom. And it's not just abortion - they're going after contraception as well. And the cherry on top is that they are proposing PUNISHMENT for having an abortion.

And spare me the lecture about immigration being a national security issue - if it was truly that, the GOP I used to know would have shut that shit off years ago. But Republicans don't want to solve the issue; it's too valuable to them as a wedge issue for political advantage. It's all dog whistles, and barely disguised ones at that.

The way I see it, any woman of reproductive age who still votes Republican is just like a Log Cabin Republican - willing to trade their entire identity for absolutely nothing.

How ‘bout I tell you instead that the holier-than-thou righteousness of the left is extraordinarily unappealing, even to people who pretty much agree with you?

Yuck

Are we not all stuck with these abortion bans because of holier than thou righteousness? Talk about unappealing.

NP- I'm an independent and I don't understand how people are still affiliated considering the disgusting rhetoric and lack of respect of both parties. It's not productive, and really only helps the vilest politicians on both sides to gain traction, and the press/media/social media when people gobble up divisive crap. I'm a reluctant Biden voter, but so tired of people not focusing on what they can agree on to just hurl insults at each other. The reality is most women, including republican women, are pro choice or hold some nuanced view of abortion, opposing bans. None of them will be convinced to vote Biden through ad-hominem attacks.

I don't like ad hominem attacks either, but if the ability to make your own health care decisions is something someone values at all, then how does that person vote in favor of a person and a party that are actively working to take that away? I do not get that.

To be blunt? Some of us don’t sleep around so a need for an abortion is not the driving force in our lives.

Really doubt that this post is made by a woman that has carried pregnancies and birthed babies. Poster after poster is pointing out all the things that go sideways with human reproduction. You just sound ignorant, inexperienced, and aggressively judgy about issues that have zero to do with sleeping around.

How many babies have you birthed? Any miscarriages? Fertility issues? Rapes? Fetal abnormalities?

2 kids
Multiple miscarriages at various stages
Minor age-related fertility isssues
No rapes
No fetal abnormalities

I am republican woman, 2 kids, 2 miscarriages, no major fertility issues, no rapes, no fetal abnormalities. I see more liberal woman with fetal abnormality and wondering if god telling them something.

What kind of person believes in a deity that causes misfortune to people who disagree with them politically?

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans - a belief in private property rights and seeing just how much .gov screws up first hand.

And yet, making laws left and right to control ppl more.

Learn some history. Democrat sponsored laws and regulations haven't come form "a desire to control people" apart from curbing harm to society.

Tell me how the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act "controls people" other than to curb racism?

The law that created OSHA addressed genuine workplace safety issues. Are you not aware of things like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire where dozens of women died because the door was locked?

The Clean Water Act genuinely improved water quality. Prior to that we had things like the Cuyahoga River being so polluted that it would routinely catch on fire.

Social Security provided a much needed social safety net for senior citizens and the disabled.

And so on. And likewise, government regulations aren't dreamt up by agencies out of the blue. They usually come as a result of decades and decades of recurring problem, like kids being injured by unsafe products and so on.

Love Canal. Lung cancer from cigarettes. Children's' IQ damaged due to lead paint and leaded gas. Some of us remember those lessons and value the fact that Democrats stepped up to address them, as opposed to Republicans who time and time again threw workers and children under the bus in favor of getting their cut from their corporate donors.

It's always astounding how Republicans ignore history, pretend it's all unnecessary, unwarranted "nanny state" garbage that is solely to "control people."

The Democrats also have a long history of promoting and passing eugenics laws, if you are listing out their active social engineering legal activity! Surely you meant to include that!

(Republicans did too, before you come at me. I just despise this sort of rose-colored glasses rewriting of Democratic Party history.)

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are forcing poor women to have babies they can’t feed, cloth, raise. Why?
I’m an educator. Do you know how hard it is to educate an unwanted child?
But, that’s what repubs want right? More factory workers. Servants.

Wrong. We bring all servants and factory workers through the southern border. How do you educate their children, especially those who born to single teen Salvadorian mothers? Tell us about your pedagogical methods of educating those kids please.

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Anonymous wrote:So Republican women are totally OK with being treated as nothing more than baby factories, as long as dirty brown people don't come across the border to take jobs no American wants.

Got it.

I am a dirty brown person, I don't mind to be treated like baby factory. I have 5 kids and I love them all. You are an idiot.

It was helpful of the Democratic PP above to so clearly demonstrate how Democrats see you.

Congratulations on having a beautiful family.

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Anonymous wrote:Republican women in the age range you mentioned are by and large intelligent, articulate, understand the role of government and are carrying concealed weapons to ward off criminals and rapists.

They have conservative views, are willing to compromise on abortion, with laws similar to what exists in Europe. They want a secure border and support giving people a hand up without providing perpetual handouts.

In other words typical normal people that lean a little right of center who are never going to support the extreme views of the progressive wing no matter how loudly they shout.

You must be a smug idiot to think women can just ward off rapists.

Aren’t you one of the people that think it’s fine for imprisoned women to be cell mates with convicted rapists and male sex offenders? Don’t you believe the imprisoned women can just ward off the rapists who now identify as women and share their cells? Why would this be any different? At least the PP has a gun.

Time to stop drinking and get out of mommy's basement.

So yes, you believe women prisoners should be imprisoned with convicted male rapists who now identify as women. Got it.

Moron. No one wrote that.

Yep. Seems like some angry right winger is hard at work strawmanning and sock puppeting tonight.

We are still waiting for the PP who resorted to name-calling (“Moron.”) to come out and state that he fully opposes housing biological female prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, and that he is opposed to the political party that is supporting that policy.

Why should someone have to speak to something they never said in the first place? That was your strawman, not theirs.

So, do you support housing biological women prisoners with transwomen convicted of rape or sexual assault, which is currently supported by the Democratic Party? Yes or no? It’s a straightforward question.

You don't want a sleazy pervert who commits sexual assault in prison with women but you DO want him to run the country? Yes or no? It's a straightforward question.

I’m not voting for Trump. I don’t want transwomen convicted of sexual assault and rape housed with biological women and I don’t want Trump as my president.

Yet you support a party that fully backs and endorses sleazy sex-abuser Trump, which refuses to question anything Trump says or does, which installed Trump's daughter-in-law as RNC chair...

I literally said I am not voting for Trump. I’m not a Republican. I just understand why women in their 30s/40s might be Republican. Hint: it’s people like you.

Oh come on. If people vote on either side because of discourse from random internet strangers, that’s ludicrous. On this thread, we’ve asked for statistics and exact reasons why feminists should vote Republican. The reasons have been because they believe in a fetus’s rights > its mother’s rights, and abortion division is a given. Then we heard that imprisoned women have to room with trans women. But, we haven’t seen any data about how widespread this is. They haven’t been able to articulate why this issue is the most important feminist issue over say improving maternal health including mental health, fighting for equal wages and equalizing wages for Black women, more money for medical testing on women, better access and affordability for childcare, and on.

Love how you’ve decided that women need to subvert all their issues. As usual, men are more important to you. Grotesque.

DP... I don't understand this response at all. How is the PP saying men are more important? I didn't see anything to warrant that in the comment you are responding to. The PP was merely asking how issues should be prioritized.

Should every other issue of concern to women be completely subverted and be subordinate in order to deal with trans people in prisons? Another woman's interest in womens health, maternal health, access to affordable childcare, equal wages for women, access to contraception and reproductive health, paid family leave, support for women-owned businesses, anti-discrimination laws against women, addressing domestic violence, human sex trafficking, improved political representation by women, and all of these other issues need to shut up, sit down and take a back seat because you demand the issue of transwomen in women's prisons be the top priority?

All of those other women's issues being deprioritized is exactly what would happen if large numbers of women agreed with the PP and made their sole focus to be outrage over trans women in women's prisons and as a result, voted a straight R ticket. Thankfully most women don't agree with the PP. While sure, they don't want to see other women being abused in prison, they have the sense to not throw away everything else that has been so hard fought over their lifetimes for that one issue by voting R.

Then why are you worried? If you are so sure that most women in the US feel embraced, valued, and supported by Democrats, and that the Democrats don’t treat women like second-class citizens, then you have nothing to worry about. 👍

If you want representation that will try to restore the rights women has for almost 50 years, that is the Democratic party. The GOP destroyed those rights.

Okay. If, as you claimed, most women voters feel that way about the Democratic Party, then you should have nothing to worry about.

Most do. And polling shows that women are more and more increasingly leaning liberal and pro-Democrat than their predecessors did. Seems to me this thread is about understanding the phenomenon and rationale of women who don't.

Lately in this thread it just seems to be "you liberals made me conservative" as though you have no control over your own choices and decisions while at the same time bristling over the notion that growing up in a household filled with conservative ideology can't possibly have any impact on someone's choices (a complete contradiction) - and how the suggestion of being influenced by your household and parents somehow misogynistic. And that's frankly dead wrong. I myself grew up in a very conservative military household and for that reason I had very conservative beliefs and values. Later on in life I realized how many of those conservative beliefs I had basically been indoctrinated in by my parents were often regressive, were selfish, greedy and frankly sometimes sociopathic, not rooted in reality and so on. I've seen for myself how people get indoctrinated by conservative media, which also teaches them to avoid and distrust any other sources of information. It really is a type of brainwashing. And' I've seen that same evolution I had from young adult conservatism to more liberal viewpoints repeated with many of my friends and relatives as well. None of that has anything whatsoever to do with misogyny.

The poster you are referencing in the bolded claimed that a female PP who disagreed with her was brainwashed by her father. Not her parents. Her father. And yes, that is shockingly sexist. The fact you refuse to see and acknowledge that is consistent with the general sexism rampant in the progressive left these days.

Let's just start calling you Stretch Armstrong from now on, because that is QUIIIITE THE STRETCH. Your feigned indignance act is really getting old.

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Anonymous wrote:So Republican women are totally OK with being treated as nothing more than baby factories, as long as dirty brown people don't come across the border to take jobs no American wants.

Got it.

Posts like this make ME want to become a Republican.

—lifelong Dem

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me that Republican *policy* isn't geared towards denying women (and only women) reproductive freedom. And it's not just abortion - they're going after contraception as well. And the cherry on top is that they are proposing PUNISHMENT for having an abortion.

And spare me the lecture about immigration being a national security issue - if it was truly that, the GOP I used to know would have shut that shit off years ago. But Republicans don't want to solve the issue; it's too valuable to them as a wedge issue for political advantage. It's all dog whistles, and barely disguised ones at that.

The way I see it, any woman of reproductive age who still votes Republican is just like a Log Cabin Republican - willing to trade their entire identity for absolutely nothing.

How ‘bout I tell you instead that the holier-than-thou righteousness of the left is extraordinarily unappealing, even to people who pretty much agree with you?

Yuck

Are we not all stuck with these abortion bans because of holier than thou righteousness? Talk about unappealing.

NP- I'm an independent and I don't understand how people are still affiliated considering the disgusting rhetoric and lack of respect of both parties. It's not productive, and really only helps the vilest politicians on both sides to gain traction, and the press/media/social media when people gobble up divisive crap. I'm a reluctant Biden voter, but so tired of people not focusing on what they can agree on to just hurl insults at each other. The reality is most women, including republican women, are pro choice or hold some nuanced view of abortion, opposing bans. None of them will be convinced to vote Biden through ad-hominem attacks.

I don't like ad hominem attacks either, but if the ability to make your own health care decisions is something someone values at all, then how does that person vote in favor of a person and a party that are actively working to take that away? I do not get that.

To be blunt? Some of us don’t sleep around so a need for an abortion is not the driving force in our lives.

Really doubt that this post is made by a woman that has carried pregnancies and birthed babies. Poster after poster is pointing out all the things that go sideways with human reproduction. You just sound ignorant, inexperienced, and aggressively judgy about issues that have zero to do with sleeping around.

How many babies have you birthed? Any miscarriages? Fertility issues? Rapes? Fetal abnormalities?

2 kids
Multiple miscarriages at various stages
Minor age-related fertility isssues
No rapes
No fetal abnormalities

I am republican woman, 2 kids, 2 miscarriages, no major fertility issues, no rapes, no fetal abnormalities. I see more liberal woman with fetal abnormality and wondering if god telling them something.

What kind of person believes in a deity that causes misfortune to people who disagree with them politically?

God does not causes misfortune. He tells people not to kill, and if you proceed and kill the baby, then misfortune will falls on you. The God's words apply equally to all political spectrums, look at Biden's children.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans - a belief in private property rights and seeing just how much .gov screws up first hand.

And yet, making laws left and right to control ppl more.

Learn some history. Democrat sponsored laws and regulations haven't come form "a desire to control people" apart from curbing harm to society.

Tell me how the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act "controls people" other than to curb racism?

The law that created OSHA addressed genuine workplace safety issues. Are you not aware of things like the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire where dozens of women died because the door was locked?

The Clean Water Act genuinely improved water quality. Prior to that we had things like the Cuyahoga River being so polluted that it would routinely catch on fire.

Social Security provided a much needed social safety net for senior citizens and the disabled.

And so on. And likewise, government regulations aren't dreamt up by agencies out of the blue. They usually come as a result of decades and decades of recurring problem, like kids being injured by unsafe products and so on.

Love Canal. Lung cancer from cigarettes. Children's' IQ damaged due to lead paint and leaded gas. Some of us remember those lessons and value the fact that Democrats stepped up to address them, as opposed to Republicans who time and time again threw workers and children under the bus in favor of getting their cut from their corporate donors.

It's always astounding how Republicans ignore history, pretend it's all unnecessary, unwarranted "nanny state" garbage that is solely to "control people."

The Democrats also have a long history of promoting and passing eugenics laws, if you are listing out their active social engineering legal activity! Surely you meant to include that!

(Republicans did too, before you come at me. I just despise this sort of rose-colored glasses rewriting of Democratic Party history.)

Eugenics laws?

*removes glasses, wipes them, and checks to see if today is 1924, or 2024*

Keep on stretching there, Stretch Armstrong.

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Anonymous wrote:So Republican women are totally OK with being treated as nothing more than baby factories, as long as dirty brown people don't come across the border to take jobs no American wants.

Got it.

Posts like this make ME want to become a Republican.

—lifelong Dem

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me that Republican *policy* isn't geared towards denying women (and only women) reproductive freedom. And it's not just abortion - they're going after contraception as well. And the cherry on top is that they are proposing PUNISHMENT for having an abortion.

And spare me the lecture about immigration being a national security issue - if it was truly that, the GOP I used to know would have shut that shit off years ago. But Republicans don't want to solve the issue; it's too valuable to them as a wedge issue for political advantage. It's all dog whistles, and barely disguised ones at that.

The way I see it, any woman of reproductive age who still votes Republican is just like a Log Cabin Republican - willing to trade their entire identity for absolutely nothing.

How ‘bout I tell you instead that the holier-than-thou righteousness of the left is extraordinarily unappealing, even to people who pretty much agree with you?

Yuck

Are we not all stuck with these abortion bans because of holier than thou righteousness? Talk about unappealing.

NP- I'm an independent and I don't understand how people are still affiliated considering the disgusting rhetoric and lack of respect of both parties. It's not productive, and really only helps the vilest politicians on both sides to gain traction, and the press/media/social media when people gobble up divisive crap. I'm a reluctant Biden voter, but so tired of people not focusing on what they can agree on to just hurl insults at each other. The reality is most women, including republican women, are pro choice or hold some nuanced view of abortion, opposing bans. None of them will be convinced to vote Biden through ad-hominem attacks.

I don't like ad hominem attacks either, but if the ability to make your own health care decisions is something someone values at all, then how does that person vote in favor of a person and a party that are actively working to take that away? I do not get that.

To be blunt? Some of us don’t sleep around so a need for an abortion is not the driving force in our lives.

Really doubt that this post is made by a woman that has carried pregnancies and birthed babies. Poster after poster is pointing out all the things that go sideways with human reproduction. You just sound ignorant, inexperienced, and aggressively judgy about issues that have zero to do with sleeping around.

How many babies have you birthed? Any miscarriages? Fertility issues? Rapes? Fetal abnormalities?

2 kids
Multiple miscarriages at various stages
Minor age-related fertility isssues
No rapes
No fetal abnormalities

I am republican woman, 2 kids, 2 miscarriages, no major fertility issues, no rapes, no fetal abnormalities. I see more liberal woman with fetal abnormality and wondering if god telling them something.

What kind of person believes in a deity that causes misfortune to people who disagree with them politically?

God does not causes misfortune. He tells people not to kill, and if you proceed and kill the baby, then misfortune will falls on you. The God's words apply equally to all political spectrums, look at Biden's children.

You've put the cart before the horse. If God's involved then it was God who gave that mom a baby with a serious (and likely unsurvivable) abnormality or miscarriage BEFORE the mom even made any kind of decision regarding the baby's life. Totally backwards.