Bafta awards controversy

[Anonymous]

Everyone’s an expert on Tourette’s now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone deserves an apology, it’s John, for not receiving the sympathy and empathy he deserves.

+1. The man is there to celebrate a movie that brings attention to the condition he suffers from, which is an inability to control what he’s saying. And now he’s expected to apologize?! How about everyone apologize to him for not understanding his condition??

It does seem odd that he was invited there to celebrate the movie about his life and nobody bothered to watch it or have even a basic understanding of what his disability was. It's like being caught not doing your homework.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The guy did apologize. He said he was mortified that it happened. He cannot control it. Are you all suggesting that he not have the same freedom of movement as the rest of us and be segregated somehow? You are unintentionally showing your bigotry with this ignorance. Do you see that?

Nope. We’re pointing out that to say he’s “mortified” isn’t an apology. Your own ignorance and bigotry appear to be fully intentional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone deserves an apology, it’s John, for not receiving the sympathy and empathy he deserves.

+1. The man is there to celebrate a movie that brings attention to the condition he suffers from, which is an inability to control what he’s saying. And now he’s expected to apologize?! How about everyone apologize to him for not understanding his condition??

It does seem odd that he was invited there to celebrate the movie about his life and nobody bothered to watch it or have even a basic understanding of what his disability was. It's like being caught not doing your homework.

Who is”nobody”? Are you suggesting that everyone in the audience should have been forced to watch his movie prior to the awards event? Perhaps if everyone had — and had also watched Sinners, this incident would have been handled better all the way around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone deserves an apology, it’s John, for not receiving the sympathy and empathy he deserves.

+1. The man is there to celebrate a movie that brings attention to the condition he suffers from, which is an inability to control what he’s saying. And now he’s expected to apologize?! How about everyone apologize to him for not understanding his condition??

It does seem odd that he was invited there to celebrate the movie about his life and nobody bothered to watch it or have even a basic understanding of what his disability was. It's like being caught not doing your homework.

Who is”nobody”? Are you suggesting that everyone in the audience should have been forced to watch his movie prior to the awards event? Perhaps if everyone had — and had also watched Sinners, this incident would have been handled better all the way around.

If they are voting members of BAFTA then yes they would have seen the movie. This wasn't a random group of strangers who just happen to like movies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anyone deserves an apology, it’s John, for not receiving the sympathy and empathy he deserves.

+1. The man is there to celebrate a movie that brings attention to the condition he suffers from, which is an inability to control what he’s saying. And now he’s expected to apologize?! How about everyone apologize to him for not understanding his condition??

It does seem odd that he was invited there to celebrate the movie about his life and nobody bothered to watch it or have even a basic understanding of what his disability was. It's like being caught not doing your homework.

Who is”nobody”? Are you suggesting that everyone in the audience should have been forced to watch his movie prior to the awards event? Perhaps if everyone had — and had also watched Sinners, this incident would have been handled better all the way around.

Sinners was such a dumb film, I cannot understand why it’s receiving so much praise. Either be a serious historical drama or be a vampire flick. The second half of that movie was dumb.

[Anonymous]

So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

Watch the movie.

[Anonymous]

I feel bad for the guy with the condition, but I can't image being subjected to being called the N word as I accept such a prestigious award. That's not right.

They should have provided him accommodations that would also not subject award winners to racist epitaphs (especially as they were not made aware prior to the ceremony this might happen).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the guy with the condition, but I can't image being subjected to being called the N word as I accept such a prestigious award. That's not right.

They should have provided him accommodations that would also not subject award winners to racist epitaphs (especially as they were not made aware prior to the ceremony this might happen).

They were award presenters, not winners.

[Anonymous]

Intrusive thoughts aren't specific to Tourette Syndrome. They also exist in other conditions - including OCD, some anxiety disorders, PTSD, psychosis etc.

Intrusive thoughts are unwanted, distressing, and involuntary thoughts, images, or urges.

How the brain manges these thoughts differs by disorder. In coprolalia they are a compulsive involuntary vocalization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

I have been wondering if Cumming would have had a less blasé response if Davidson had shouted the f-word or something similar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're telling me that due to coprolalia, he has absolutely no control over his outbursts... yet his brain is "automatically" able to tailor a specific insult for a specific recipient?

Black people: Ns
Queen: f the queen

What's next?
SA survivors: "you f'ing deserved it"
Women PhDs: "dumb w---res"
Person in wheelchair: "cripple"

Really?

I'd maybe buy it if he called everyone Ns or hoes. But this just seems too far fetched.

Why does his brain go there, lol

I have been wondering if Cumming would have had a less blasé response if Davidson had shouted the f-word or something similar.

He did shout the f word - two or three times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Intrusive thoughts aren't specific to Tourette Syndrome. They also exist in other conditions - including OCD, some anxiety disorders, PTSD, psychosis etc.

Intrusive thoughts are unwanted, distressing, and involuntary thoughts, images, or urges.

How the brain manges these thoughts differs by disorder. In coprolalia they are a compulsive involuntary vocalization.

Imagine if this was your brother or family member. You can't go out in public with him because it would be dangerous. He's a loose cannon and at any moment might spout off to the wrong person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Intrusive thoughts aren't specific to Tourette Syndrome. They also exist in other conditions - including OCD, some anxiety disorders, PTSD, psychosis etc.

Intrusive thoughts are unwanted, distressing, and involuntary thoughts, images, or urges.

How the brain manges these thoughts differs by disorder. In coprolalia they are a compulsive involuntary vocalization.

Imagine if this was your brother or family member. You can't go out in public with him because it would be dangerous. He's a loose cannon and at any moment might spout off to the wrong person.

Yes, he has been hit and beat up a number of times when out in public. However he does have family and friends who understand him and are more than willing to be in public with him. He does try to educate when it happens and tell people its a medical condition and he can't control it - some get it and react with kindness and some don't.