Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?

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Anonymous wrote:I live in a sanctuary city. No, you cannot enroll a child totally without papers. Liar liar.

DP

What? In MCPS you actually can.

Public schools are required to enroll anyone who shows up. We deal with this yearly at my kids’ school.

Sounds like bullshit. They need paperwork.

They do not have to be here legally. If they are here, they go to school. It is the law.

And, FWIW, they bring their papers.

If only it was so easy for real Americans born here.

What barriers to public school are there for natural-born citizens?

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No one knows for sure how many foreign nationals we have here.

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Obama DHS Secretary says we have a border crisis.

Why is the Democrat Congress doing nothing?

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Obama DHS Secretary says we have a border crisis.

Why is the Democrat Congress doing nothing?

Oh, have the Democrats taken the Senate? How did that happen?

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Obama DHS Secretary says we have a border crisis.

Why is the Democrat Congress doing nothing?

Oh, have the Democrats taken the Senate? How did that happen?

Check your comprehension.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in a sanctuary city. No, you cannot enroll a child totally without papers. Liar liar.

DP

What? In MCPS you actually can.

Public schools are required to enroll anyone who shows up. We deal with this yearly at my kids’ school.

Sounds like bullshit. They need paperwork.

They do not have to be here legally. If they are here, they go to school. It is the law.

And, FWIW, they bring their papers.

In FCPS, you can check membership growth through the year. At the schools with heavy Hispanic population, the growth since September is impressive. I checked one school today that had a growth since September of 27 kids. That is the equivalent of more than 1 classroom in a Title I school. One school. This is in Fairfax County--not El Paso.

Yes, this is a crisis. It is unsustainable.

Why are you ASSUMING that all of the Hispanic kids, new or not, are here illegally? I'd bet that the vast majority of them are citizens, even if their parents are not.

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Obama DHS Secretary says we have a border crisis.

Why is the Democrat Congress doing nothing?

Oh, have the Democrats taken the Senate? How did that happen?

Check your comprehension.

Congress includes both the House and the Senate.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw this story about the Peruvian nanny murdered by an illegal immigrant in Jersey City.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7ny.com/amp/man-arrested-in-murder-of-nanny-found-in-new-jersey-lake/5227309/

How is this not problematic?

Exactly.

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Why are you ASSUMING that all of the Hispanic kids, new or not, are here illegally? I'd bet that the vast majority of them are citizens, even if their parents are not.

Yes, all the new kids are citizens. Absolutely.

Ever talk to an ESOL teacher? Especially those in high school? Do you know how many kids are coming and are allowed to stay in high school until they turn 22?

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw this story about the Peruvian nanny murdered by an illegal immigrant in Jersey City.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7ny.com/amp/man-arrested-in-murder-of-nanny-found-in-new-jersey-lake/5227309/

How is this not problematic?

Exactly.

Exacto.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Obama DHS Secretary says we have a border crisis.

Why is the Democrat Congress doing nothing?

Oh, have the Democrats taken the Senate? How did that happen?

Check your comprehension.

Congress includes both the House and the Senate.

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PP doesn't seem to know what they're talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:I realize that migrants can legally claim asylum the minute they touch U.S. soil. Which begs the question, why isn't there something - a BARRIER, perhaps?? - to prevent them from touching U.S. soil in the first place? They should have to wait on the Mexico side, not the U.S. side, where they're simply released into our country after a cursory interview. Absurd.

Because it's virtually impossible to build said barrier directly ON the border. They cross into US territory before they even reach the barrier. Sorry but that is how it works.

Then perhaps Mexico could step up and build a barrier on THEIR side of the border so that no one touches U.S. soil unless we have room for them.

Why would they? They don’t need these crowds. Unless the US gives them money like EU paid Turkey to keep the Syrian refugees out of Europe.
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Right, because the US hasn't given Mexico, in addition to C. American countries - billions of dollars ALREADY.

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Anonymous wrote:I realize that migrants can legally claim asylum the minute they touch U.S. soil. Which begs the question, why isn't there something - a BARRIER, perhaps?? - to prevent them from touching U.S. soil in the first place? They should have to wait on the Mexico side, not the U.S. side, where they're simply released into our country after a cursory interview. Absurd.

Take a look at a map and you will understand the issue. There is already fencing and barrier where it is mostly practical and feasible. If you are not familiar with it and simply think "building a wall" is the solution, then you have been duped.

I am quite familiar with the geography of the area, thanks. I realize there are already barriers in some areas. My point is that Mexico needs to step up and place barriers along areas which we aren't able to (on their side) to prevent migrants from reaching our soil in the first place. IOW, barriers need to be built and maintained *before* migrants get near the Rio Grande in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:DP- my neighborhood school is 65% low income and ESOL, mostly Hispanic. They can’t all be the children of corporate employees or have been here for x generations.
It does look like an invasion, neighborhood families (the ones who have been here for many years in fact) rarely send their kids to this school.

How exactly does it "look like an invasion"?

Middle class families don’t find the teaching rigorous enough. Tons of time spent on discipline and remedial instruction. Very few afterschool activities because nobody wants to organize them and/or pay for them.
Basically, this school now “belongs” to low income ESOL students. They are the focus.

OMGERD!! PEOPLE SEND THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL!!! PANIC!!!

Their kids need free lunches, therapy, remedial instruction, ESOL services, free aftercare, free enrichment.
Guess what, kids who come from generational poverty and are US citizens, and descendants of slaves, need it all, too!
And guess what, middle class kids of citizens and LEGAL immigrants need enrichment (which they cannot get because the school leadership refuses to invite vendors unless they accommodate free lunch kids).

Middle class kids need quality instruction, and more than a handful of parents volunteering for more than a handful of events.

They also need teachers who are not stretched thin.

This is why people move to the outer burbs - or other counties farther out. And yes, teachers are stretched thin and are no good to themselves or others at that point. I saw the changes in the classroom, and I saw the impact on my own children's education. If you ignore these issues, they only grow, and that's what the impacted counties are doing - ignoring the issues at the expense of the kids (native born and children of naturalized citizens) who want to learn.

It sounds so ugly, but it's the truth. And for those of you who have no experience in the school system or with social programs, I'd LOVE to hear your solutions. I really would . . . as I'd love a good laugh.

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And the outer burbs are now full of illegal immigrants as well.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a crisis and it has been building for some time now.

Democrats are denying it because should they admit this to be true, public opinion may sway in Trump's direction toward building a border barrier. They cannot have this.

The only crisis is the one Trump created by separating families and creating conditions of mass rape of girls and young women by men of all stripes.

Trump created? You are too dumb to know that you are a dumb.

What did Barack and other Presidents did for years ? Catched and released Or kept in jail as whole family?

Anyone?

“What changed was the administration’s handling of these cases. Undocumented immigrant families seeking asylum previously were released and went into the civil court system, but now the parents are being detained and sent to criminal courts while their kids are resettled in the United States as though they were unaccompanied minors.”

“Katie Waldman, a spokeswoman for Nielsen, said the administration does not have a family-separation policy. But Waldman agreed that Trump officials are exercising their prosecutorial discretion to charge more illegal-entry offenses, which in turn causes more family separations. The Obama administration also separated immigrant families, she said.”

““During the Obama administration there was no policy in place that resulted in the systematic separation of families at the border, like we are now seeing under the Trump administration,” said Sarah Pierce, a policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute. “Our understanding is that generally parents were not prosecuted for illegal entry under President Obama. There may have been some separation if there was suspicion that the children were being trafficked or a claimed parent-child relationship did not actually exist. But nothing like the levels we are seeing today.””

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/06/19/the-facts-about-trumps-policy-of-separating-families-at-the-border/

There is a simple way for these parents to stop separations: do not enter the U.S. illegally.

Bingo! This is not a difficult concept.

Apparently it is, for you. They are separating people who are coming here legally to seek asylum.

If they are truly seeking asylum, all who are not Mexican citizens can do that in Mexico. Hmmm... wonder why they don't do that.

Many do. Some have family or other connections to the US which provides a potential support network. If your family was in distress and your option was Norway where you didn't know anyone, or Sweden where you had some 5th cousins, where would you go?

If my family was truly in distress such that I needed to seek asylum, I would take the option that gives me immediate relief, regardless of my potential support network. I would not risk my kids' lives, my daughter or me getting raped or dying in the desert, and all the dangers entailed in going through Mexico. Period.

+1,000,000
But you're far too sensible and rational for this crowd.