Bafta awards controversy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone deserves an apology, it’s John, for not receiving the sympathy and empathy he deserves.

+1. The man is there to celebrate a movie that brings attention to the condition he suffers from, which is an inability to control what he’s saying. And now he’s expected to apologize?! How about everyone apologize to him for not understanding his condition??

It does seem odd that he was invited there to celebrate the movie about his life and nobody bothered to watch it or have even a basic understanding of what his disability was. It's like being caught not doing your homework.

Who is”nobody”? Are you suggesting that everyone in the audience should have been forced to watch his movie prior to the awards event? Perhaps if everyone had — and had also watched Sinners, this incident would have been handled better all the way around.

Sinners was such a dumb film, I cannot understand why it’s receiving so much praise. Either be a serious historical drama or be a vampire flick. The second half of that movie was dumb.

[Anonymous]

So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

Watch the movie.

[Anonymous]

I feel bad for the guy with the condition, but I can't image being subjected to being called the N word as I accept such a prestigious award. That's not right.

They should have provided him accommodations that would also not subject award winners to racist epitaphs (especially as they were not made aware prior to the ceremony this might happen).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the guy with the condition, but I can't image being subjected to being called the N word as I accept such a prestigious award. That's not right.

They should have provided him accommodations that would also not subject award winners to racist epitaphs (especially as they were not made aware prior to the ceremony this might happen).

They were award presenters, not winners.

[Anonymous]

Intrusive thoughts aren't specific to Tourette Syndrome. They also exist in other conditions - including OCD, some anxiety disorders, PTSD, psychosis etc.

Intrusive thoughts are unwanted, distressing, and involuntary thoughts, images, or urges.

How the brain manges these thoughts differs by disorder. In coprolalia they are a compulsive involuntary vocalization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

I have been wondering if Cumming would have had a less blasé response if Davidson had shouted the f-word or something similar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

I have been wondering if Cumming would have had a less blasé response if Davidson had shouted the f-word or something similar.

He did shout the f word - two or three times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Intrusive thoughts aren't specific to Tourette Syndrome. They also exist in other conditions - including OCD, some anxiety disorders, PTSD, psychosis etc.

Intrusive thoughts are unwanted, distressing, and involuntary thoughts, images, or urges.

How the brain manges these thoughts differs by disorder. In coprolalia they are a compulsive involuntary vocalization.

Imagine if this was your brother or family member. You can't go out in public with him because it would be dangerous. He's a loose cannon and at any moment might spout off to the wrong person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Intrusive thoughts aren't specific to Tourette Syndrome. They also exist in other conditions - including OCD, some anxiety disorders, PTSD, psychosis etc.

Intrusive thoughts are unwanted, distressing, and involuntary thoughts, images, or urges.

How the brain manges these thoughts differs by disorder. In coprolalia they are a compulsive involuntary vocalization.

Imagine if this was your brother or family member. You can't go out in public with him because it would be dangerous. He's a loose cannon and at any moment might spout off to the wrong person.

Yes, he has been hit and beat up a number of times when out in public. However he does have family and friends who understand him and are more than willing to be in public with him. He does try to educate when it happens and tell people its a medical condition and he can't control it - some get it and react with kindness and some don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone deserves an apology, it’s John, for not receiving the sympathy and empathy he deserves.

+1. The man is there to celebrate a movie that brings attention to the condition he suffers from, which is an inability to control what he’s saying. And now he’s expected to apologize?! How about everyone apologize to him for not understanding his condition??

It does seem odd that he was invited there to celebrate the movie about his life and nobody bothered to watch it or have even a basic understanding of what his disability was. It's like being caught not doing your homework.

Who is”nobody”? Are you suggesting that everyone in the audience should have been forced to watch his movie prior to the awards event? Perhaps if everyone had — and had also watched Sinners, this incident would have been handled better all the way around.

Sinners was such a dumb film, I cannot understand why it’s receiving so much praise. Either be a serious historical drama or be a vampire flick. The second half of that movie was dumb.

Okay, Siskel

[Anonymous]

This entitlement that one person with a disability trumps everyone else's right to the respectful enjoyment of an activity is ridiculous.

This is what is ruining schools and other public spaces. One kid gets to stay in class and cuss out the teacher, throw things, say vile things, and destroy a classroom because they have a disability. Who cares that it is constantly preventing 25 other kids from learning or they have to evacuate a classroom.

Who cares if working class people have to be on high alert all the time during a subway or bus ride because mentally ill aggressive people who are making threatening comments have a right to be on the bus too.

The guy with Tourette's is an entitled jerk. He absolutely did NOT apologize. He thinks just because it wasn't intentional that his words have no meaning so he really doesn't have to apologize.

The presenters and their families were deeply hurt. Audience members were taken aback. Why should someone who already was yelling profanities and interrupting a show get to stay?

Preshow
1. During housekeeping where the audience was told not to use profanity he yelled bullish*t
2. While the floor manager was explaining things he yelled out "Boring"
3. During BAFTA Chair's Speech: He yelled "shut the f* up**" while Sara Putt was speaking.
4. During the Best Children's and Family Film: He yelled "f* you**" as the directors of Boong accepted their award. Class act yelling profanities during the children and family film award.

After interrupting 4 times, he is a selfish person for not getting up to leave and watch in another room. So he stays and causes so much pain with his vile words to the Black presenters. But too bad for them because their feelings don't matter because of the special needs trump card.

[Anonymous]

“A racial slur was edited out of the Baftas ceremony before it was broadcast, but another one aired in error, the BBC's chief content officer has said.”

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This entitlement that one person with a disability trumps everyone else's right to the respectful enjoyment of an activity is ridiculous.

This is what is ruining schools and other public spaces. One kid gets to stay in class and cuss out the teacher, throw things, say vile things, and destroy a classroom because they have a disability. Who cares that it is constantly preventing 25 other kids from learning or they have to evacuate a classroom.

Who cares if working class people have to be on high alert all the time during a subway or bus ride because mentally ill aggressive people who are making threatening comments have a right to be on the bus too.

The guy with Tourette's is an entitled jerk. He absolutely did NOT apologize. He thinks just because it wasn't intentional that his words have no meaning so he really doesn't have to apologize.

The presenters and their families were deeply hurt. Audience members were taken aback. Why should someone who already was yelling profanities and interrupting a show get to stay?

Preshow
1. During housekeeping where the audience was told not to use profanity he yelled bullish*t
2. While the floor manager was explaining things he yelled out "Boring"
3. During BAFTA Chair's Speech: He yelled "shut the f* up**" while Sara Putt was speaking.
4. During the Best Children's and Family Film: He yelled "f* you**" as the directors of Boong accepted their award. Class act yelling profanities during the children and family film award.

After interrupting 4 times, he is a selfish person for not getting up to leave and watch in another room. So he stays and causes so much pain with his vile words to the Black presenters. But too bad for them because their feelings don't matter because of the special needs trump card.

I can’t tell if you are a troll or just low IQ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He also did leave after saying the n word and watched the rest in a separate room.

BAFTA should have handled and managed it differently in many ways.

He had a right to be there given his movie is literally about this exact condition and the issues it causes. For the people there, this was a one time thing, for him, it is an everyday thing. Perhaps introducing and speaking to his movie at the start of the BAFTAs would have been a way to introduce the audience and to give context.

What if someone suffers from uncontrollable flatulence? This can result from anal surgery (like hemorrhoids).

If they know they could fart very loudly at any moment, should they be going to a live award show? I personally would stay home. It’s sad, but I wouldn’t want to offend those around me. I wouldn’t want to appear rude and inconsiderate.