Zoo Lights Shooting and Violence
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Anonymous
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I've gone to Zoolights every year for the past 6 years and here is my assessment.
1. Chance of shooting/danger to you and your child at Zoolights - very close to 0%. 2. Chance of passing by at least one group of rowdy teens swearing loudly, running through the crowd, and smoking weed at Zoolights - very close to 100%. We were there this year the night when they shut down, but had left already by the time all the shenanigans happened. Even still, it was the worst I've seen in terms for number 2 above, but that could be because it was the first year we went on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. |
Anonymous
Blaming the victim?! Shame on you, bro. |
Anonymous
What's good for the yin is good for the yang. If it's perfectly okay for dozens of DCUM folks to blame the two juvenile victims who were shot a block south of the National Zoo entrance shortly after ZooLights closed early and say it's all their fault they got shot because they're presumably a couple of thug Metro fare jumpers who shouldn't have been in the neighborhood to begin with, well then it's perfectly okay for the head of an NYPD union to say that the college student "was in the park to buy marijuana" and basically insinuate it's her fault she got stabbed cause she shouldn't have been there to begin with. Yin and yang. |
Anonymous
No one blames the people who got shot. But if they know the thugs who shot them and won’t tell, then screw ‘em. |
Anonymous
it sure seems that way. It seems like you are all about a periodic sacrifice to the gods of violence. Oh, I haven't exaggerated? And yet two people were shot, some stores stripped of their shelves, owners punched in the face and sent to hospital and evacuation mayhem with small kids. But whatevs. "I'm willing to take my chances because life in the big city.." |
Anonymous
Well if that college student didn’t know better than to go to a park where a feral gang of young predators hangs out looking to score herself some weed then screw her. Yin and yang. |
Anonymous
No, because the benefits of the proposed “solutions,” whether it’s admission fees for what’s always been a free event at a free national park or additional policing that targets only black/brown/young people, don’t come anywhere near the downsides, especially given that the goal is to reduce an already very low risk from very low to marginally lower. Not because “life in the big city.” How would charging admission have prevented the stuff that didn’t happen in the zoo, in particular? |
Anonymous
Do you plan to drive to zoo lights once you start going again if they add an admission fee? Because your chances of getting injured or killed in a car accident on the way there are much higher than your chances of being shot or mugged while attending. |
Anonymous
| Just fyi we went to Zoolights this past Saturday night. It was crowded, not uncomfortably so, but we didn't encounter a single group of cursing teens. Or any teens behaving badly at all. It was a diverse crowd, people of every color, tons of families but also young people on their own. There's a security check-in, no different than going to the Mall for the 4th or a museum. Honestly I prefer the zoo when you can actually see the animals! But if you want a festive environment, Zoolights is still a hit. |
Anonymous
I have No problem with profiling. It has nothing to do with race but a lot to do with age, groups of people and actions. It’s easy actually to pick out the young thugs from families and law abiding zoo visitors. |
Anonymous
Wasnt the security check in implemented in response to this outburst ? |
Anonymous
Good job lowering yourself to the level of someone else on the internet who said something asinine. |
Anonymous
Those officers in the units that basically had quotas for frisking didn't like it for obvious reasons. A lot of the NYPD hates Deblasio, so they just want something to complain about (handcuffed, cant do job, etc). Trust me, it is absolutely legal (terry v ohio) and acceptable to pat someone down if you have reasonable suspicion. And if you want aggressive pat downs, you too can and will be pat down. |
Anonymous
Not a fan of stop and frisk. It's legal, yes, but it's biased as shit. And I don't think people realize how damaging it is for adolescents to be under that type of heavy scrutiny by law enforcement ALL THE TIME. Especially when they've done nothing wrong but "look suspicious/threatening" i.e. have black skin, which is something that they cannot change. That type of frequent harassment from authorities is not something you simply shrug off and accept as a part of life. Especially not during formative years. Most kids of that age are already having a tough enough time as it is going thru all kinds of physical and emotional changes. Most kids of that age are already struggling with increased expectations and responsibilities while dealing with all kinds of insecurities and uncertainties. Must be quite daunting to not only deal with those normal difficulties of adolescence but to also carry the burden of being the most hated/targeted person in the country (young black male) around. Think about it... Most adolescents are simply struggling to figure out the world around them and trying to find their place in it. But as a young black male you're being told constantly seemingly everywhere that you go in no uncertain terms by "the powers that be" that your place is up against the wall with your hands behind your head because nobody likes you or trusts you and for all intents and purposes society-at-large seems to be saying that you aren't welcome. Stop and frisk may make some people feel safer but it doesn't do shit to make vulnerable young adults feel good about themselves or their place in this world. |
Anonymous
Exactly. I am all for policing that addresses ACTUAL nuisances and public disorder (like open-air drug dealing, open containers, traffic violations, even littering). Stop and Frisk is lazy and racist policing. |