Student walkout

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

When all it takes to gain access to the girls’ locker room is an assertion that one is trans or non-binary, it obviously changes the dynamic in a material way.

Yep. I don’t want trans kids in my daughter’s bathroom.

Not even transgender boys?

Anyone going into the girls bathroom must have a vagina.

So you do support some transgender kids going into her bathroom.

Who is doing this vagina checking? And why are Republicans so obsessed with kids’ genitals? Creepy.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

When all it takes to gain access to the girls’ locker room is an assertion that one is trans or non-binary, it obviously changes the dynamic in a material way.

Yep. I don’t want trans kids in my daughter’s bathroom.

Not even transgender boys?

Anyone going into the girls bathroom must have a vagina.

So you do support some transgender kids going into her bathroom.

Who is doing this vagina checking? And why are Republicans so obsessed with kids’ genitals? Creepy.

Right? I’m 50 years old. I’ve never seen a penis or vagina in a bathroom. In school, don’t think I ever saw either one in the locker rooms either.
We were required to “shower” after HS PE. Those towels were wrapped so tightly around everyone, I have no idea what was underneath.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very low participation at our school. Why don’t parents listen to kids? They aren’t the ones against the Governors policy. If you actually read it, it is a pretty good policy. The kids see that.

I agree.

The kids I know who have actually read Youngkins policy went from being very outraged based of headlines, to "why is everyone so upset over this new policy."

Our school also had very low participation at both the high school and the middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

But that isn’t the whole story — the one student was transferred to another school after the incident was attempted or completed at the previous school. Again probably a one off story, but it did stoke concerns about parents being kept in the dark.

The situation is not as black and white as people want to believe. Imagine going into a parent-teacher type meeting. Maybe teachers only know a student by the student’s new identity and the parents are unaware of this new identity.

The new sex in the city provides a imperfectly perfect example of this type of situation involving Charlotte’s younger child.

Parents are blanketedly being cast in role if the can’t be trusted category, when at the end of the day they are responsible for them. In some ways you can draw parallels between what’s happening with the overturning of abortion and women’s rights. In this case parents can’t be trusted to do what’s best for their kids.

This is just not true. Teachers just don't want to be in the role of monitoring and reporting. Putting teachers in this role damages the relationships they have with students around so many issues. Kids talk and write about their friendships in class, about things they are worried about etc. If the teacher is perceived as someone who can constantly be tapped for info about their lives, they will just shut up about it. Teachers currently monitor and report abuse/danger/rule-breaking. Adding more to that is a burden and unfair--especially since there is no evidence that using another name is harmful. You might not want your kid to play around with names and pronouns, but in my view you have no right to force others to monitor and report that to you.

Parents need to step up and be involved in their kids' lives, not force others to inform on them.

Sorry, I disagree. I see teachers also being in a difficult position, but when parents are deliberately kept out of the conversations about their own child then they are cast as the bad guys. Even if kids have good relationships with their parents, coming out can be hard. But letting parents be the last to know is not good. There may be other problems at home that could be alleviated if the parents are informed. I’m not saying schools need to do a check every day on every students identity. However, if a student is receiving for example counseling services through school about this or other mental/physical/social issues, the parents need to be informed.

I'm the PP--I agree students that students who receive school counseling on an issue should have their parents informed (though I do understand that this then can be a deterrent to seeking counseling) because they are experiencing the need for support. I'm disagreeing with asking teachers to report things like name changes/social behaviors etc. to parents for kids who have not sought counseling for the issue.

I’m the PP — I think we agree far more than we may disagree.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools support kids - 100%.

They don’t exist to help parents talk to their kids.

They are deterring kids from having hard talks with their parents though. That’s a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools support kids - 100%.

They don’t exist to help parents talk to their kids.

They are deterring kids from having hard talks with their parents though. That’s a problem.

There is not a single teacher or school official that tells a kid not to talk to their parents about ANYTHING.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools support kids - 100%.

They don’t exist to help parents talk to their kids.

They are deterring kids from having hard talks with their parents though. That’s a problem.

No, they aren’t. Stop lying.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools support kids - 100%.

They don’t exist to help parents talk to their kids.

They are deterring kids from having hard talks with their parents though. That’s a problem.

There is not a single teacher or school official that tells a kid not to talk to their parents about ANYTHING.

You are in no position to make such a blanket assertion.

It's very obvious that there are teachers in FCPS and other school systems who want students to believe that their views may be more enlightened than those held by their parents (and therefore that schools are a "safe space" where students should be "their real selves,." regardless of how they conduct themselves at home).

It's also very clear that the local Democrats in Virginia have adopted a calculated strategy of turning adolescents into spokespersons on a host of political issues, often feeding them material to disseminate, and then claiming that anyone who disagrees with those positions is "attacking kids."

I won't call this behavior "gro*ming," since that may connote predatory sexual behavior, but it is opportunistic and disrespectful to parents.

[Anonymous]

Let's just get rid of all the bathrooms in all the schools. Students can hold it until they get home. Problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's just get rid of all the bathrooms in all the schools. Students can hold it until they get home. Problem solved.

Diapers for students!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Schools support kids - 100%.

They don’t exist to help parents talk to their kids.

They are deterring kids from having hard talks with their parents though. That’s a problem.

There is not a single teacher or school official that tells a kid not to talk to their parents about ANYTHING.

You are in no position to make such a blanket assertion.

It's very obvious that there are teachers in FCPS and other school systems who want students to believe that their views may be more enlightened than those held by their parents (and therefore that schools are a "safe space" where students should be "their real selves,." regardless of how they conduct themselves at home).

It's also very clear that the local Democrats in Virginia have adopted a calculated strategy of turning adolescents into spokespersons on a host of political issues, often feeding them material to disseminate, and then claiming that anyone who disagrees with those positions is "attacking kids."

I won't call this behavior "gro*ming," since that may connote predatory sexual behavior, but it is opportunistic and disrespectful to parents.

I'm sorry that the younger generations aren't buying your antiquated, bigoted views, but that's not the teachers' fault. Nor is it the Democrats', tbh.

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Anonymous wrote:Very low participation at our school. Why don’t parents listen to kids? They aren’t the ones against the Governors policy. If you actually read it, it is a pretty good policy. The kids see that.

Alternative position based on our school and talking to my child: low participation because the kids largely did not know about it. Between school, sports, homecoming, etc. the kids are not reading newspapers and watching the news. They are busy. Lots and lots did not know about it. That's not the same as "they aren't the ones against the Governor's policy."

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Does the fact that all this special treatment is because of a disability being trans matter? Do kids get 504 plans if they are trans? How does the label as a disability affect the guidelines and laws?

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Anonymous wrote:Fcps is still pushing the anti women trans agenda even after the well published assault and rape that happened in Loudoun county because of the same policy. This is undoubtedly organized by one political party with an activist school board using students as pawns. The FCPS Sb does not care about the children but only their agenda.

It’s not anti-woman. It’s just ALL women. Being inclusive isn’t a bad thing.

Thinking things you are not does not make it so. The old policy was inclusive as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools support kids - 100%.

They don’t exist to help parents talk to their kids.

They are deterring kids from having hard talks with their parents though. That’s a problem.

There is not a single teacher or school official that tells a kid not to talk to their parents about ANYTHING.

You are in no position to make such a blanket assertion.

It's very obvious that there are teachers in FCPS and other school systems who want students to believe that their views may be more enlightened than those held by their parents (and therefore that schools are a "safe space" where students should be "their real selves,." regardless of how they conduct themselves at home).

It's also very clear that the local Democrats in Virginia have adopted a calculated strategy of turning adolescents into spokespersons on a host of political issues, often feeding them material to disseminate, and then claiming that anyone who disagrees with those positions is "attacking kids."

I won't call this behavior "gro*ming," since that may connote predatory sexual behavior, but it is opportunistic and disrespectful to parents.

I'm sorry that the younger generations aren't buying your antiquated, bigoted views, but that's not the teachers' fault. Nor is it the Democrats', tbh.

How do you know this? Area high schools tend to have enrollments between 1600 and 3000 kids. If 50-200 kids participate in a walk-out, whether to support a cause or just to get some fresh air, it says little about the views of the remaining 1400-2950 kids at a school.

Once again, you engage in over-generalizations to fit your preferred political narrative.