John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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Anonymous wrote:I know and have known more than a handful of adolescent girls and a few boys who are dealing with gender identity issues. It is mainly girls, honestly. I used to work in a school and I have teen boys. I think there are multiple causes and it is a complicated phenomenon. Unfortunately, the R's have demonized the issue and in turn the kids who are clearly struggling along with their parents. I find it sad all around and not sure how it became such a political issue.

Except that no one is demonizing anyone. The issue is simply that biological males should not be playing sports against biological females. Why can’t you grasp this?

The issue is much bigger than sports. And yes people, the most vulnerable here, are being demonized.

I'm a huge supporter of individual rights but I have to agree with the PP if simply stating the fact that biological males shouldn't be allowed to compete biological females in athletics/sports. That's just basic common sense and acknowledging that obvious truth isn't demonizing anyone.

I understand that! But rhetoric on the right especially is demonizing those who are struggling with these issues. I am NOT talking about sports.

I'm not "on the right" and I am specifically talking about sports. Nothing else.

Great. But again, the right has used bigotry to win. Many are couching it in concern for girls sports. Ok, legit issue but in bad faith for many who don't give damn about protecting women except when it is useful politically for them.

Exactly. Go look at the voting records of those on the right and see who voted against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, which also deals with violence on college campuses. Protectors of women my ass. Performative BS.

Goodness I had no idea that violence against women was legal without this law. We must do something!

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So is the goal of Republicans to make this country safer for women?

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Anonymous wrote:So is the goal of Republicans to make this country safer for women?

No. But they weren't in power. As should now be abundantly clear, people don't vote for things they vote against things.

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Anonymous wrote:I know and have known more than a handful of adolescent girls and a few boys who are dealing with gender identity issues. It is mainly girls, honestly. I used to work in a school and I have teen boys. I think there are multiple causes and it is a complicated phenomenon. Unfortunately, the R's have demonized the issue and in turn the kids who are clearly struggling along with their parents. I find it sad all around and not sure how it became such a political issue.

Except that no one is demonizing anyone. The issue is simply that biological males should not be playing sports against biological females. Why can’t you grasp this?

The issue is much bigger than sports. And yes people, the most vulnerable here, are being demonized.

I'm a huge supporter of individual rights but I have to agree with the PP if simply stating the fact that biological males shouldn't be allowed to compete biological females in athletics/sports. That's just basic common sense and acknowledging that obvious truth isn't demonizing anyone.

I understand that! But rhetoric on the right especially is demonizing those who are struggling with these issues. I am NOT talking about sports.

I'm not "on the right" and I am specifically talking about sports. Nothing else.

Great. But again, the right has used bigotry to win. Many are couching it in concern for girls sports. Ok, legit issue but in bad faith for many who don't give damn about protecting women except when it is useful politically for them.

Exactly. Go look at the voting records of those on the right and see who voted against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, which also deals with violence on college campuses. Protectors of women my ass. Performative BS.

Goodness I had no idea that violence against women was legal without this law. We must do something!

Tell me you know nothing about VAWA without…. Oh never mind. Your ignorance is astounding.

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Anonymous wrote:So is the goal of Republicans to make this country safer for women?

No.

At least you’re honest.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

Do you know who else are human beings? Women. We have hopes and dreams and fears. And when the trans community decided to steamroll us, gaslight us, push us aside, and demand the use of "pregnant people" and "front hole," our humanity was threatened.

You notice how there is no male equivalent to TERF, right? Ask yourself why.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

You can care about two things at once. Try it some time. Can you link to where the left demonized women who were victimized in prison by a trans prisoner? I’d like to see it.

OMG do you know nothing about the ACLU’s intervention in law suits raised by female prisoners concerning their safety?

Read how the ACLU talks about the women prisoners concerned about their safety or who have experienced violence. Read about how women who raised safety concerns were put in solitary confinement. Read about how California has treated the women prisoners who have been harmed.

Educate yourself. And no, I’m not linking to the docket for you. There are too many links, and some are court filings. You should do your own damn homework anyhow.

Well said.

Where are the “left” I.e. politicians within the Democratic Party demonizing victims? Of course I know about the ACLU. They’re not “the left.” A court filing isn’t democratic policy demonizing victims.

I’m actually more concerned about our mass incarceration problem in the US. I wonder why that isn’t your priority. To use your own words, why don’t you care about the humanity of prisoners…at all?

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And speaking of dangers to women, can we talk about this trend of men (often chirch adjacent) murdering their wives and girlfriends for leaving them? It’s not even a trend. It’s so normal. It barely gets new coverage anymore.

Can we talk about the proliference of “your body my choice” sloganeering that is going on among our young men these last 10 days?

Can we talk about the trad wife trend?

What about the bill in Texas to get rid of no-fault divorce? We can expect these in red states.

I could go on. I live in Texas. These men do not care about women. They care about power and they will use whatever wedge issue they can to keep it.

The shortsighted anger at the trans issue is only going to result in less power and safety for women in the long-term. And lest you blame the Democrats, how come they were plenty of Dems who have issues with this but were still able to vote for Harris. Last I checked, we are all responsible for our own votes.

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Anonymous wrote:The ACLU is now “the dems?”

Once again, I’d like to remind everyone that only the Supreme Court can clarify the Bostock decision. Gorsuch expanded the definition of “sex discrimination.”

You think the ACLU is on the side of the Republicans?

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/american-civil-liberties-union/recipients?id=D000031473

ACLU defended Rush Limbaugh.

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The ACLU is nonpartisan. It’s Bill of Rights driven. If you see that as partisan that’s a you issue.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

You can care about two things at once. Try it some time. Can you link to where the left demonized women who were victimized in prison by a trans prisoner? I’d like to see it.

OMG do you know nothing about the ACLU’s intervention in law suits raised by female prisoners concerning their safety?

Read how the ACLU talks about the women prisoners concerned about their safety or who have experienced violence. Read about how women who raised safety concerns were put in solitary confinement. Read about how California has treated the women prisoners who have been harmed.

Educate yourself. And no, I’m not linking to the docket for you. There are too many links, and some are court filings. You should do your own damn homework anyhow.

Well said.

Where are the “left” I.e. politicians within the Democratic Party demonizing victims? Of course I know about the ACLU. They’re not “the left.” A court filing isn’t democratic policy demonizing victims.

I’m actually more concerned about our mass incarceration problem in the US. I wonder why that isn’t your priority. To use your own words, why don’t you care about the humanity of prisoners…at all?

DP. People have been caring about the "mass incarceration" issue in the US for the past few years and have been legalizing drugs, reducing or eliminating jail time and convictions for various crimes. We see the result here in DC.

We are over it. We are ready for more incarceration.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

Do you know who else are human beings? Women. We have hopes and dreams and fears. And when the trans community decided to steamroll us, gaslight us, push us aside, and demand the use of "pregnant people" and "front hole," our humanity was threatened.

You notice how there is no male equivalent to TERF, right? Ask yourself why.

I am a woman and I feel none of this from the trans community.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/john-oliver-democrats-trans-election#toggle-gdpr

If you're "pointing the blame at one specific demographic" for Democrats' losses in last week's elections, you're gravely "missing the mark," according to John Oliver.

The comedian tackled Kamala Harris' defeat during the most recent episode of Last Week Tonight, calling out supposed progressives who have turned against transgender people and blamed so-called "woke" issues for Donald Trump's win.

"It's telling how quickly some are jumping to predetermined conclusions that don't match the campaign that just wrapped up," Oliver said. "For instance, some Democrats are loudly claiming that the party needs to move to the center."

The host then referenced comments from New York congressman Tom Suozzi, a Democrat, who recently argued that "the Democrats have to stop pandering to the far left ... I don't want to discriminate against anybody, but I don't think biological boys should be playing in girls' sports." Other Democratic lawmakers have made similar claims in the wake of Harris' loss.

https://www.tiktok.com/@lastweektonighthbo/video/7437190944551669035


If you watch the clip, he is very forcefully rejecting the argument Suozzi made.

And he is forcefully wrong.

Anyone with school-aged kids knows this is not a small issue. It’s pervasive. Its in the schools, its in the doctors office, its everytime I fill out a form and get 13 choices for my child’s gender. I know I’m not the only mom who switched my vote to republican this year over it.

Just as one example, there are 5th graders at my kid’s school who identify as wolves and the other kids get in trouble if they use the term “furry” rather than “therian.” Meanwhile the few black kids at the school have been called racial slurs and rarely does anyone get in trouble…the admin seems totally clueless it’s even happening. This is in a purple state, with many Trump voters.

The sad and complicated truth, from someone who has been teaching 17 years, is that Trumpism has empowered kids and adults to say the “n-word” again. It disgusts me. It’s also absolutely true that the gender issue is pervasive, and Dems look dumb when they deny it. Another example…we have a HS state champion runner who is a trans girl, who keeps winning big, even though when she ran with the boys team she didn’t even place. Is it a huge deal to me personally? No. Would I vote for Trump because of it? No way.

But it IS happening and when Dems deny that it is, they piss people off. Plain and simple.

Have you ever listened to rap music? they say the n word constantly during their songs.

That’s what kids listen to.

Um, yeah, I was listening to it in the 90’s. No doubt there was plenty of cultural insensitivity and rapping along to lyrics at my high school. We all still knew not to use the hard “r” version, which I what I am talking about here. Like I said, I have been teaching in the same area for a long time, long enough to see trends and habits change. Obviously it’s just one anecdote. But it’s a trend I have found troubling, to say the least. Also, to be clear—I don’t think it’s just Trump, I also think it’s that newer generations are less familiar with the battles of the Civil Rights movement. I’m 44 so my parents were actually part of some of those movements and it was part of my understanding of the world growing up. For younger generations, it feels far more distant and abstract. I guess I just think all of this stuff is more complicated than people want to examine. We all want the silver bullet answer, of course. I get that. And pundits with black and white views, such as those on Fox News and also, yeah, someone like John Oliver, give that to their audiences.

Kamala had Lil Jon at her coronation as the DNC candidate. You know, Lil Jon?

“ 3-6-9, damn, you fine
Hoping she can sock it to me one more time
Get low
Get low (get low)
Get low (get low)
Get low (get low)
To the window (to the window)
To the wall (to the wall)
Till the sweat drop down my balls (my balls)
Till all these b!+ches crawl (crawl)


In sum, Kamala is fine, telling “till all these beaches crawl.” (but he does not say beaches)


Now let’s discuss the N word, amirite, dems?

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

Show me where "the left" has demonized or dehumanized women victimized by transwomen in prison.

Just as bad, they simply ignore it as if it never even happened at all. They won’t even acknowledge it.

+1 it’s messed up that women are ignored even when being beaten and raped in prison. No woman should be beaten and raped by a man, much less imprisoned with a man with no escape and attacked. My G-d people wake up.

Interesting. I wonder why most women are in prison to begin with…. Do some research and maybe care about them being beaten and raped by men before entering prison. Guess who doesn’t care about that?

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

Schools are quite literally teaching gender identity ideology

Do parents cease to exist? They want prayer back in schools now. We’re an atheist family. Is my kid going to turn Christian because there’s prayer in school? No. Because I’m still the parent.

The thing is, these christians are terrified their kids will learn what being gay or especially trans is and put a name to the way they’ve been feeling all along. It’s not indoctrination they’re scared of. It’s learning about queer people because some religions people’s kids end up being LGBT. They want to force them to be cisgender and have straight relationships. They want to trap their children in unhappy lives and sham marriages with unwitting partners because they (the parents) feel they have a vested interest in their kid being straight and not trans. That’s the truth of the matter.

Nope. Trans is not queer. Sorry. It’s a very different thing than sexual preference.

Say you don’t understand the word queer without actually saying it.

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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats move to the Left, it should be on kitchen table economic issues. That is their traditional strength.

I'm sorry, but the harsh reality is that to most of the country, trans stuff is regarded as bourgeois degeneracy.

Most of the trans stuff is being pushed by a vocal minority, a part of the progressive wing that only represents less than 10% of Democrats.

The Democrats problem is that they let this small but vocal minority drown out everything else they have to say, and while they are objectively better on policy on the majority of things that would benefit most Americans, they suck at messaging on it.

They are also drowned out by the right wing, which lies about absolutely everything.

It is not a fringe of the party - the Biden administration rewrote Title IX to accommodate transgender ideology. And they are defending it in court.

It wasn’t the Biden admin. This is from SCOTUS.

On his first day in office, Biden issued this executive order regarding gender identity and Title IX. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/executive-order-preventing-and-combating-discrimination-on-basis-of-gender-identity-or-sexual-orientation/