Is your MSer learning the 13 Guiding Principles of BLM?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve read quite a bit of this thread and want to clarify one thing. BLM is not a political organization. It is a social activisism. The 13 principles State except everybody for who they are. Everybody has value

https://sites.education.miami.edu/crecer/wp-content/uploads/sites/22/2020/06/13-Principles-for-Elementary.pdf

Yes. can you imagine not agreeing with those principles.

Well, one of them is about dismantling the nuclear family. How do you feel about that?

Do I think the government should deny the label of family to a family when their father dies at war? I ABSOLUTELY disagree with the GOP definition of nuclear family that does not include widows. Not only do I disagree with it... I think it’s godless and a sin.

Also.... pssst <whisper> that’s not 1 of the 13 guiding principles.

Yes it absolutely is. You read the kid-friendly version of the principles.

https://www.dcareaeducators4socialjustice.org/black-lives-matter/13-guiding-principles

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that schools are teaching this is ridiculous. As a black parent, if I want my kids to learn about political activism in school I want them to learn about the difference between MLK, Fredrick Douglas, W.E.B, Carver, Eldridge Cleaver, Rosa Parks, Mary Bethune...I want them to learn about the "HUMANITIES". Each of those EDUCATED individuals contributed more to American history then BLM has.

It shouldn’t be either or. Your kids go to a school that don’t teach all those things? Wow! Are you in Mississippi?

Wow, you're dense. And rude.

I’m dense? You send your kids to a school that doesn’t teach MLK, Frederick Douglas, etc

You don’t want your kids to learn this ... https://sites.education.miami.edu/crecer/wp-content/uploads/sites/22/2020/06/13-Principles-for-Elementary.pdf

You're blind too. I never said my children attended an institution where that wasn't covered. Lord help you, your family tree is one straight line isn't it.

You don’t want them to learn empathy, loving engaging, globalism, queer affirmation, collective values, etc so yes that is dense.

Psst .... <whisper> that is Humanities

WTF? You have no clue what the Humanities are.

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Anonymous wrote:You can rant at the internet all day but times are a changing folks. I posted earlier about teaching kinder students about the BLM principles and yes, we do teach them about "homosexuality and transgender" - because we have all sorts of diverse books in our class. Why wouldn't we feature books with diverse family structures? Or use wonderful books like this one to affirm all students?

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Teddy-gentle-gender-friendship/dp/1681192101

Guess what? The idea is to teach the children well so that they don't grow up to be like...you. (If "you" are one of the people posting racist/homophobic things on this website)

Thanks, but I'm responsible for my children develop thought in these areas, not you, and not the school.

Well as an ordinary member of society I’m glad the school is stepping up because I don’t trust you to do it.

Well, they are my children, so I have the final say. And if you think I trust people like you to do it, you're out of your mind.

You really don’t have the final say if you put your kid in a public school. You can’t shield their delicate ears from hearing about some political ideologies, just like you can’t shield them from learning about multiplication.

Not that I owe you an explanation, but - I am very in touch with my kids' teachers. If this topic comes up as some sort of a presentation, my kids are excused and do not attend. I think my kids' teachers actually agree with me and are very responsive to requests to keep me informed.

You sound like you are bending over backward to keep your kids uninformed. But yay for your kids’ teachers being supportive of that.

Also my daughter says she learned about the existence of transgender people from a book at the library. I promise, you cannot shield your kid from things you disagree with.

How do you “disagree” with transgendered people, anyway? They exist. That’s like saying you disagree that George Washington was the first president of the USA (inaugurated on this date, as a matter of fact).

There is a huge difference between knowing that trans people exist and that they should be treated kindly, and "affirming" and celebrating their mental illness. Do we affirm and celebrate anorexia? Similar dysphoria. Yes, you can scream all you want, but basically the mental health professions have been bullied into this, when everyone knows that trans people are seriously troubled. It is an emperor's new clothes story.

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Anonymous wrote:SO what exactly here is so objectionable?
https://www.dcareaeducators4socialjustice.org/black-lives-matter/13-guiding-principles

The first five principles and number eight are fine. The rest are subject to interpretation.

11. Black Villages: We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement.....

I accept families that may have their own unique family structure but that does not mean I want to actively try to disrupt the traditional nuclear family structure. I happen to think children are best served with two parents that love them (I don't care whether it is man/woman, 2 women, 2 men). Single parenthood sometimes happen and no one should be punished for it, but it is not the ideal situation in which to raise kids. It creates hardship for parents and kids.

BLM ought to be promoting the notion of the nuclear family instead of shooting it down. They also should also be promoting the idea that Black on Black violence needs to end if they really believe that Black Lives Matter. That is one of the biggest problems in the Black community and it hasn’t been acknowledged.

+1. It is an undeniable fact that the demise of the nuclear family- especially the presence of dad in the home- has destroyed the Black community more than so-called racism ever could.

Enslavement destroyed the Black nuclear family back in the 1600s. What do you think was behind enslavement?

Take a look at data on the black family in the decades after slavery was abolished. Thomas Sowell is a good source.

Also this... Nearly a hundred years of the supposed “legacy of slavery” found most black children [78%] being raised in two-parent families in 1960. But thirty years after the liberal welfare state found the great majority of black children being raised by a single parent [66%]. (now even higher)

The real breakdown in the black family was due to well-intentioned, but misguided welfare policies AND the crack cocaine epidemic in the 80s.

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Anonymous wrote:SO what exactly here is so objectionable?
https://www.dcareaeducators4socialjustice.org/black-lives-matter/13-guiding-principles

The first five principles and number eight are fine. The rest are subject to interpretation.

11. Black Villages: We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement.....

I accept families that may have their own unique family structure but that does not mean I want to actively try to disrupt the traditional nuclear family structure. I happen to think children are best served with two parents that love them (I don't care whether it is man/woman, 2 women, 2 men). Single parenthood sometimes happen and no one should be punished for it, but it is not the ideal situation in which to raise kids. It creates hardship for parents and kids.

BLM ought to be promoting the notion of the nuclear family instead of shooting it down. They also should also be promoting the idea that Black on Black violence needs to end if they really believe that Black Lives Matter. That is one of the biggest problems in the Black community and it hasn’t been acknowledged.

+1. It is an undeniable fact that the demise of the nuclear family- especially the presence of dad in the home- has destroyed the Black community more than so-called racism ever could.

Enslavement destroyed the Black nuclear family back in the 1600s. What do you think was behind enslavement?

Take a look at data on the black family in the decades after slavery was abolished. Thomas Sowell is a good source.

Also this... Nearly a hundred years of the supposed “legacy of slavery” found most black children [78%] being raised in two-parent families in 1960. But thirty years after the liberal welfare state found the great majority of black children being raised by a single parent [66%]. (now even higher)

The real breakdown in the black family was due to well-intentioned, but misguided welfare policies AND the crack cocaine epidemic in the 80s.

Yep. People are so damn ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not justifying slavery at all.....but West Africans sold their own kind for money too.
And since we’re on a history lesson....the Portuguese enslaved more blacks in Brazil than the British brought to the US.

NP. But to say that blacks haven’t been able to build a Family since the 1600s is a gross misrepresentation of history, and negates a generation of blacks from the mid 1800s and onward.

It didn't stop in the 1800s. Generations of Black men were incarcerated, breaking up that nuclear family, and leaving employment options minimal. This still happens in many parts of the US.

Learn the data, because it doesn't support your narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:You can rant at the internet all day but times are a changing folks. I posted earlier about teaching kinder students about the BLM principles and yes, we do teach them about "homosexuality and transgender" - because we have all sorts of diverse books in our class. Why wouldn't we feature books with diverse family structures? Or use wonderful books like this one to affirm all students?

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Teddy-gentle-gender-friendship/dp/1681192101

Guess what? The idea is to teach the children well so that they don't grow up to be like...you. (If "you" are one of the people posting racist/homophobic things on this website)

Thanks, but I'm responsible for my children develop thought in these areas, not you, and not the school.

Well as an ordinary member of society I’m glad the school is stepping up because I don’t trust you to do it.

Well, they are my children, so I have the final say. And if you think I trust people like you to do it, you're out of your mind.

You really don’t have the final say if you put your kid in a public school. You can’t shield their delicate ears from hearing about some political ideologies, just like you can’t shield them from learning about multiplication.

Not that I owe you an explanation, but - I am very in touch with my kids' teachers. If this topic comes up as some sort of a presentation, my kids are excused and do not attend. I think my kids' teachers actually agree with me and are very responsive to requests to keep me informed.

You sound like you are bending over backward to keep your kids uninformed. But yay for your kids’ teachers being supportive of that.

Also my daughter says she learned about the existence of transgender people from a book at the library. I promise, you cannot shield your kid from things you disagree with.

How do you “disagree” with transgendered people, anyway? They exist. That’s like saying you disagree that George Washington was the first president of the USA (inaugurated on this date, as a matter of fact).

There is a huge difference between knowing that trans people exist and that they should be treated kindly, and "affirming" and celebrating their mental illness. Do we affirm and celebrate anorexia? Similar dysphoria. Yes, you can scream all you want, but basically the mental health professions have been bullied into this, when everyone knows that trans people are seriously troubled. It is an emperor's new clothes story.

I feel really sorry for you. You are just so uneducated and seemingly proud of this fact.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve read quite a bit of this thread and want to clarify one thing. BLM is not a political organization. It is a social activisism. The 13 principles State except everybody for who they are. Everybody has value

https://sites.education.miami.edu/crecer/wp-content/uploads/sites/22/2020/06/13-Principles-for-Elementary.pdf

Yes. can you imagine not agreeing with those principles.

Well, one of them is about dismantling the nuclear family. How do you feel about that?

Do I think the government should deny the label of family to a family when their father dies at war? I ABSOLUTELY disagree with the GOP definition of nuclear family that does not include widows. Not only do I disagree with it... I think it’s godless and a sin.

Also.... pssst <whisper> that’s not 1 of the 13 guiding principles.

You keep bringing this up, but you are delusional. Republicans are the ones most likely to donate money to charitable causes, etc. to support widows. No one is trying to take benefits from widows. But children who have two parents are more likely to have better mental health, achieve academically, escape poverty, less likely to be addicted, etc. So society should promote two parent families, for the benefit of children.

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Anonymous wrote:This one is interesting!

11. Black Villages
We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, and especially “our” children to the degree that mothers, parents and children are comfortable.

2/3 of black babies are born to single mothers, so it makes sense that they want society to stop operating with 2-parent households in mind. That's a crazy notion because single parenthood is a 1-way ticket to being poor. But this is why they want to decenter the nuclear family.

11M white peoples are widowed (2M for black people)
19M white people divorced (4M for black people)

So this is significantly more a white peoples problem

Funny how that's not how you interpret statistics when discussing police shootings.

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Anonymous wrote:SO what exactly here is so objectionable?
https://www.dcareaeducators4socialjustice.org/black-lives-matter/13-guiding-principles

The first five principles and number eight are fine. The rest are subject to interpretation.

11. Black Villages: We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement.....

I accept families that may have their own unique family structure but that does not mean I want to actively try to disrupt the traditional nuclear family structure. I happen to think children are best served with two parents that love them (I don't care whether it is man/woman, 2 women, 2 men). Single parenthood sometimes happen and no one should be punished for it, but it is not the ideal situation in which to raise kids. It creates hardship for parents and kids.

BLM ought to be promoting the notion of the nuclear family instead of shooting it down. They also should also be promoting the idea that Black on Black violence needs to end if they really believe that Black Lives Matter. That is one of the biggest problems in the Black community and it hasn’t been acknowledged.

+1. It is an undeniable fact that the demise of the nuclear family- especially the presence of dad in the home- has destroyed the Black community more than so-called racism ever could.

I am extremely impressed that you managed to cram so many inaccurate ideas into a single sentence.

So the 72% black single motherhood rate is good for the black community?

How are white people to blame for that?

Jim Crow?

So the actual people who lived during Jim Crow managed to get married and raise their kids, but their grandchildren couldn't?

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Anonymous wrote:A garbage fire of a thread started, no doubt, by our resident McWhorter-quoter.

This thread was started because Wood MS deemed it appropriate to spend an hour, teaching kids an entire lesson on BLM today.

Meanwhile, at all MSs, our kids’ Math classes are skipping over material, because there is ‘not enough time’ to teach the entire year’s curriculum.

Strange school system, this is.

You want them to stop teaching Social Studies in middle school?

That isn't social studies. Would you like them to do an equal lesson on the KKK?

NP. BLM isn't a hate group classified as a terrorist organization, an hour is nothing and no one here has the first clue about what CRT is.

I'm actually disturbed we are just accepting the premise. I don't know what was actually taught where and think it's very likely the OP is simply stirring the pot.

There are several people here who are experts on CRT. We've had to do this to counter racist woke insanity.

Everything Kendi says/writes is CRT. And so is this from someone in the MCPS equity division: https://twitter.com/marya_hay/status/1230546821346471939?s=20 Sowing the seeds of hate. Disgusting.

You keep posting this Twitter link as if there's something wrong with it, but I don't understand why? Are you one of those people who want to pretend that society isn't biased towards white people against people of color, and so you think pointing that out is somehow "racist"?

I’m not that poster, but you realize what they’re describing is sort of a twisted version of how the KKK sees “whiteness” right? It’s so far from a mainstream view that it’s not even funny.

What do you mean? Whiteness is a made-up concept that was created in order define certain people as white and therefore superior to people of color, right? And that's what they're basically saying on the flipcharts, right? Or what do you think "whiteness" is?

And the next step is to define all this things that are whiteness and do away with them. This list perhaps. https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/926/d5f/a334baf0d43cd480b3ea93582d7e80f8dc-white-culture.2x.w710.jpg

Hmmm... I support the things on that list.

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Anonymous wrote:You can rant at the internet all day but times are a changing folks. I posted earlier about teaching kinder students about the BLM principles and yes, we do teach them about "homosexuality and transgender" - because we have all sorts of diverse books in our class. Why wouldn't we feature books with diverse family structures? Or use wonderful books like this one to affirm all students?

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Teddy-gentle-gender-friendship/dp/1681192101

Guess what? The idea is to teach the children well so that they don't grow up to be like...you. (If "you" are one of the people posting racist/homophobic things on this website)

Thanks, but I'm responsible for my children develop thought in these areas, not you, and not the school.

Well as an ordinary member of society I’m glad the school is stepping up because I don’t trust you to do it.

Well, they are my children, so I have the final say. And if you think I trust people like you to do it, you're out of your mind.

You really don’t have the final say if you put your kid in a public school. You can’t shield their delicate ears from hearing about some political ideologies, just like you can’t shield them from learning about multiplication.

Not that I owe you an explanation, but - I am very in touch with my kids' teachers. If this topic comes up as some sort of a presentation, my kids are excused and do not attend. I think my kids' teachers actually agree with me and are very responsive to requests to keep me informed.

You sound like you are bending over backward to keep your kids uninformed. But yay for your kids’ teachers being supportive of that.

Also my daughter says she learned about the existence of transgender people from a book at the library. I promise, you cannot shield your kid from things you disagree with.

How do you “disagree” with transgendered people, anyway? They exist. That’s like saying you disagree that George Washington was the first president of the USA (inaugurated on this date, as a matter of fact).

There is a huge difference between knowing that trans people exist and that they should be treated kindly, and "affirming" and celebrating their mental illness. Do we affirm and celebrate anorexia? Similar dysphoria. Yes, you can scream all you want, but basically the mental health professions have been bullied into this, when everyone knows that trans people are seriously troubled. It is an emperor's new clothes story.

I feel really sorry for you. You are just so uneducated and seemingly proud of this fact.

Sorry, no, just part of the mental health community who has been around long enough to watch the meltdown.

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Anonymous wrote:You can rant at the internet all day but times are a changing folks. I posted earlier about teaching kinder students about the BLM principles and yes, we do teach them about "homosexuality and transgender" - because we have all sorts of diverse books in our class. Why wouldn't we feature books with diverse family structures? Or use wonderful books like this one to affirm all students?

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Teddy-gentle-gender-friendship/dp/1681192101

Guess what? The idea is to teach the children well so that they don't grow up to be like...you. (If "you" are one of the people posting racist/homophobic things on this website)

Thanks, but I'm responsible for my children develop thought in these areas, not you, and not the school.

Well as an ordinary member of society I’m glad the school is stepping up because I don’t trust you to do it.

Well, they are my children, so I have the final say. And if you think I trust people like you to do it, you're out of your mind.

You really don’t have the final say if you put your kid in a public school. You can’t shield their delicate ears from hearing about some political ideologies, just like you can’t shield them from learning about multiplication.

Not that I owe you an explanation, but - I am very in touch with my kids' teachers. If this topic comes up as some sort of a presentation, my kids are excused and do not attend. I think my kids' teachers actually agree with me and are very responsive to requests to keep me informed.

You sound like you are bending over backward to keep your kids uninformed. But yay for your kids’ teachers being supportive of that.

Also my daughter says she learned about the existence of transgender people from a book at the library. I promise, you cannot shield your kid from things you disagree with.

How do you “disagree” with transgendered people, anyway? They exist. That’s like saying you disagree that George Washington was the first president of the USA (inaugurated on this date, as a matter of fact).

There is a huge difference between knowing that trans people exist and that they should be treated kindly, and "affirming" and celebrating their mental illness. Do we affirm and celebrate anorexia? Similar dysphoria. Yes, you can scream all you want, but basically the mental health professions have been bullied into this, when everyone knows that trans people are seriously troubled. It is an emperor's new clothes story.

I feel really sorry for you. You are just so uneducated and seemingly proud of this fact.

Sorry, no, just part of the mental health community who has been around long enough to watch the meltdown.

Mental health education evolves as more is learned. Just like modern medicine. You haven’t evolved. You are stuck in the past and therefore, uneducated. If you were a surgeon before heart transplants were around and refused to educate yourself
about modern health, you’d be saying heart transplants aren’t real because they aren’t possible. Grow up. Furthermore, if you’re someone in the mental health community who sees patients, you should absolutely lose your license to do so.

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So the actual people who lived during Jim Crow managed to get married and raise their kids, but their grandchildren couldn't?

Yep. The white people who lived during Jim Crow had children while married at much higher rates than their white grandchildren. Go figure.

On the bright side, teen birthrates are way, way down since the 1950s, for all groups of women, including white women.

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Anonymous wrote:You can rant at the internet all day but times are a changing folks. I posted earlier about teaching kinder students about the BLM principles and yes, we do teach them about "homosexuality and transgender" - because we have all sorts of diverse books in our class. Why wouldn't we feature books with diverse family structures? Or use wonderful books like this one to affirm all students?

https://www.amazon.com/Introducing-Teddy-gentle-gender-friendship/dp/1681192101

Guess what? The idea is to teach the children well so that they don't grow up to be like...you. (If "you" are one of the people posting racist/homophobic things on this website)

Thanks, but I'm responsible for my children develop thought in these areas, not you, and not the school.

Well as an ordinary member of society I’m glad the school is stepping up because I don’t trust you to do it.

Well, they are my children, so I have the final say. And if you think I trust people like you to do it, you're out of your mind.

You really don’t have the final say if you put your kid in a public school. You can’t shield their delicate ears from hearing about some political ideologies, just like you can’t shield them from learning about multiplication.

Not that I owe you an explanation, but - I am very in touch with my kids' teachers. If this topic comes up as some sort of a presentation, my kids are excused and do not attend. I think my kids' teachers actually agree with me and are very responsive to requests to keep me informed.

You sound like you are bending over backward to keep your kids uninformed. But yay for your kids’ teachers being supportive of that.

Also my daughter says she learned about the existence of transgender people from a book at the library. I promise, you cannot shield your kid from things you disagree with.

How do you “disagree” with transgendered people, anyway? They exist. That’s like saying you disagree that George Washington was the first president of the USA (inaugurated on this date, as a matter of fact).

There is a huge difference between knowing that trans people exist and that they should be treated kindly, and "affirming" and celebrating their mental illness. Do we affirm and celebrate anorexia? Similar dysphoria. Yes, you can scream all you want, but basically the mental health professions have been bullied into this, when everyone knows that trans people are seriously troubled. It is an emperor's new clothes story.

I feel really sorry for you. You are just so uneducated and seemingly proud of this fact.

Sorry, no, just part of the mental health community who has been around long enough to watch the meltdown.

Yes, it is time to acknowledge anorexia and stop the body shamming. That absolutely should be taught.