John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


Show me where "the left" has demonized or dehumanized women victimized by transwomen in prison.


Just as bad, they simply ignore it as if it never even happened at all. They won’t even acknowledge it.
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Anonymous wrote:It would have been so easy for Dems to reframe all of this as a fight for medical freedom, for women, for parents, etc.

Instead we fought about pronouns. Dumbasses.



The problem with this strategy is Dems also spent the entirety of the pandemic screeching that there WERE no “medical freedoms”, at least when it came to doing what an individual thought best for their own body, and that “freedumb” itself was a dangerous, Trumpian concept worthy of scorn and ridicule whenever it was brought up.

So the “freedom” avenue isn’t available to democrats now. Not for at least another decade or two.


Trump was president during the pandemic. Not sure how Dems get blamed for it when he’s clearly the one who took our medical freedoms away and will continue to do so.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


You can care about two things at once. Try it some time. Can you link to where the left demonized women who were victimized in prison by a trans prisoner? I’d like to see it.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


You can care about two things at once. Try it some time. Can you link to where the left demonized women who were victimized in prison by a trans prisoner? I’d like to see it.


I think the PP is wondering why no one on the left spoke up about it and said, hmmm, maybe trans women aren’t the same as women and shouldn’t be in women’s spaces when it presents a safety issue or other inequitable outcome.
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Anonymous wrote:It would have been so easy for Dems to reframe all of this as a fight for medical freedom, for women, for parents, etc.

Instead we fought about pronouns. Dumbasses.



The problem with this strategy is Dems also spent the entirety of the pandemic screeching that there WERE no “medical freedoms”, at least when it came to doing what an individual thought best for their own body, and that “freedumb” itself was a dangerous, Trumpian concept worthy of scorn and ridicule whenever it was brought up.

So the “freedom” avenue isn’t available to democrats now. Not for at least another decade or two.


Trump was president during the pandemic. Not sure how Dems get blamed for it when he’s clearly the one who took our medical freedoms away and will continue to do so.


Yeah, no one thinks that. No one.

Fetch isn’t gonna happen.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


You can care about two things at once. Try it some time. Can you link to where the left demonized women who were victimized in prison by a trans prisoner? I’d like to see it.


OMG do you know nothing about the ACLU’s intervention in law suits raised by female prisoners concerning their safety?

Read how the ACLU talks about the women prisoners concerned about their safety or who have experienced violence. Read about how women who raised safety concerns were put in solitary confinement. Read about how California has treated the women prisoners who have been harmed.

Educate yourself. And no, I’m not linking to the docket for you. There are too many links, and some are court filings. You should do your own damn homework anyhow.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


You can care about two things at once. Try it some time. Can you link to where the left demonized women who were victimized in prison by a trans prisoner? I’d like to see it.


I think the PP is wondering why no one on the left spoke up about it and said, hmmm, maybe trans women aren’t the same as women and shouldn’t be in women’s spaces when it presents a safety issue or other inequitable outcome.


Well, even more, why do leftist organizations intervene on behalf of the transgender prisoners in litigations about this, rather than the victimized women? Why does the leftist state of California fight on the side of the transgender woman doing the harm rather than the victim of the transgender woman’s crime?
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


You can care about two things at once. Try it some time. Can you link to where the left demonized women who were victimized in prison by a trans prisoner? I’d like to see it.


OMG do you know nothing about the ACLU’s intervention in law suits raised by female prisoners concerning their safety?

Read how the ACLU talks about the women prisoners concerned about their safety or who have experienced violence. Read about how women who raised safety concerns were put in solitary confinement. Read about how California has treated the women prisoners who have been harmed.

Educate yourself. And no, I’m not linking to the docket for you. There are too many links, and some are court filings. You should do your own damn homework anyhow.


Well said.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


Show me where "the left" has demonized or dehumanized women victimized by transwomen in prison.


Just as bad, they simply ignore it as if it never even happened at all. They won’t even acknowledge it.


+1 it’s messed up that women are ignored even when being beaten and raped in prison. No woman should be beaten and raped by a man, much less imprisoned with a man with no escape and attacked. My G-d people wake up.
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The ACLU is now “the dems?”

Once again, I’d like to remind everyone that only the Supreme Court can clarify the Bostock decision. Gorsuch expanded the definition of “sex discrimination.”
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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


Not a young woman's athletic scholarship depends on pitching on the softball team or the university allowing a trans man to take your place and scholarship because they can't compete with non-trans men.


Kamala voter and I agree—the fact that this rarely happens is totally irrelevant to a low info voter. They don’t like it, people have to stop defending it and not be afraid to say that it’s wrong.


If it happens a single time, it’s happened too many times.

Biological males should not play sports on any level with women. They are not women, women are women. It’s not hurting their feelings, it’s telling the truth.


None of you gave a shit about women and girls sports until it gave you a reason to have a grievance against transwomen.


The only people I know who bring up this topic are female athletes and parents of daughters.


How many Americans have daughters, granddaughters, and sisters? How many of those people don’t want them to have to compete against a biological male?


You are acting like they are 51% of the population. /s
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Anonymous wrote:The ACLU is now “the dems?”

Once again, I’d like to remind everyone that only the Supreme Court can clarify the Bostock decision. Gorsuch expanded the definition of “sex discrimination.”


You think the ACLU is on the side of the Republicans?

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/american-civil-liberties-union/recipients?id=D000031473
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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats move to the Left, it should be on kitchen table economic issues. That is their traditional strength.

I'm sorry, but the harsh reality is that to most of the country, trans stuff is regarded as bourgeois degeneracy.


Most of the trans stuff is being pushed by a vocal minority, a part of the progressive wing that only represents less than 10% of Democrats.

The Democrats problem is that they let this small but vocal minority drown out everything else they have to say, and while they are objectively better on policy on the majority of things that would benefit most Americans, they suck at messaging on it.

They are also drowned out by the right wing, which lies about absolutely everything.


It is not a fringe of the party - the Biden administration rewrote Title IX to accommodate transgender ideology. And they are defending it in court.


If the Democrats care so much about kids and women, they would have put money into the science - physical and mental health — to try to figure out why so many girls and women suddenly (it seems) want to be boys and men. Many of us do believe that yes, some people are “born in the wrong body” and also believe that the recent surge doesn’t make sense and worry that there are other issues and forces and causes than pure biology.

But they didn’t — in fact, they went hard in the opposite direction and tell us that we have to celebrate it, talk about it, but never question it or worry about it.
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If you're "pointing the blame at one specific demographic" for Democrats' losses in last week's elections, you're gravely "missing the mark," according to John Oliver.

The comedian tackled Kamala Harris' defeat during the most recent episode of Last Week Tonight, calling out supposed progressives who have turned against transgender people and blamed so-called "woke" issues for Donald Trump's win.

"It's telling how quickly some are jumping to predetermined conclusions that don't match the campaign that just wrapped up," Oliver said. "For instance, some Democrats are loudly claiming that the party needs to move to the center."

The host then referenced comments from New York congressman Tom Suozzi, a Democrat, who recently argued that "the Democrats have to stop pandering to the far left ... I don't want to discriminate against anybody, but I don't think biological boys should be playing in girls' sports." Other Democratic lawmakers have made similar claims in the wake of Harris' loss.

https://www.tiktok.com/@lastweektonighthbo/video/7437190944551669035


If you watch the clip, he is very forcefully rejecting the argument Suozzi made.


And he is forcefully wrong.

Anyone with school-aged kids knows this is not a small issue. It’s pervasive. Its in the schools, its in the doctors office, its everytime I fill out a form and get 13 choices for my child’s gender. I know I’m not the only mom who switched my vote to republican this year over it.


Just as one example, there are 5th graders at my kid’s school who identify as wolves and the other kids get in trouble if they use the term “furry” rather than “therian.” Meanwhile the few black kids at the school have been called racial slurs and rarely does anyone get in trouble…the admin seems totally clueless it’s even happening. This is in a purple state, with many Trump voters.

The sad and complicated truth, from someone who has been teaching 17 years, is that Trumpism has empowered kids and adults to say the “n-word” again. It disgusts me. It’s also absolutely true that the gender issue is pervasive, and Dems look dumb when they deny it. Another example…we have a HS state champion runner who is a trans girl, who keeps winning big, even though when she ran with the boys team she didn’t even place. Is it a huge deal to me personally? No. Would I vote for Trump because of it? No way.

But it IS happening and when Dems deny that it is, they piss people off. Plain and simple.


Have you ever listened to rap music? they say the n word constantly during their songs.

That’s what kids listen to.


Um, yeah, I was listening to it in the 90’s. No doubt there was plenty of cultural insensitivity and rapping along to lyrics at my high school. We all still knew not to use the hard “r” version, which I what I am talking about here. Like I said, I have been teaching in the same area for a long time, long enough to see trends and habits change. Obviously it’s just one anecdote. But it’s a trend I have found troubling, to say the least. Also, to be clear—I don’t think it’s just Trump, I also think it’s that newer generations are less familiar with the battles of the Civil Rights movement. I’m 44 so my parents were actually part of some of those movements and it was part of my understanding of the world growing up. For younger generations, it feels far more distant and abstract. I guess I just think all of this stuff is more complicated than people want to examine. We all want the silver bullet answer, of course. I get that. And pundits with black and white views, such as those on Fox News and also, yeah, someone like John Oliver, give that to their audiences.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.
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