Student walkout

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

When all it takes to gain access to the girls’ locker room is an assertion that one is trans or non-binary, it obviously changes the dynamic in a material way.

Yep. I don’t want trans kids in my daughter’s bathroom.

Good that it doesn't take just that and you're fighting against your own strawman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

But that isn’t the whole story — the one student was transferred to another school after the incident was attempted or completed at the previous school. Again probably a one off story, but it did stoke concerns about parents being kept in the dark.

The situation is not as black and white as people want to believe. Imagine going into a parent-teacher type meeting. Maybe teachers only know a student by the student’s new identity and the parents are unaware of this new identity.

The new sex in the city provides a imperfectly perfect example of this type of situation involving Charlotte’s younger child.

Parents are blanketedly being cast in role if the can’t be trusted category, when at the end of the day they are responsible for them. In some ways you can draw parallels between what’s happening with the overturning of abortion and women’s rights. In this case parents can’t be trusted to do what’s best for their kids.

This is just not true. Teachers just don't want to be in the role of monitoring and reporting. Putting teachers in this role damages the relationships they have with students around so many issues. Kids talk and write about their friendships in class, about things they are worried about etc. If the teacher is perceived as someone who can constantly be tapped for info about their lives, they will just shut up about it. Teachers currently monitor and report abuse/danger/rule-breaking. Adding more to that is a burden and unfair--especially since there is no evidence that using another name is harmful. You might not want your kid to play around with names and pronouns, but in my view you have no right to force others to monitor and report that to you.

Parents need to step up and be involved in their kids' lives, not force others to inform on them.

Sorry, I disagree. I see teachers also being in a difficult position, but when parents are deliberately kept out of the conversations about their own child then they are cast as the bad guys. Even if kids have good relationships with their parents, coming out can be hard. But letting parents be the last to know is not good. There may be other problems at home that could be alleviated if the parents are informed. I’m not saying schools need to do a check every day on every students identity. However, if a student is receiving for example counseling services through school about this or other mental/physical/social issues, the parents need to be informed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

When all it takes to gain access to the girls’ locker room is an assertion that one is trans or non-binary, it obviously changes the dynamic in a material way.

Yep. I don’t want trans kids in my daughter’s bathroom.

Not even transgender boys?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why the left doesn't just argue for all bathrooms to be available to everyone. Also might as well remove male/female sport and just have sports.

I support having unisex bathrooms with some individual bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

But that isn’t the whole story — the one student was transferred to another school after the incident was attempted or completed at the previous school. Again probably a one off story, but it did stoke concerns about parents being kept in the dark.

The situation is not as black and white as people want to believe. Imagine going into a parent-teacher type meeting. Maybe teachers only know a student by the student’s new identity and the parents are unaware of this new identity.

The new sex in the city provides a imperfectly perfect example of this type of situation involving Charlotte’s younger child.

Parents are blanketedly being cast in role if the can’t be trusted category, when at the end of the day they are responsible for them. In some ways you can draw parallels between what’s happening with the overturning of abortion and women’s rights. In this case parents can’t be trusted to do what’s best for their kids.

This is just not true. Teachers just don't want to be in the role of monitoring and reporting. Putting teachers in this role damages the relationships they have with students around so many issues. Kids talk and write about their friendships in class, about things they are worried about etc. If the teacher is perceived as someone who can constantly be tapped for info about their lives, they will just shut up about it. Teachers currently monitor and report abuse/danger/rule-breaking. Adding more to that is a burden and unfair--especially since there is no evidence that using another name is harmful. You might not want your kid to play around with names and pronouns, but in my view you have no right to force others to monitor and report that to you.

Parents need to step up and be involved in their kids' lives, not force others to inform on them.

Sorry, I disagree. I see teachers also being in a difficult position, but when parents are deliberately kept out of the conversations about their own child then they are cast as the bad guys. Even if kids have good relationships with their parents, coming out can be hard. But letting parents be the last to know is not good. There may be other problems at home that could be alleviated if the parents are informed. I’m not saying schools need to do a check every day on every students identity. However, if a student is receiving for example counseling services through school about this or other mental/physical/social issues, the parents need to be informed.

I'm the PP--I agree students that students who receive school counseling on an issue should have their parents informed (though I do understand that this then can be a deterrent to seeking counseling) because they are experiencing the need for support. I'm disagreeing with asking teachers to report things like name changes/social behaviors etc. to parents for kids who have not sought counseling for the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why the left doesn't just argue for all bathrooms to be available to everyone. Also might as well remove male/female sport and just have sports.

Removing gender from sports would be the end of Women’s sports in the US, and the scrapping of all the hard-fought gains won for Women athletes under Title IX.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why the left doesn't just argue for all bathrooms to be available to everyone. Also might as well remove male/female sport and just have sports.

Removing gender from sports would be the end of Women’s sports in the US, and the scrapping of all the hard-fought gains won for Women athletes under Title IX.

I’m pretty sure these activists would be a-ok with that outcome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why the left doesn't just argue for all bathrooms to be available to everyone. Also might as well remove male/female sport and just have sports.

Removing gender from sports would be the end of Women’s sports in the US, and the scrapping of all the hard-fought gains won for Women athletes under Title IX.

Yeah we all know that.

[Anonymous]

Very low participation at our school. Why don’t parents listen to kids? They aren’t the ones against the Governors policy. If you actually read it, it is a pretty good policy. The kids see that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why the left doesn't just argue for all bathrooms to be available to everyone. Also might as well remove male/female sport and just have sports.

Removing gender from sports would be the end of Women’s sports in the US, and the scrapping of all the hard-fought gains won for Women athletes under Title IX.

What's the percentage of transkids competing in high school sports. One state found a total of 4 kids, none at the highest level in their sport. Keep throwing up those strawman arguments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very low participation at our school. Why don’t parents listen to kids? They aren’t the ones against the Governors policy. If you actually read it, it is a pretty good policy. The kids see that.

Read the proposed policy for yourself:

https://doe.virginia.gov/support/gender-diversity/2022-model-policies-on-the-privacy-dignity-and-respect-for-all-students-town-hall.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very low participation at our school. Why don’t parents listen to kids? They aren’t the ones against the Governors policy. If you actually read it, it is a pretty good policy. The kids see that.

+1 kids are stupid

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

When all it takes to gain access to the girls’ locker room is an assertion that one is trans or non-binary, it obviously changes the dynamic in a material way.

Yep. I don’t want trans kids in my daughter’s bathroom.

Not even transgender boys?

Anyone going into the girls bathroom must have a vagina.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does FCPS want this? Does FCPS really care about girls, who will be the ones most inconvenienced (putting it mildly) with boys in their bathrooms or locker rooms? Is there nobody who sees dangers of such kind of policies?

stop watching FOX NEWs that isn't happening

I agree it doesn’t seem prevalent but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t or won’t happen. Recall the situation with the kid in LCPS last(?) year. That was real, and very confusing.

The situation in LCPS was two kids who had an ongoing consensual sexual relationship which then turned non-consensual at one point. One of the kids was gender non-conforming (not sure if the other was). But it was partner-rape, not like the kid was a predator in the bathroom--this couple regularly met up with each other for sex in multiple places including in the school bathroom, like heterosexual, gender-conforming kids sometimes do too regardless of school policy. It's a partner-rape situation that was handled poorly by the school like many partner-rape situations are regardless if the kids are gay, straight, transgender or cis gender and the school policies should be investigated for how they handle partner/date rape, not how they handle bathrooms.

When all it takes to gain access to the girls’ locker room is an assertion that one is trans or non-binary, it obviously changes the dynamic in a material way.

Yep. I don’t want trans kids in my daughter’s bathroom.

Not even transgender boys?

Anyone going into the girls bathroom must have a vagina.

People with a uterus?

[Anonymous]

Schools support kids - 100%.

They don’t exist to help parents talk to their kids.