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I smell bs. A man with Tourette’s yells out the n word. Of all the words in existence that Tourette’s suffers can blurt. He says the n word, at BAFTAS. Puleeezz. And then to top it all off he never apologizes
Sounds like he meant it. Sounds like he’s using his “diagnosis” as an excuse to be an openly racist jerk. It’s like a South Park episode |
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It sounds like that's exactly what happens. The brain imagines the worst thing you can say in a moment and then you involuntarily say it. This is the same guy who said "F& the Queen" when he met her. My son had a mild form of Tourettes when he was young that he outgrew but it was a throat clearing grunt then later hard blinking of his eyes over and over. Thankfully it was nothing like this. |
Why do you feel bad for everyone. The guy with the tic doesn't seem to think it is a big enough deal to actually apologize. The article explaining how hurt the presenter and his family feel explains: ‘Michael’s community in Newark was part of the Great Migration, which literally happened because Black people were being terrorised in the South. Seeing Michael and Delroy being called that word up there really hurt their loved ones, and so everyone is trying their best to support each other. ‘He postponed some plans in London to spend time with his parents as he recovers.’ This was deeply traumatizing for the presenters and their families and people watching but the guy with Tourette's doesn't understand words can deeply hurt. It seems like he consciously or unconsciously enjoys the publicity. He realizes he gets more press maybe to promote his movie which I hope no one watches since he fails to understand words DO in fact carry meaning. [i]The day after the awards, Davidson issued an apology saying he was ‘deeply mortified if anyone considers my involuntary tics to be intentional or to carry any meaning.’[/i] |
Exactly. And I would never argue this man needs to be banned from public life. However, one could argue that this was a formal, televised event that he shouldn’t have been invited to. (I actually think he should have been invited and he should have declined since he alone knew the extent of what might happen at that event) |
Throat clearing is one thing. Thinking, then placing the tongue up to the roof of the mouth, pushing air through vocal cords, then moving the tongue to the back of the mouth, and to move the tongue mid mouth while contorting it, is another. It is more complex than a simple tick or urge. |
Yeah….. that’s not enough of a heads up. They needed to have been waaaaay more specific. Most people know about Tourette’s. Most people don’t know about this specific form of it. Which is why the movie is important and this man is brave to talk about it! But it’s not cool to tell an audience at a major awards ceremony they might “hear some involuntary noises” when what they mean is “you might hear someone involuntarily shouting obscenities at you as you give a speech”. |
While you may disagree that this is real, it is nonetheless a diagnosed disability. |
The shouting began right away. If they didn't know by then they had already heard a few outbursts before the racial slur. At that point Davidson did see himself out. |
I am a different poster and I agree with you that it’s totally involuntary, what he is saying, due to his Tourette’s. However , the audience was not given nearly enough of a warning (“some involuntary noises”???) as to what types of involuntary things he tended to shout. And you know the common saying, your right to swing your fist ends at my nose? (Or whatever the exact words are). To me this is the same. He cannot control his disability and I truly feel very bad for him. HOWEVER, it is deeply upsetting to be loudly called something so offensive as the N word as you’re on stage in front of a televised international audience. He could have muffled his voice during the speeches. He could have stepped out for every speech. He could have excused himself earlier. And most importantly, BAFTA could have given a legitimate heads up that was more specific and informative, and then they could have not televised the outburst!!! |
Your comments here are making this even worse PP. If “John apologizes all the time” for the impacts that his behavior might have on others, then it really stands out that he hasn’t apologized in what has become an international incident. As if that weren’t problematic enough, you suggest that such an apology would not be “genuine “. If this is true, then who is he apologizing to when he does so? What behaviors — in his mind or yours — warrant “genuine “ apologies? If not the n-word — with centuries of painful history behind it, then when? If not at a televised awards ceremony, then when? |
| The guy did apologize. He said he was mortified that it happened. He cannot control it. Are you all suggesting that he not have the same freedom of movement as the rest of us and be segregated somehow? You are unintentionally showing your bigotry with this ignorance. Do you see that? |
Did literally nobody in the audience watch the movie? Isn't that sort of required to be able to vote on winners? Are you saying nobody in the audience had any familiarity with the nominated movie or subject matter? |
| If anyone deserves an apology, it’s John, for not receiving the sympathy and empathy he deserves. |
+1. The man is there to celebrate a movie that brings attention to the condition he suffers from, which is an inability to control what he’s saying. And now he’s expected to apologize?! How about everyone apologize to him for not understanding his condition?? |