Zoo Lights Shooting and Violence

[Anonymous]

What is the follow up to the mayhem and shootings? What policy changes has the zoo implemented? At the end of the day, some of our policing and policies need to be reactive to events like this, and proactive to preventing repeats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the follow up to the mayhem and shootings? What policy changes has the zoo implemented? At the end of the day, some of our policing and policies need to be reactive to events like this, and proactive to preventing repeats.

I don’t want any change in policies — I like being able to go to the zoo with my family without needing to go through metal detectors or wait in security lines, thanks.

[Anonymous]

I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

Well, it’s happened one time that I can recall, so no, I would not say it’s “likely” that teenagers will be shooting each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

Well, it’s happened one time that I can recall, so no, I would not say it’s “likely” that teenagers will be shooting each other.

You must be new around here. It used to be an annual occurrence. Now seems semi annual.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-stabbed-near-national-zoo/1898346/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-suspect-in-zoo-shooting-has-difficult-past/61704/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/10/26/17-year-old-admits-to-shootings-outside-zoo/ea85d446-54b1-40f4-8b4d-1de66b73ff6d/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

Well, it’s happened one time that I can recall, so no, I would not say it’s “likely” that teenagers will be shooting each other.

You must be new around here. It used to be an annual occurrence. Now seems semi annual.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-stabbed-near-national-zoo/1898346/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-suspect-in-zoo-shooting-has-difficult-past/61704/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/10/26/17-year-old-admits-to-shootings-outside-zoo/ea85d446-54b1-40f4-8b4d-1de66b73ff6d/

Are you dense?
An incident in 2014, an incident in 2012, and an incident in 2000 do not add up to “semiannual” doofus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

Well, it’s happened one time that I can recall, so no, I would not say it’s “likely” that teenagers will be shooting each other.

You must be new around here. It used to be an annual occurrence. Now seems semi annual.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-stabbed-near-national-zoo/1898346/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-suspect-in-zoo-shooting-has-difficult-past/61704/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/10/26/17-year-old-admits-to-shootings-outside-zoo/ea85d446-54b1-40f4-8b4d-1de66b73ff6d/

Actually, I grew up around here (going to events at the zoo with my parents) and have been back for about 20 years. None of the links you posted happened at Zoo Lights, and even ignoring that, four incidents of random violence since 2000 is hardly a common enough problem to think you should stay away from the zoo as a result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

Well, it’s happened one time that I can recall, so no, I would not say it’s “likely” that teenagers will be shooting each other.

You must be new around here. It used to be an annual occurrence. Now seems semi annual.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-stabbed-near-national-zoo/1898346/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-suspect-in-zoo-shooting-has-difficult-past/61704/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/10/26/17-year-old-admits-to-shootings-outside-zoo/ea85d446-54b1-40f4-8b4d-1de66b73ff6d/

Are you dense?
An incident in 2014, an incident in 2012, and an incident in 2000 do not add up to “semiannual” doofus.

It's a regular thing. I'd expect mayhem at this event in the future based solely on past experiences, unless exclusionary methods are adopted. Even charging $5 admission would go a long way towards keeping out the sort of troublemakers who are doing this stuff. Criminals are notoriously cheap, especially teenage ones. Charging a token admission will screen most of them out. Charging an expensive admission would be even better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

Well, it’s happened one time that I can recall, so no, I would not say it’s “likely” that teenagers will be shooting each other.

You must be new around here. It used to be an annual occurrence. Now seems semi annual.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-stabbed-near-national-zoo/1898346/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-suspect-in-zoo-shooting-has-difficult-past/61704/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/10/26/17-year-old-admits-to-shootings-outside-zoo/ea85d446-54b1-40f4-8b4d-1de66b73ff6d/

Are you dense?
An incident in 2014, an incident in 2012, and an incident in 2000 do not add up to “semiannual” doofus.

It's a regular thing. I'd expect mayhem at this event in the future based solely on past experiences, unless exclusionary methods are adopted. Even charging $5 admission would go a long way towards keeping out the sort of troublemakers who are doing this stuff. Criminals are notoriously cheap, especially teenage ones. Charging a token admission will screen most of them out. Charging an expensive admission would be even better.

I'd rather continue to take my chances on an extremely rare outbreak of violence and still have this event remain free than see them implement expensive admission charges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

Well, it’s happened one time that I can recall, so no, I would not say it’s “likely” that teenagers will be shooting each other.

You must be new around here. It used to be an annual occurrence. Now seems semi annual.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-stabbed-near-national-zoo/1898346/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-suspect-in-zoo-shooting-has-difficult-past/61704/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/10/26/17-year-old-admits-to-shootings-outside-zoo/ea85d446-54b1-40f4-8b4d-1de66b73ff6d/

Are you dense?
An incident in 2014, an incident in 2012, and an incident in 2000 do not add up to “semiannual” doofus.

It's a regular thing. I'd expect mayhem at this event in the future based solely on past experiences, unless exclusionary methods are adopted. Even charging $5 admission would go a long way towards keeping out the sort of troublemakers who are doing this stuff. Criminals are notoriously cheap, especially teenage ones. Charging a token admission will screen most of them out. Charging an expensive admission would be even better.

I'd rather continue to take my chances on an extremely rare outbreak of violence and still have this event remain free than see them implement expensive admission charges.

Except it's not just your chances, right? It's everyone who attends chances...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

Well, it’s happened one time that I can recall, so no, I would not say it’s “likely” that teenagers will be shooting each other.

You must be new around here. It used to be an annual occurrence. Now seems semi annual.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-stabbed-near-national-zoo/1898346/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-suspect-in-zoo-shooting-has-difficult-past/61704/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/10/26/17-year-old-admits-to-shootings-outside-zoo/ea85d446-54b1-40f4-8b4d-1de66b73ff6d/

Are you dense?
An incident in 2014, an incident in 2012, and an incident in 2000 do not add up to “semiannual” doofus.

It's a regular thing. I'd expect mayhem at this event in the future based solely on past experiences, unless exclusionary methods are adopted. Even charging $5 admission would go a long way towards keeping out the sort of troublemakers who are doing this stuff. Criminals are notoriously cheap, especially teenage ones. Charging a token admission will screen most of them out. Charging an expensive admission would be even better.

I'd rather continue to take my chances on an extremely rare outbreak of violence and still have this event remain free than see them implement expensive admission charges.

Except it's not just your chances, right? It's everyone who attends chances...

So don’t go, if you’re really scared that something that has happened once in the history of zoo lights will happen again. But don’t demand that they start charging admission just to take the odds from really low to even lower.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

Well, it’s happened one time that I can recall, so no, I would not say it’s “likely” that teenagers will be shooting each other.

You must be new around here. It used to be an annual occurrence. Now seems semi annual.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-stabbed-near-national-zoo/1898346/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-suspect-in-zoo-shooting-has-difficult-past/61704/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/10/26/17-year-old-admits-to-shootings-outside-zoo/ea85d446-54b1-40f4-8b4d-1de66b73ff6d/

Are you dense?
An incident in 2014, an incident in 2012, and an incident in 2000 do not add up to “semiannual” doofus.

It's a regular thing. I'd expect mayhem at this event in the future based solely on past experiences, unless exclusionary methods are adopted. Even charging $5 admission would go a long way towards keeping out the sort of troublemakers who are doing this stuff. Criminals are notoriously cheap, especially teenage ones. Charging a token admission will screen most of them out. Charging an expensive admission would be even better.

I'd rather continue to take my chances on an extremely rare outbreak of violence and still have this event remain free than see them implement expensive admission charges.

Except it's not just your chances, right? It's everyone who attends chances...

So don’t go, if you’re really scared that something that has happened once in the history of zoo lights will happen again. But don’t demand that they start charging admission just to take the odds from really low to even lower.

So it'll just be you there taking your chances? Or since you are willing, you are just wishing the Shirley Jackson Lottery approach on everyone else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to know if it's safe to bring my young children to Zoo Lights or if teenagers are likely to start shooting at each other.

Well, it’s happened one time that I can recall, so no, I would not say it’s “likely” that teenagers will be shooting each other.

You must be new around here. It used to be an annual occurrence. Now seems semi annual.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-stabbed-near-national-zoo/1898346/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/teen-suspect-in-zoo-shooting-has-difficult-past/61704/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2000/10/26/17-year-old-admits-to-shootings-outside-zoo/ea85d446-54b1-40f4-8b4d-1de66b73ff6d/

Are you dense?
An incident in 2014, an incident in 2012, and an incident in 2000 do not add up to “semiannual” doofus.

It's a regular thing. I'd expect mayhem at this event in the future based solely on past experiences, unless exclusionary methods are adopted. Even charging $5 admission would go a long way towards keeping out the sort of troublemakers who are doing this stuff. Criminals are notoriously cheap, especially teenage ones. Charging a token admission will screen most of them out. Charging an expensive admission would be even better.

I'd rather continue to take my chances on an extremely rare outbreak of violence and still have this event remain free than see them implement expensive admission charges.

Except it's not just your chances, right? It's everyone who attends chances...

So don’t go, if you’re really scared that something that has happened once in the history of zoo lights will happen again. But don’t demand that they start charging admission just to take the odds from really low to even lower.

So it'll just be you there taking your chances? Or since you are willing, you are just wishing the Shirley Jackson Lottery approach on everyone else?

Yes, GOING TO THE ZOO is exactly like being forced into a random drawing where one family is ritually murdered every year, correct. You haven't exaggerated the dangers involved here one whit.

[Anonymous]

I would love it if the National Park Police and the Metropolitan police utilized aggressive stop and frisk for suspicious persons at zoo events and in the environs of the zoo. It would make things a lot better for the law abiding majority. In NYC, Mayor DiBlasio is being roundly criticized for handcuffing the police, including ending stop and frisk, thus allowing a feral gang of young predators to murder a Barnard student by campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would love it if the National Park Police and the Metropolitan police utilized aggressive stop and frisk for suspicious persons at zoo events and in the environs of the zoo. It would make things a lot better for the law abiding majority. In NYC, Mayor DiBlasio is being roundly criticized for handcuffing the police, including ending stop and frisk, thus allowing a feral gang of young predators to murder a Barnard student by campus.

If you scared stay your ass indoors or move to Fauquier County and DEFINITELY don't go wandering into the park at night in New York looking to score some weed - that idiotic behavior may make you vulnerable to a feral gang of young predators.