John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


Schools are quite literally teaching gender identity ideology


Do parents cease to exist? They want prayer back in schools now. We’re an atheist family. Is my kid going to turn Christian because there’s prayer in school? No. Because I’m still the parent.


The thing is, these christians are terrified their kids will learn what being gay or especially trans is and put a name to the way they’ve been feeling all along. It’s not indoctrination they’re scared of. It’s learning about queer people because some religions people’s kids end up being LGBT. They want to force them to be cisgender and have straight relationships. They want to trap their children in unhappy lives and sham marriages with unwitting partners because they (the parents) feel they have a vested interest in their kid being straight and not trans. That’s the truth of the matter.


Nope. Trans is not queer. Sorry. It’s a very different thing than sexual preference.


Say you don’t understand the word queer without actually saying it.


DP. Rewriting queer by and for trans is destroying queer and LGBT movement.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


Do you know who else are human beings? Women. We have hopes and dreams and fears. And when the trans community decided to steamroll us, gaslight us, push us aside, and demand the use of "pregnant people" and "front hole," our humanity was threatened.

You notice how there is no male equivalent to TERF, right? Ask yourself why.


I am a woman and I feel none of this from the trans community.


That’s great for you. But you don’t get to decide that other women need to be fine with being referred to as front holes.
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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


Not a young woman's athletic scholarship depends on pitching on the softball team or the university allowing a trans man to take your place and scholarship because they can't compete with non-trans men.


Kamala voter and I agree—the fact that this rarely happens is totally irrelevant to a low info voter. They don’t like it, people have to stop defending it and not be afraid to say that it’s wrong.


If it happens a single time, it’s happened too many times.

Biological males should not play sports on any level with women. They are not women, women are women. It’s not hurting their feelings, it’s telling the truth.


None of you gave a shit about women and girls sports until it gave you a reason to have a grievance against transwomen.


The only people I know who bring up this topic are female athletes and parents of daughters.


Republican men were bringing it up constantly and I would expect that to continue even after Trump bans trans girls in girl’s sports because Republicans would melt away if they didn’t have something to be angry about. People still talk about Lia Thomas and she hasn’t swam in 2.5 years. Republicans talk more about trans people than trans people do.


Then it's good that Democrats are finally talking about trans men. Trans men do not spark joy in the electorate despite Kamala's beliefs.


this is also false. the dems actually did not run on progressive identity issues at ALL. find me one democratic ad that did. go on, i'll wait.

Let's see:

You spent over a decade trying to remold society to impose transgenderism as a "human rights issue."

You bastardized everything from science to education to laws like Title IX in order to replace sex with gender identity.

You destroyed careers to punish dissent, stripped parents of custody, and passed forced speech "anti-misgendering" laws in places like Harris's home state of California.

You groomed children with patently false ideas like selecting their own gender and then infiltrated education and corrupt medical bodies so teachers and doctors would affirm the lies you told these children.

You promoted the misuse of powerful drugs to chemically castrate children into ghoulish facsimiles of the opposite sex so the adult transgender "women" who run your cult could say "see, it's natural! even children are trans!"

AND THEN, seeing a major backlash building, you decided you would try a trick. You decided not to admit or repudiate any of your misdeeds, but to instead keep quiet about them. You colluded with legacy media to try to shift the narrative and pretend those blowing the whistle on your insane deeds were the ones "obsessed." You thought you were so clever in pretending the 10-year timeline in which your cult tried to gaslight, intimidate, indoctrinate society into transgenderism never happened.

But oops, it didn't work. Voters' memories are longer than three seconds as it turns out.

Yet you're still out in force trying to lie that what you made sure was happening for 10 years never happened. Maybe if you keep going, people won't notice you have never abandoned your transgender agenda and still intend to impose it at the next opportunity. We'll see, I guess.


and firing a teacher for refusing to play the pronoun game is costing this rural school board half a million, in just one single case:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-school-board-settlement-teacher-refusal-trans-student-pronoun/
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


Do you know who else are human beings? Women. We have hopes and dreams and fears. And when the trans community decided to steamroll us, gaslight us, push us aside, and demand the use of "pregnant people" and "front hole," our humanity was threatened.

You notice how there is no male equivalent to TERF, right? Ask yourself why.


Because TERF is a term created and defined by trans exclusionary radical feminists and the term TERF includes men and women. Jesus Christ…
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


You can care about two things at once. Try it some time. Can you link to where the left demonized women who were victimized in prison by a trans prisoner? I’d like to see it.


OMG do you know nothing about the ACLU’s intervention in law suits raised by female prisoners concerning their safety?

Read how the ACLU talks about the women prisoners concerned about their safety or who have experienced violence. Read about how women who raised safety concerns were put in solitary confinement. Read about how California has treated the women prisoners who have been harmed.

Educate yourself. And no, I’m not linking to the docket for you. There are too many links, and some are court filings. You should do your own damn homework anyhow.


Well said.


Where are the “left” I.e. politicians within the Democratic Party demonizing victims? Of course I know about the ACLU. They’re not “the left.” A court filing isn’t democratic policy demonizing victims.

I’m actually more concerned about our mass incarceration problem in the US. I wonder why that isn’t your priority. To use your own words, why don’t you care about the humanity of prisoners…at all?


Do you believe California prison policies implemented and defended by Democrats are somehow not “the left”? Bizarre denialism.
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Anonymous wrote:It would have been so easy for Dems to reframe all of this as a fight for medical freedom, for women, for parents, etc.

Instead we fought about pronouns. Dumbasses.



The problem with this strategy is Dems also spent the entirety of the pandemic screeching that there WERE no “medical freedoms”, at least when it came to doing what an individual thought best for their own body, and that “freedumb” itself was a dangerous, Trumpian concept worthy of scorn and ridicule whenever it was brought up.

So the “freedom” avenue isn’t available to democrats now. Not for at least another decade or two.


Trump was president during the pandemic. Not sure how Dems get blamed for it when he’s clearly the one who took our medical freedoms away and will continue to do so.


The pandemic ended in May 2023. Checking my notes, it was Biden, who was President from January 2021 to May 2023, who forced people to get a vaccine that neither stopped disease nor stopped the transmission of it. The democratic government decided our bodies were for their public use.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


Schools are quite literally teaching gender identity ideology


Do parents cease to exist? They want prayer back in schools now. We’re an atheist family. Is my kid going to turn Christian because there’s prayer in school? No. Because I’m still the parent.


The thing is, these christians are terrified their kids will learn what being gay or especially trans is and put a name to the way they’ve been feeling all along. It’s not indoctrination they’re scared of. It’s learning about queer people because some religions people’s kids end up being LGBT. They want to force them to be cisgender and have straight relationships. They want to trap their children in unhappy lives and sham marriages with unwitting partners because they (the parents) feel they have a vested interest in their kid being straight and not trans. That’s the truth of the matter.


Nope. Trans is not queer. Sorry. It’s a very different thing than sexual preference.


Say you don’t understand the word queer without actually saying it.


DP. Rewriting queer by and for trans is destroying queer and LGBT movement.


You are rewriting queer. It is a reclaimed slur and a lot of LGBT people were called queer. The fact that you don’t understand this shows the depth of your ignorance.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


Schools are quite literally teaching gender identity ideology


Do parents cease to exist? They want prayer back in schools now. We’re an atheist family. Is my kid going to turn Christian because there’s prayer in school? No. Because I’m still the parent.


The thing is, these christians are terrified their kids will learn what being gay or especially trans is and put a name to the way they’ve been feeling all along. It’s not indoctrination they’re scared of. It’s learning about queer people because some religions people’s kids end up being LGBT. They want to force them to be cisgender and have straight relationships. They want to trap their children in unhappy lives and sham marriages with unwitting partners because they (the parents) feel they have a vested interest in their kid being straight and not trans. That’s the truth of the matter.


Nope. Trans is not queer. Sorry. It’s a very different thing than sexual preference.


Say you don’t understand the word queer without actually saying it.


DP. Rewriting queer by and for trans is destroying queer and LGBT movement.


You are rewriting queer. It is a reclaimed slur and a lot of LGBT people were called queer. The fact that you don’t understand this shows the depth of your ignorance.


Trans want trans = queer but it doesn't.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump had about as many voters as he had last time. Haris vastly underperformed Biden. You can’t win a mud slinging contest when Trump is sitting in a pigsty flinging sht and she was trying to clean up after him. She should have gotten dirty too. She should have gone where young people consume media. The Democrats have a bad habit of acting like they’re in an ivory tower above it all while Republicans are fighting a street fight with nuclear bombs.


"Trump had about as many voters as he had last time."
Well that's not true trump got 76,455,152 million votes in 2024 and 74,224,319 in 2020. He got at least 2,230,833 more votes this time around.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


Schools are quite literally teaching gender identity ideology


Do parents cease to exist? They want prayer back in schools now. We’re an atheist family. Is my kid going to turn Christian because there’s prayer in school? No. Because I’m still the parent.


The thing is, these christians are terrified their kids will learn what being gay or especially trans is and put a name to the way they’ve been feeling all along. It’s not indoctrination they’re scared of. It’s learning about queer people because some religions people’s kids end up being LGBT. They want to force them to be cisgender and have straight relationships. They want to trap their children in unhappy lives and sham marriages with unwitting partners because they (the parents) feel they have a vested interest in their kid being straight and not trans. That’s the truth of the matter.


Nope. Trans is not queer. Sorry. It’s a very different thing than sexual preference.


Say you don’t understand the word queer without actually saying it.


DP. Rewriting queer by and for trans is destroying queer and LGBT movement.


You are rewriting queer. It is a reclaimed slur and a lot of LGBT people were called queer. The fact that you don’t understand this shows the depth of your ignorance.


Trans want trans = queer but it doesn't.


Trans people have always been queer.
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It is interesting how Oliver ignored the plentiful research contradicting his position.

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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats move to the Left, it should be on kitchen table economic issues. That is their traditional strength.

I'm sorry, but the harsh reality is that to most of the country, trans stuff is regarded as bourgeois degeneracy.


Most of the trans stuff is being pushed by a vocal minority, a part of the progressive wing that only represents less than 10% of Democrats.

The Democrats problem is that they let this small but vocal minority drown out everything else they have to say, and while they are objectively better on policy on the majority of things that would benefit most Americans, they suck at messaging on it.

They are also drowned out by the right wing, which lies about absolutely everything.


It is not a fringe of the party - the Biden administration rewrote Title IX to accommodate transgender ideology. And they are defending it in court.


It wasn’t the Biden admin. This is from SCOTUS.


Flat out wrong. The majority opinion said they weren’t ruling on that issue, only workplace discrimination. It was Biden’s choice to move this to the educational arena and federal judges put up blocks to the changes.
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Kindergarten Teachers can’t say boys and girls anymore. They’re told it’s offensive
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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats move to the Left, it should be on kitchen table economic issues. That is their traditional strength.

I'm sorry, but the harsh reality is that to most of the country, trans stuff is regarded as bourgeois degeneracy.


Most of the trans stuff is being pushed by a vocal minority, a part of the progressive wing that only represents less than 10% of Democrats.

The Democrats problem is that they let this small but vocal minority drown out everything else they have to say, and while they are objectively better on policy on the majority of things that would benefit most Americans, they suck at messaging on it.

They are also drowned out by the right wing, which lies about absolutely everything.


It is not a fringe of the party - the Biden administration rewrote Title IX to accommodate transgender ideology. And they are defending it in court.


+1. Also remember Justice Jackson’s confirmation hearings when she wouldnt define woman? That’s what people remember about this administration, and I am surprised by the comments above that Harris didn’t run on this. When you are the incumbent, your opponent runs on everything that happened during your tenure.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


Do you know who else are human beings? Women. We have hopes and dreams and fears. And when the trans community decided to steamroll us, gaslight us, push us aside, and demand the use of "pregnant people" and "front hole," our humanity was threatened.

You notice how there is no male equivalent to TERF, right? Ask yourself why.


Because TERF is a term created and defined by trans exclusionary radical feminists and the term TERF includes men and women. Jesus Christ…


Wrong. The term comes from Viv Smythe who is trans inclusive. From a 2008 blog post.
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