Student walkout

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Under his policy, parents cannot authorize the use of a different name or pronoun. They need to provide legal documents. Why do Republicans want the state to control everyone? Why did Youngkin say kids belong to their parents? Kids are not property. They have a right to have their own feelings especially when so many trans kids are rejected by their parents. Schools should be safe places for all kids. And what happened to limited government and local control? Fairfax voters did not vote for Youngkin - he lost by a lot here. Let localities decide.


How does this work? For example, if Robert wants to go by “Junior” or “JR” because that’s his nickname at home but not his birth name, his parents have to change it legally?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Under his policy, parents cannot authorize the use of a different name or pronoun. They need to provide legal documents. Why do Republicans want the state to control everyone? Why did Youngkin say kids belong to their parents? Kids are not property. They have a right to have their own feelings especially when so many trans kids are rejected by their parents. Schools should be safe places for all kids. And what happened to limited government and local control? Fairfax voters did not vote for Youngkin - he lost by a lot here. Let localities decide.


How does this work? For example, if Robert wants to go by “Junior” or “JR” because that’s his nickname at home but not his birth name, his parents have to change it legally?



Not really cause it’s still a boy name.
But if he wanted to be called Roberta or something else then yes
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Under his policy, parents cannot authorize the use of a different name or pronoun. They need to provide legal documents. Why do Republicans want the state to control everyone? Why did Youngkin say kids belong to their parents? Kids are not property. They have a right to have their own feelings especially when so many trans kids are rejected by their parents. Schools should be safe places for all kids. And what happened to limited government and local control? Fairfax voters did not vote for Youngkin - he lost by a lot here. Let localities decide.


How does this work? For example, if Robert wants to go by “Junior” or “JR” because that’s his nickname at home but not his birth name, his parents have to change it legally?



Not really cause it’s still a boy name.
But if he wanted to be called Roberta or something else then yes


So someone is going to determine what is a boy’s name vs a girl’s name. You won’t have to provide legal documentation to go by a completely different name that is determined to be of your gender.

Is that correct?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Not lots. That’s a fringe perspective.


No it’s not feint just because you don’t agree with it. Also, did the “fringe” get Youngkin elected?


The majority got Youngkin elected.

I voted for Youngkin because I reject Terry McAuliffe’s school policy, exemplified by:

“I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.”

His view is so offensive! As a parent, I do care what schools are teaching my children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Under his policy, parents cannot authorize the use of a different name or pronoun. They need to provide legal documents. Why do Republicans want the state to control everyone? Why did Youngkin say kids belong to their parents? Kids are not property. They have a right to have their own feelings especially when so many trans kids are rejected by their parents. Schools should be safe places for all kids. And what happened to limited government and local control? Fairfax voters did not vote for Youngkin - he lost by a lot here. Let localities decide.


How does this work? For example, if Robert wants to go by “Junior” or “JR” because that’s his nickname at home but not his birth name, his parents have to change it legally?



Not really cause it’s still a boy name.
But if he wanted to be called Roberta or something else then yes


So someone is going to determine what is a boy’s name vs a girl’s name. You won’t have to provide legal documentation to go by a completely different name that is determined to be of your gender.

Is that correct?


And what if you are cis gender female named Charlotte but your nickname has always been Charlie? Are you now not allowed to be called Charlie b/c that's a "boys name" and you are a girl??

Who is making the determinations? So in one class the teacher is like - hey, you can be Charlie here but another teacher can be noooo - you must be Charlotte? Or does the school admin decide? Or the county? Or the STATE?!

How do parents even provide legal documents on a nickname?? Is that a thing?

It's more common for boys to go by initials -- like TJ. But what about like the girl on Full House -- DJ? Would she be allowed to be called DJ (real character's name Donna Jo Margaret Tanner) or would she had to be called Donna Jo?

Why can't we just call a kid whatever they want to be called?? Heck my brother went through a phase where he wanted to be called Peter Parker.... really, was there any harm in that (well, unless he started trying to climb the classroom walls...)!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Not lots. That’s a fringe perspective.


No it’s not feint just because you don’t agree with it. Also, did the “fringe” get Youngkin elected?


The majority got Youngkin elected.

I voted for Youngkin because I reject Terry McAuliffe’s school policy, exemplified by:

“I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.”

His view is so offensive! As a parent, I do care what schools are teaching my children.


The majority of Fairfax voters rejected Youngkin. I do not want him deciding what my kids learn and experience in schools. I trust educators and didn’t fall for the lie that I have no visibility or role in our schools.
Anonymous
The policy is an abomination. That being said, a walkout is not going to do anything to change it. I understand why the kids want to do it, but it'll be futile.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They are planning a massive day of auction on
Tuesday, September 27th when students will walkout to reject Youngkin new policy


What time of day?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately our predominantly Hispanic and Muslim school is very much anti LGBTQ. Wish some kids there would walk out.


What are you really trying to say? Use your words.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are planning a massive day of auction on
Tuesday, September 27th when students will walkout to reject Youngkin new policy


What time of day?


Is it the entire day?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Not lots. That’s a fringe perspective.


No it’s not feint just because you don’t agree with it. Also, did the “fringe” get Youngkin elected?


The majority got Youngkin elected.

I voted for Youngkin because I reject Terry McAuliffe’s school policy, exemplified by:

“I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.”

His view is so offensive! As a parent, I do care what schools are teaching my children.


McAullife was right
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They are planning a massive day of auction on
Tuesday, September 27th when students will walkout to reject Youngkin new policy


I'll tell my kids to stay in class regardless of how "massive" the walkout is. Let the the losers and whiners have their moment, but stay far away from this crowd.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Under his policy, parents cannot authorize the use of a different name or pronoun. They need to provide legal documents. Why do Republicans want the state to control everyone? Why did Youngkin say kids belong to their parents? Kids are not property. They have a right to have their own feelings especially when so many trans kids are rejected by their parents. Schools should be safe places for all kids. And what happened to limited government and local control? Fairfax voters did not vote for Youngkin - he lost by a lot here. Let localities decide.


I am not fully understanding the proposed model. Under the sections where it says pronouns and names are to be the legal names and sex, there is another section that says the child can be referred to by their preferred pronoun and name if they or their parent provides the request in writing. It’s still BS, but it seems like as long as you, the child, uses the language from the paragraph you could print out a letter and give it to the school. Is the concern about it going in the permanent record?

“4. Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraphs (2) and (3) of this section, [School Division] personnel shall refer to a student by a name other than one in the student’s official record, or by pronouns other than those appropriate to the sex appearing in the student’s official record, only if an eligible student or a student’s parent has instructed [School Division] in writing that such other name or other pronouns be used because of the student’s persistent and sincere belief that the student’s gender differs from his or her sex.”
Anonymous
And really, the old policy was not about hiding from parents. If you have read it and work in education you can see that it’s about protecting kids from parents who would kick them out of the house, beat them, etc. if they found out their kid was LGBTQ+. As a teacher I have had parents do awful things to their kids and as a Christian I know people who have told their kids they can’t live at home it they are gay. It’s about having a safe space and working with the students towards a place where they can eventually share this information with their parents but without being homeless or beaten.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of people who actually agree with the policy. Schools should never keep information about kids from parents.


Not lots. That’s a fringe perspective.


No it’s not feint just because you don’t agree with it. Also, did the “fringe” get Youngkin elected?


The majority got Youngkin elected.

I voted for Youngkin because I reject Terry McAuliffe’s school policy, exemplified by:

“I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.”

His view is so offensive! As a parent, I do care what schools are teaching my children.


Then you should go private or homeschool. Public school is not here to cater to your individual preferences.
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