Girls, 13 and 15, Charged With Murder After Armed Carjacking Near Nationals Park

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, the GoFundMe for Mr. Anwar has gone viral and has way exceeded the $100,000 goal originally set. The total was at around $380,000 when I donated this morning and already it has jumped to over $400,000. I hope the funds raised ensure this family will never have to worry about money again. It won't bring him back, but it will replace his lost wages (apparently he was the family breadwinner) and then some.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace


It’s getting a lot of run in conservative social media because of the perpetrators and CNN’s botched description - there’s quite a bit of red hat money pouring in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, the GoFundMe for Mr. Anwar has gone viral and has way exceeded the $100,000 goal originally set. The total was at around $380,000 when I donated this morning and already it has jumped to over $400,000. I hope the funds raised ensure this family will never have to worry about money again. It won't bring him back, but it will replace his lost wages (apparently he was the family breadwinner) and then some.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace


The original goal was actually 30k. If they need to send his body to Pakistan, it should help significantly + lost wages, but obviously no price can be set for what the girls did.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, the GoFundMe for Mr. Anwar has gone viral and has way exceeded the $100,000 goal originally set. The total was at around $380,000 when I donated this morning and already it has jumped to over $400,000. I hope the funds raised ensure this family will never have to worry about money again. It won't bring him back, but it will replace his lost wages (apparently he was the family breadwinner) and then some.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace


It’s getting a lot of run in conservative social media because of the perpetrators and CNN’s botched description - there’s quite a bit of red hat money pouring in.


What does “red hat money” mean PP? I have not heard that term before.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!

They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!

But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.


But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents. I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, the GoFundMe for Mr. Anwar has gone viral and has way exceeded the $100,000 goal originally set. The total was at around $380,000 when I donated this morning and already it has jumped to over $400,000. I hope the funds raised ensure this family will never have to worry about money again. It won't bring him back, but it will replace his lost wages (apparently he was the family breadwinner) and then some.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-anwars-find-peace


It’s getting a lot of run in conservative social media because of the perpetrators and CNN’s botched description - there’s quite a bit of red hat money pouring in.


Most of the contributors actually seem to have South Asian and Muslim names.

Please don't politicize this. One can support BLM, be a liberal, and hope that these girls (and others like them) never see the light of day again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!

They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!

But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.


But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents.
I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]


So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!

They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!

But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.


But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents.
I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]


So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.


PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!

They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!

But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.


But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents.
I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]


So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.


PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.


They are a conservative trying to get you to say this is a hate crime against an elderly man even though most conservatives refuse to acknowledge the Atlanta shootings as a hate crime. I guess they figured they can't sell it as a hate crime against a South Asian so they are trying for an 'ageist' hate crime.

Seniors are often targeted for crimes, especially fraud but it's never been prosecuted as a federal hate crime.
Anonymous
This is pretty clearly second degree murder; it’s not a felony murder scenario, and it’s not vehicular manslaughter. It’s depraved indifference to great risk to human life. It also doesn’t matter what they are charged with, my understanding of DC law is that no material prison sentences are possible given their ages. They will be out by their mid-20s, if that, because they can be “rehabilitated.” I certainly hope that is not the case, but fear it is.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!

They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!

But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.


But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents.
I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]


So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.


PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.


I agree they planned a carjacking. I don’t think they planned a death.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!

They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!

But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.


But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents.
I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]


So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.


PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.


I agree they planned a carjacking. I don’t think they planned a death.


PP here. Okay. I can agree with that, but I do think there's more here in that their behavior was callous and showed no regard for another person's suffering. Very disturbing behavior.
Anonymous
Have anyone heard from the teen girls family or community? I’m curious what they think.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Have anyone heard from the teen girls family or community? I’m curious what they think.


Their names have not been released and their family would be foolish to publicly come forward. No one in their community, including their classmates, needs to speak out for them either.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!

They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!

But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.


But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents.
I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]


So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.


PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.


I agree they planned a carjacking. I don’t think they planned a death.


PP here. Okay. I can agree with that, but I do think there's more here in that their behavior was callous and showed no regard for another person's suffering. Very disturbing behavior.


I agree. And even more shocking that they are 1) girls and 2) so young.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is seriously sad. A 13 or 15yo is so Immature. They do not think!!! They had the short sighted goal of having fun with bragging rights of stealing a car, and a man was MURDERED for their foolishness!

They definitely should be punished! Problem is, even as a felony Manslaughter they will not get more than 30 years. And after those 30 years they will still have half a life left and still be of child bearing age, and because of their circumstances be associated with other felons.... as friends, family, etc. Having been incarcerated over the previous 30 years, including their formative early adult years, they would likely not be prepared (or able) to be good parents to their likely delinquent offspring. And the cycle continues!

But , if we let them “off” with lighter sentence, the result won’t be much better.


But they DID think. They thought to get a taser weapon. They heard an older gentleman and saw him hanging onto the car. That's not the same as a true accident or a teen being impulsive or over correcting when driving on the hwy. I've worked with a lot of kids from impoverished backgrounds and drug or alcohol addicted parents.
I do not think the behavior of these teens represents just "not thinking." [b]


So what do you think the behavior represents? Please say the quiet part out loud.


PP here. Not sure what you want me to say. I think their behavior shows they planned a carjacking.


I agree they planned a carjacking. I don’t think they planned a death.


PP here. Okay. I can agree with that, but I do think there's more here in that their behavior was callous and showed no regard for another person's suffering. Very disturbing behavior.


I agree. And even more shocking that they are 1) girls and 2) so young.


you have obviously not been on the Metro when school let out for the day...
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