John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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Transwoman and trans rights advocate Brianna Wu asks Oliver to sit down:

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Anonymous wrote:The ACLU is now “the dems?”

Once again, I’d like to remind everyone that only the Supreme Court can clarify the Bostock decision. Gorsuch expanded the definition of “sex discrimination.”

You think the ACLU is on the side of the Republicans?

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/american-civil-liberties-union/recipients?id=D000031473

ACLU defended Rush Limbaugh.

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Anonymous wrote:The ACLU is now “the dems?”

Once again, I’d like to remind everyone that only the Supreme Court can clarify the Bostock decision. Gorsuch expanded the definition of “sex discrimination.”

The ACLU is indeed partisan now. What I just said used to be a false statement pushed by the GOP. But instead of pushing back they leaned into it under new leadership. Look at their recent positions yourself if you don't believe me.

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Anonymous wrote:The ACLU is now “the dems?”

Once again, I’d like to remind everyone that only the Supreme Court can clarify the Bostock decision. Gorsuch expanded the definition of “sex discrimination.”

You think the ACLU is on the side of the Republicans?

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/american-civil-liberties-union/recipients?id=D000031473

ACLU defended Rush Limbaugh.

That was back in 2004, when the ACLU had a clear moral compass and guiding principles. The current ACLU is just a far left advocacy organization that has lost all interest in defending free speech.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.

Everyone knows that trans nonsense is being pushed by Democrats, not Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

You can care about two things at once. Try it some time. Can you link to where the left demonized women who were victimized in prison by a trans prisoner? I’d like to see it.

OMG do you know nothing about the ACLU’s intervention in law suits raised by female prisoners concerning their safety?

Read how the ACLU talks about the women prisoners concerned about their safety or who have experienced violence. Read about how women who raised safety concerns were put in solitary confinement. Read about how California has treated the women prisoners who have been harmed.

Educate yourself. And no, I’m not linking to the docket for you. There are too many links, and some are court filings. You should do your own damn homework anyhow.

I googled. Only found instances of trans people being put in solitary confinement, not those who raised safety concerns.

I did find an instance of a transwoman who raped a woman in Cali -https://www.foxnews.com/us/third-strike-trans-rape-suspect-prompts-rebellion-against-ca-law-after-attack-womens-prison

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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats move to the Left, it should be on kitchen table economic issues. That is their traditional strength.

I'm sorry, but the harsh reality is that to most of the country, trans stuff is regarded as bourgeois degeneracy.

Most of the trans stuff is being pushed by a vocal minority, a part of the progressive wing that only represents less than 10% of Democrats.

The Democrats problem is that they let this small but vocal minority drown out everything else they have to say, and while they are objectively better on policy on the majority of things that would benefit most Americans, they suck at messaging on it.

They are also drowned out by the right wing, which lies about absolutely everything.

It is not a fringe of the party - the Biden administration rewrote Title IX to accommodate transgender ideology. And they are defending it in court.

If the Democrats care so much about kids and women, they would have put money into the science - physical and mental health — to try to figure out why so many girls and women suddenly (it seems) want to be boys and men. Many of us do believe that yes, some people are “born in the wrong body” and also believe that the recent surge doesn’t make sense and worry that there are other issues and forces and causes than pure biology.

But they didn’t — in fact, they went hard in the opposite direction and tell us that we have to celebrate it, talk about it, but never question it or worry about it.

YES. Someone earlier even made a sarcastic post about now that Trump has been voted in, all those transgender kids in schools will go poof! And just disappear. Its obvious sarcasm, but at the same time….if this is such a small percentage of people like we are constantly told, why do I know SO MANY kids in schools who are suddenly some other gender? Don’t tell me something is not happening (and I have definitely listened to podcasters who assure me there is no social contagion) when I can see it absolutely is. Why do half my friends’ kids seem to struggle with this (and yes they ALL ask for hormones too even though most can’t articulate why they even want them).

I am a Harris voter. I’ve voted Dem forever. But this issue is ridiculous and nonsensical. Whether it’s the campaign stating these things or not, its associated with Democrats. If they don’t want the association, they need to disavow but they are afraid to. Honestly I can see the crazy activists are the real issue. But you have to disavow, not just pretend its not happening.

FWIW, I believe there are transgender people and they deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. However, I also believe a trans woman is a trans woman. Not a woman full stop. And no amount of academic nonsense or screaming activists are going to change my mind on that. Nor the minds of MANY of my friends, who agree with me but don’t speak up.

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I do think that the right (podcasters, influencers, pols) got the electorate whipped up about this issue to a degree that in many voter's minds it outweighed the real danger that Trump poses to the country.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

That’s not happening. Social media sure but so is your body my choice. Can’t control that. Teachers can’t even give a kid an aspirin without 50 forms being signed, but ads ran saying kids are having sex changes at school. That’s outrageous that those ads ran. Blatant lies all the way around. But whatever. You won. Nothing will actually change here because this wasn’t happening to begin with. So back to the status quo of this actually still really not happening.

When the school hides that a student is a 'different gender" on campus versus at home, and the parents are not told that Jane has decided to be John at school with he/him pronouns, expect parents to rebel.

While not a sex change, it is a gender change without the knowledge of the parents. Being actively hidden and affirmed by adults who have zero business doing so.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

That’s not happening. Social media sure but so is your body my choice. Can’t control that. Teachers can’t even give a kid an aspirin without 50 forms being signed, but ads ran saying kids are having sex changes at school. That’s outrageous that those ads ran. Blatant lies all the way around. But whatever. You won. Nothing will actually change here because this wasn’t happening to begin with. So back to the status quo of this actually still really not happening.

Students at schools are allowed to be transgender at school and the school doesn’t inform the parents.

Like the Harris ads that encouraged wives to lie to their husbands about who they voted for. Democrats are big on lying to your family members for their sakes.

Schools aren’t operating on kids and changing their gender; they are encouraging kids to lie to their parents about changing gender and helping them deceive their parents. Sick.

It is even worse than this. There are kids identifying as various animals at school and teachers/admin enabling this behavior; albeit, the parents of said children are in on it too because they are insane and we as a society have been forced to accept this demented behavior.

Litter boxes in schools for kids who identify as cat gender was yet another FAKE thing from the right wing, right up there with "they're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs."

You are embarrassingly gullible and foolish and are completely lacking any critical thinking skills, PP. And, find better sources of information, because whatever sources you're relying on currently are just outright lying to you, PP.

Not one poster here has said litter boxes in schools are real! But yes, some kids, often those on the spectrum, do identify as animals. I had two students years ago, long before any of this hit the mainstream, who spent over a year identifying as cats, which mostly involved a lot of artwork, some cosplay, etc. (No, of course they never asked for a litter box!) Ultimately, one became a trans man. I have trans friends and family members and I love them. I don’t think any of this stuff should be banned or outlawed and I am not a bigot. But when you say it’s not happening you are wrong and you do the Left no favors. Obviously it’s rare! But it happens.

—A dem who has never once voted Republican and never will.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

Schools are quite literally teaching gender identity ideology

Do parents cease to exist? They want prayer back in schools now. We’re an atheist family. Is my kid going to turn Christian because there’s prayer in school? No. Because I’m still the parent.

That is entirely different. Your kid isn’t going to need counseling and therapy if they are the 10 commandments- or even if they “turn Christian”

Gender dysphoria is a DSM-5 diagnosis.
There are psychological implications of children changing their genders. It shouldn’t be “taught” or normalized in school as some flippant choice. Which is exactly what is happening

If they’re not trans learning about the existence of it doesn’t make you trans for crying out loud.

It’s not just “they exist” it’s grooming children to think they can be whatever gender they feel like on any given day. Which if that is what you think and believe- cool- but don’t teach a classroom full of preschoolers this

What does gender even mean to preschoolers? Wearing a dress? Peeing standing up? That’s about it. My preschooler couldn’t wait to be a baby again, and wanted to be a dog.

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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats move to the Left, it should be on kitchen table economic issues. That is their traditional strength.

I'm sorry, but the harsh reality is that to most of the country, trans stuff is regarded as bourgeois degeneracy.

Most of the trans stuff is being pushed by a vocal minority, a part of the progressive wing that only represents less than 10% of Democrats.

The Democrats problem is that they let this small but vocal minority drown out everything else they have to say, and while they are objectively better on policy on the majority of things that would benefit most Americans, they suck at messaging on it.

They are also drowned out by the right wing, which lies about absolutely everything.

It is not a fringe of the party - the Biden administration rewrote Title IX to accommodate transgender ideology. And they are defending it in court.

If the Democrats care so much about kids and women, they would have put money into the science - physical and mental health — to try to figure out why so many girls and women suddenly (it seems) want to be boys and men. Many of us do believe that yes, some people are “born in the wrong body” and also believe that the recent surge doesn’t make sense and worry that there are other issues and forces and causes than pure biology.

But they didn’t — in fact, they went hard in the opposite direction and tell us that we have to celebrate it, talk about it, but never question it or worry about it.

By their nature, Dems tend to be more bleeding heart for better or worse. It is a natural impulse to want to protect the vulnerable, and I would put trans people largely in the category of vulnerable in one way or another. Gender dysphoria studies are happening. My assumption is that in a Trump America, those studies would not be funded.

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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats move to the Left, it should be on kitchen table economic issues. That is their traditional strength.

I'm sorry, but the harsh reality is that to most of the country, trans stuff is regarded as bourgeois degeneracy.

Most of the trans stuff is being pushed by a vocal minority, a part of the progressive wing that only represents less than 10% of Democrats.

The Democrats problem is that they let this small but vocal minority drown out everything else they have to say, and while they are objectively better on policy on the majority of things that would benefit most Americans, they suck at messaging on it.

They are also drowned out by the right wing, which lies about absolutely everything.

It is not a fringe of the party - the Biden administration rewrote Title IX to accommodate transgender ideology. And they are defending it in court.

It wasn’t the Biden admin. This is from SCOTUS.

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Anonymous wrote:I do think that the right (podcasters, influencers, pols) got the electorate whipped up about this issue to a degree that in many voter's minds it outweighed the real danger that Trump poses to the country.

People voted on the things that impact directly. Costs, traffic, crime and schools. All things that the Dems, mostly on a local level, have been on the wrong side of things. It was hard for people, not me, to vote against the existential threat when local Dems were/are showing that it wasn't that important to them and were making core concerns worse.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

You can care about two things at once. Try it some time. Can you link to where the left demonized women who were victimized in prison by a trans prisoner? I’d like to see it.

OMG do you know nothing about the ACLU’s intervention in law suits raised by female prisoners concerning their safety?

Read how the ACLU talks about the women prisoners concerned about their safety or who have experienced violence. Read about how women who raised safety concerns were put in solitary confinement. Read about how California has treated the women prisoners who have been harmed.

Educate yourself. And no, I’m not linking to the docket for you. There are too many links, and some are court filings. You should do your own damn homework anyhow.

I googled. Only found instances of trans people being put in solitary confinement, not those who raised safety concerns.

I did find an instance of a transwoman who raped a woman in Cali -https://www.foxnews.com/us/third-strike-trans-rape-suspect-prompts-rebellion-against-ca-law-after-attack-womens-prison

This PDF is the complaint filed, if you want to read the stomach-churning details. There is a section that discusses the retaliatory actions taken by prison officials against women who raised safety concerns.