Student walkout

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

When all it takes to gain access to the girls’ locker room is an assertion that one is trans or non-binary, it obviously changes the dynamic in a material way.

Yep. I don’t want trans kids in my daughter’s bathroom.

Not even transgender boys?

Anyone going into the girls bathroom must have a vagina.

People with a uterus?

Penises do not belong in the girls bathroom, even if the man is dressing like a woman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Very low participation at our school. Why don’t parents listen to kids? They aren’t the ones against the Governors policy. If you actually read it, it is a pretty good policy. The kids see that.

I agree.

The kids I know who have actually read Youngkins policy went from being very outraged based of headlines, to "why is everyone so upset over this new policy."

Our school also had very low participation at both the high school and the middle school.

Our school had low participation too. Less than 1%. My son didn’t even mention or seem to know about the walkout. Thank God. I’m now talking to him about not leaving school for these ridiculous walkouts.

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Anonymous wrote:Very low participation at our school. Why don’t parents listen to kids? They aren’t the ones against the Governors policy. If you actually read it, it is a pretty good policy. The kids see that.

Alternative position based on our school and talking to my child: low participation because the kids largely did not know about it. Between school, sports, homecoming, etc. the kids are not reading newspapers and watching the news. They are busy. Lots and lots did not know about it. That's not the same as "they aren't the ones against the Governor's policy."

I had read that some schools the walkouts count as missing a class which make a student ineligible for playing in a game or participating at practice that day, which would deter some kids from participating.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

But that isn’t the whole story — the one student was transferred to another school after the incident was attempted or completed at the previous school. Again probably a one off story, but it did stoke concerns about parents being kept in the dark.

The situation is not as black and white as people want to believe. Imagine going into a parent-teacher type meeting. Maybe teachers only know a student by the student’s new identity and the parents are unaware of this new identity.

The new sex in the city provides a imperfectly perfect example of this type of situation involving Charlotte’s younger child.

Parents are blanketedly being cast in role if the can’t be trusted category, when at the end of the day they are responsible for them. In some ways you can draw parallels between what’s happening with the overturning of abortion and women’s rights. In this case parents can’t be trusted to do what’s best for their kids.

This is just not true. Teachers just don't want to be in the role of monitoring and reporting. Putting teachers in this role damages the relationships they have with students around so many issues. Kids talk and write about their friendships in class, about things they are worried about etc. If the teacher is perceived as someone who can constantly be tapped for info about their lives, they will just shut up about it. Teachers currently monitor and report abuse/danger/rule-breaking. Adding more to that is a burden and unfair--especially since there is no evidence that using another name is harmful. You might not want your kid to play around with names and pronouns, but in my view you have no right to force others to monitor and report that to you.

Parents need to step up and be involved in their kids' lives, not force others to inform on them.

Sorry, I disagree. I see teachers also being in a difficult position, but when parents are deliberately kept out of the conversations about their own child then they are cast as the bad guys. Even if kids have good relationships with their parents, coming out can be hard. But letting parents be the last to know is not good. There may be other problems at home that could be alleviated if the parents are informed. I’m not saying schools need to do a check every day on every students identity. However, if a student is receiving for example counseling services through school about this or other mental/physical/social issues, the parents need to be informed.

I'm the PP--I agree students that students who receive school counseling on an issue should have their parents informed (though I do understand that this then can be a deterrent to seeking counseling) because they are experiencing the need for support. I'm disagreeing with asking teachers to report things like name changes/social behaviors etc. to parents for kids who have not sought counseling for the issue.

I’m the PP — I think we agree far more than we may disagree.

You do know that when a child sees a therapist, their parents are not informed of the content of those conversations. parents are only informed if there is something they need to be aware of, such as suicidal thoughts. But otherwise, those conversations are confidential.

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You know if I were a kid in high school I would start dressing as a man and ask to change my pronounce just to overwhelm this bigoted harmful system and provide cover for my friends. Anyone doing that yet? Haven’t read this thread because I’m too sad.

[Anonymous]

I really do not understand the bathroom thing. I have used mens rooms in the past because the ladies line was to long. My father said He would never want his daughters (me) forced to use a bathroom with a person assigned male at birth. i told him I did not care. If someone is going to rape, they are going to rape regardless of if they are "allowed" in the womens room. I mean I think the bigger issue is rapists and not the point of allowing people to pee in private where they are comfortable

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

When all it takes to gain access to the girls’ locker room is an assertion that one is trans or non-binary, it obviously changes the dynamic in a material way.

Yep. I don’t want trans kids in my daughter’s bathroom.

Not even transgender boys?

Anyone going into the girls bathroom must have a vagina.

So you do support some transgender kids going into her bathroom.

Who is doing this vagina checking? And why are Republicans so obsessed with kids’ genitals? Creepy.

Waaaaaait a minute. We all know which party is the pervy party and it’s not the Republicans. You guys are the creepy ones wanting to discuss sex topics with kindergarteners. Don’t try to turn this around.

No, you're the ones who sees a book about penguins and thinks it's a talk about sex or sees a picture book with all different kinds of families and thinks it's a talk about sex. Show us the kindergarten curriculum that is about sex. Really--just try and find one that is actually true. (And isn't a basic 'safe from abuse' lesson like -- "if you feel uncomfortable about how someone is touching you tell a trusted adult").

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Very low participation at our school. Why don’t parents listen to kids? They aren’t the ones against the Governors policy. If you actually read it, it is a pretty good policy. The kids see that.

I agree.

The kids I know who have actually read Youngkins policy went from being very outraged based of headlines, to "why is everyone so upset over this new policy."

Our school also had very low participation at both the high school and the middle school.

Our school had low participation too. Less than 1%. My son didn’t even mention or seem to know about the walkout. Thank God. I’m now talking to him about not leaving school for these ridiculous walkouts.

My kid who completely supports transgender issues and hates the policy didn't walk about because she was worried she would get into trouble. I told her it is her decision and I would support her either way.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

When all it takes to gain access to the girls’ locker room is an assertion that one is trans or non-binary, it obviously changes the dynamic in a material way.

Yep. I don’t want trans kids in my daughter’s bathroom.

Not even transgender boys?

Anyone going into the girls bathroom must have a vagina.

So you do support some transgender kids going into her bathroom.

Who is doing this vagina checking? And why are Republicans so obsessed with kids’ genitals? Creepy.

Waaaaaait a minute. We all know which party is the pervy party and it’s not the Republicans. You guys are the creepy ones wanting to discuss sex topics with kindergarteners. Don’t try to turn this around.

No, you're the ones who sees a book about penguins and thinks it's a talk about sex or sees a picture book with all different kinds of families and thinks it's a talk about sex. Show us the kindergarten curriculum that is about sex. Really--just try and find one that is actually true. (And isn't a basic 'safe from abuse' lesson like -- "if you feel uncomfortable about how someone is touching you tell a trusted adult").

You want to but reasonable people step up and vote in lawmakers that stop you. And then you try to influence kids to protest for you. Liberalism is a mental illness.

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Anonymous wrote:I really do not understand the bathroom thing. I have used mens rooms in the past because the ladies line was to long. My father said He would never want his daughters (me) forced to use a bathroom with a person assigned male at birth. i told him I did not care. If someone is going to rape, they are going to rape regardless of if they are "allowed" in the womens room. I mean I think the bigger issue is rapists and not the point of allowing people to pee in private where they are comfortable

I agree and this is exactly what I told my teen children. Rapists are bad and sick people. It has nothing to do with anyone being straight, gay, trans, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

But that isn’t the whole story — the one student was transferred to another school after the incident was attempted or completed at the previous school. Again probably a one off story, but it did stoke concerns about parents being kept in the dark.

The situation is not as black and white as people want to believe. Imagine going into a parent-teacher type meeting. Maybe teachers only know a student by the student’s new identity and the parents are unaware of this new identity.

The new sex in the city provides a imperfectly perfect example of this type of situation involving Charlotte’s younger child.

Parents are blanketedly being cast in role if the can’t be trusted category, when at the end of the day they are responsible for them. In some ways you can draw parallels between what’s happening with the overturning of abortion and women’s rights. In this case parents can’t be trusted to do what’s best for their kids.

This is just not true. Teachers just don't want to be in the role of monitoring and reporting. Putting teachers in this role damages the relationships they have with students around so many issues. Kids talk and write about their friendships in class, about things they are worried about etc. If the teacher is perceived as someone who can constantly be tapped for info about their lives, they will just shut up about it. Teachers currently monitor and report abuse/danger/rule-breaking. Adding more to that is a burden and unfair--especially since there is no evidence that using another name is harmful. You might not want your kid to play around with names and pronouns, but in my view you have no right to force others to monitor and report that to you.

Parents need to step up and be involved in their kids' lives, not force others to inform on them.

Sorry, I disagree. I see teachers also being in a difficult position, but when parents are deliberately kept out of the conversations about their own child then they are cast as the bad guys. Even if kids have good relationships with their parents, coming out can be hard. But letting parents be the last to know is not good. There may be other problems at home that could be alleviated if the parents are informed. I’m not saying schools need to do a check every day on every students identity. However, if a student is receiving for example counseling services through school about this or other mental/physical/social issues, the parents need to be informed.

I'm the PP--I agree students that students who receive school counseling on an issue should have their parents informed (though I do understand that this then can be a deterrent to seeking counseling) because they are experiencing the need for support. I'm disagreeing with asking teachers to report things like name changes/social behaviors etc. to parents for kids who have not sought counseling for the issue.

I’m the PP — I think we agree far more than we may disagree.

You do know that when a child sees a therapist, their parents are not informed of the content of those conversations. parents are only informed if there is something they need to be aware of, such as suicidal thoughts. But otherwise, those conversations are confidential.

I am aware, and I’m not 100% on board with that. If my child is having issues, I need to know in order to find support for them and our family. My minor children cannot get piercings or tattoos without parental consent, but they can have medical consultations and procedures done behind my back. It doesn’t make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I really do not understand the bathroom thing. I have used mens rooms in the past because the ladies line was to long. My father said He would never want his daughters (me) forced to use a bathroom with a person assigned male at birth. i told him I did not care. If someone is going to rape, they are going to rape regardless of if they are "allowed" in the womens room. I mean I think the bigger issue is rapists and not the point of allowing people to pee in private where they are comfortable

I have also done this. But I know men later that weren’t always comfortable with that. Didn’t occur to me at the time though.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

But that isn’t the whole story — the one student was transferred to another school after the incident was attempted or completed at the previous school. Again probably a one off story, but it did stoke concerns about parents being kept in the dark.

The situation is not as black and white as people want to believe. Imagine going into a parent-teacher type meeting. Maybe teachers only know a student by the student’s new identity and the parents are unaware of this new identity.

The new sex in the city provides a imperfectly perfect example of this type of situation involving Charlotte’s younger child.

Parents are blanketedly being cast in role if the can’t be trusted category, when at the end of the day they are responsible for them. In some ways you can draw parallels between what’s happening with the overturning of abortion and women’s rights. In this case parents can’t be trusted to do what’s best for their kids.

This is just not true. Teachers just don't want to be in the role of monitoring and reporting. Putting teachers in this role damages the relationships they have with students around so many issues. Kids talk and write about their friendships in class, about things they are worried about etc. If the teacher is perceived as someone who can constantly be tapped for info about their lives, they will just shut up about it. Teachers currently monitor and report abuse/danger/rule-breaking. Adding more to that is a burden and unfair--especially since there is no evidence that using another name is harmful. You might not want your kid to play around with names and pronouns, but in my view you have no right to force others to monitor and report that to you.

Parents need to step up and be involved in their kids' lives, not force others to inform on them.

Sorry, I disagree. I see teachers also being in a difficult position, but when parents are deliberately kept out of the conversations about their own child then they are cast as the bad guys. Even if kids have good relationships with their parents, coming out can be hard. But letting parents be the last to know is not good. There may be other problems at home that could be alleviated if the parents are informed. I’m not saying schools need to do a check every day on every students identity. However, if a student is receiving for example counseling services through school about this or other mental/physical/social issues, the parents need to be informed.

I'm the PP--I agree students that students who receive school counseling on an issue should have their parents informed (though I do understand that this then can be a deterrent to seeking counseling) because they are experiencing the need for support. I'm disagreeing with asking teachers to report things like name changes/social behaviors etc. to parents for kids who have not sought counseling for the issue.

I’m the PP — I think we agree far more than we may disagree.

You do know that when a child sees a therapist, their parents are not informed of the content of those conversations. parents are only informed if there is something they need to be aware of, such as suicidal thoughts. But otherwise, those conversations are confidential.

I am aware, and I’m not 100% on board with that. If my child is having issues, I need to know in order to find support for them and our family. My minor children cannot get piercings or tattoos without parental consent, but they can have medical consultations and procedures done behind my back. It doesn’t make sense.

Moreover, schools are not therapists. No need for hiding info.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

But that isn’t the whole story — the one student was transferred to another school after the incident was attempted or completed at the previous school. Again probably a one off story, but it did stoke concerns about parents being kept in the dark.

The situation is not as black and white as people want to believe. Imagine going into a parent-teacher type meeting. Maybe teachers only know a student by the student’s new identity and the parents are unaware of this new identity.

The new sex in the city provides a imperfectly perfect example of this type of situation involving Charlotte’s younger child.

Parents are blanketedly being cast in role if the can’t be trusted category, when at the end of the day they are responsible for them. In some ways you can draw parallels between what’s happening with the overturning of abortion and women’s rights. In this case parents can’t be trusted to do what’s best for their kids.

This is just not true. Teachers just don't want to be in the role of monitoring and reporting. Putting teachers in this role damages the relationships they have with students around so many issues. Kids talk and write about their friendships in class, about things they are worried about etc. If the teacher is perceived as someone who can constantly be tapped for info about their lives, they will just shut up about it. Teachers currently monitor and report abuse/danger/rule-breaking. Adding more to that is a burden and unfair--especially since there is no evidence that using another name is harmful. You might not want your kid to play around with names and pronouns, but in my view you have no right to force others to monitor and report that to you.

Parents need to step up and be involved in their kids' lives, not force others to inform on them.

Sorry, I disagree. I see teachers also being in a difficult position, but when parents are deliberately kept out of the conversations about their own child then they are cast as the bad guys. Even if kids have good relationships with their parents, coming out can be hard. But letting parents be the last to know is not good. There may be other problems at home that could be alleviated if the parents are informed. I’m not saying schools need to do a check every day on every students identity. However, if a student is receiving for example counseling services through school about this or other mental/physical/social issues, the parents need to be informed.

I'm the PP--I agree students that students who receive school counseling on an issue should have their parents informed (though I do understand that this then can be a deterrent to seeking counseling) because they are experiencing the need for support. I'm disagreeing with asking teachers to report things like name changes/social behaviors etc. to parents for kids who have not sought counseling for the issue.

I’m the PP — I think we agree far more than we may disagree.

You do know that when a child sees a therapist, their parents are not informed of the content of those conversations. parents are only informed if there is something they need to be aware of, such as suicidal thoughts. But otherwise, those conversations are confidential.

I am aware, and I’m not 100% on board with that. If my child is having issues, I need to know in order to find support for them and our family. My minor children cannot get piercings or tattoos without parental consent, but they can have medical consultations and procedures done behind my back. It doesn’t make sense.

Moreover, schools are not therapists. No need for hiding info.

Medical procedures are not done without parental consent for minors. What are you talking about? You are literally making up demons and then fighting them.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

But that isn’t the whole story — the one student was transferred to another school after the incident was attempted or completed at the previous school. Again probably a one off story, but it did stoke concerns about parents being kept in the dark.

The situation is not as black and white as people want to believe. Imagine going into a parent-teacher type meeting. Maybe teachers only know a student by the student’s new identity and the parents are unaware of this new identity.

The new sex in the city provides a imperfectly perfect example of this type of situation involving Charlotte’s younger child.

Parents are blanketedly being cast in role if the can’t be trusted category, when at the end of the day they are responsible for them. In some ways you can draw parallels between what’s happening with the overturning of abortion and women’s rights. In this case parents can’t be trusted to do what’s best for their kids.

This is just not true. Teachers just don't want to be in the role of monitoring and reporting. Putting teachers in this role damages the relationships they have with students around so many issues. Kids talk and write about their friendships in class, about things they are worried about etc. If the teacher is perceived as someone who can constantly be tapped for info about their lives, they will just shut up about it. Teachers currently monitor and report abuse/danger/rule-breaking. Adding more to that is a burden and unfair--especially since there is no evidence that using another name is harmful. You might not want your kid to play around with names and pronouns, but in my view you have no right to force others to monitor and report that to you.

Parents need to step up and be involved in their kids' lives, not force others to inform on them.

Sorry, I disagree. I see teachers also being in a difficult position, but when parents are deliberately kept out of the conversations about their own child then they are cast as the bad guys. Even if kids have good relationships with their parents, coming out can be hard. But letting parents be the last to know is not good. There may be other problems at home that could be alleviated if the parents are informed. I’m not saying schools need to do a check every day on every students identity. However, if a student is receiving for example counseling services through school about this or other mental/physical/social issues, the parents need to be informed.

I'm the PP--I agree students that students who receive school counseling on an issue should have their parents informed (though I do understand that this then can be a deterrent to seeking counseling) because they are experiencing the need for support. I'm disagreeing with asking teachers to report things like name changes/social behaviors etc. to parents for kids who have not sought counseling for the issue.

I’m the PP — I think we agree far more than we may disagree.

You do know that when a child sees a therapist, their parents are not informed of the content of those conversations. parents are only informed if there is something they need to be aware of, such as suicidal thoughts. But otherwise, those conversations are confidential.

I am aware, and I’m not 100% on board with that. If my child is having issues, I need to know in order to find support for them and our family. My minor children cannot get piercings or tattoos without parental consent, but they can have medical consultations and procedures done behind my back. It doesn’t make sense.

Moreover, schools are not therapists. No need for hiding info.

Medical procedures are not done without parental consent for minors. What are you talking about? You are literally making up demons and then fighting them.

D&Cs pre-2022 were not medical procedures?