UVA mass shooting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whoever wrote his recommendations for admission should feel bad, given his long history of problems. And the judge who suspended his previous (vehicular) charges should be looked at.

Leniency and social graduation did not help this young man. And how could’ve possibly gotten student of the year ?!! 😵‍💫

What the hell are you talking about? Why should someone who helped him pursue his education feel bad? You do realize that this young man could have in fact been a good, high achieving student who showed true promise? I understand the desire to "other" people who do horrific things, but the reality may well be that he was deserving of his student of the year award when he got it. And sadly, his life took a turn for the worse due to mental illness and access to guns. Are you really saying that we should give up on kids who get into trouble for any reason and never give them opportunities? Just stop.

He had a reckless driving charge. Hit and run. Fighting and concealed weapon.

You would vouch for him? With all of the students who want to go to UVA?

The day of the killing he may have had a psychotic break, but it sounds like he was problematic for years.

[Anonymous]

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It bothers me that the suspect’s dad says his son revealed that he was being bullied and seemed paranoid, but was reluctant to disclose what he was paranoid about, they didn’t speak again for a month, and now, after his son shot 5 people and killed 3 of them, he’s saying his son could’ve called him instead? I feel like most parents would be doing some soul searching about all the things they should have done differently if their child was a mass shooter.

From reading other articles, I had the sense the dad was not very involved at all with raising his son after the age of 5, and was not really a part of his son's life. Not talking to his son for a month, when he thought his son was troubled, kind of confirms that the dad was not an active parent. I read this article and felt like the dad wanted the limelight, but that's me being cynical.

I read similar articles that indicated the dad was not involved really at all since the suspect was a small child. The suspect had problems getting along with kids (fights, transferring schools, etc) since elementary school. He also wasn’t able to get along with his mother and moved in with his grandmother senior year of high school. His time on the UVA football team as a walk-on was brief and did not overlap with the victims (according the the UVA athletic director press conference today).

AT one point do you think universities should consider behavior and risk when evaluating college applicants. It seems many overlook the disciplinary/fights, and other issues when if you are looking a perspective student body you really shouldn't be admitting kids with well-documented violence issues.

Colleges and high schools (when writing recommendations and providing documentation) need to start heeding 'troubled teens' and the risks they pose on campus. A history of fights and other trouble should have been an issue at time of admissions, no matter the race.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just read the shooter was not in the class, but was invited on the trip by the prof? Wow. I suspect UVA is going to be successfully sued for a very very large sum by everyone involved. What a tragedy.

UVA will be sued, but it will be because they dragged their feet dismissing the shooter after he had those charges, not because a professor invited all the students from her other classes on this trip.

It’ll be all of the above. Her permission put a kid who wasn’t in the class on that bus.

There is no rule against that. She opened it up to her other students. You people are crazy

This is NOT her fault. She had no reason to think he was different from any other student. Unless we hear otherwise, it doesn't sound like anyone was made aware of his dispensary status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whoever wrote his recommendations for admission should feel bad, given his long history of problems. And the judge who suspended his previous (vehicular) charges should be looked at.

Leniency and social graduation did not help this young man. And how could’ve possibly gotten student of the year ?!! 😵‍💫

What the hell are you talking about? Why should someone who helped him pursue his education feel bad? You do realize that this young man could have in fact been a good, high achieving student who showed true promise? I understand the desire to "other" people who do horrific things, but the reality may well be that he was deserving of his student of the year award when he got it. And sadly, his life took a turn for the worse due to mental illness and access to guns. Are you really saying that we should give up on kids who get into trouble for any reason and never give them opportunities? Just stop.

He had a reckless driving charge. Hit and run. Fighting and concealed weapon.

You would vouch for him? With all of the students who want to go to UVA?

The day of the killing he may have had a psychotic break, but it sounds like he was problematic for years.

Not sure what you are reading but from what I’ve seen,
it actually sounds like he excelled for years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m o UVA grad and while I believe in the honor system, I would MUCH rather those resources go to addressing behavioral issues like what seems to have been the case with the shooter than worrying about if someone cheated on a test.

This is a UJC issue

I get that it’s not the same system just making a point where the priorities should be

[Anonymous]

Can he get the death penalty?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whoever wrote his recommendations for admission should feel bad, given his long history of problems. And the judge who suspended his previous (vehicular) charges should be looked at.

Leniency and social graduation did not help this young man. And how could’ve possibly gotten student of the year ?!! 😵‍💫

What the hell are you talking about? Why should someone who helped him pursue his education feel bad? You do realize that this young man could have in fact been a good, high achieving student who showed true promise? I understand the desire to "other" people who do horrific things, but the reality may well be that he was deserving of his student of the year award when he got it. And sadly, his life took a turn for the worse due to mental illness and access to guns. Are you really saying that we should give up on kids who get into trouble for any reason and never give them opportunities? Just stop.

He had a reckless driving charge. Hit and run. Fighting and concealed weapon.

You would vouch for him? With all of the students who want to go to UVA?

The day of the killing he may have had a psychotic break, but it sounds like he was problematic for years.

+1 it is disgusting that there are people on here defending the shooter. As his history indicates, he’s not a regular law abiding kid that all of a sudden had a psychotic break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whoever wrote his recommendations for admission should feel bad, given his long history of problems. And the judge who suspended his previous (vehicular) charges should be looked at.

Leniency and social graduation did not help this young man. And how could’ve possibly gotten student of the year ?!! 😵‍💫

What the hell are you talking about? Why should someone who helped him pursue his education feel bad? You do realize that this young man could have in fact been a good, high achieving student who showed true promise? I understand the desire to "other" people who do horrific things, but the reality may well be that he was deserving of his student of the year award when he got it. And sadly, his life took a turn for the worse due to mental illness and access to guns. Are you really saying that we should give up on kids who get into trouble for any reason and never give them opportunities? Just stop.

He had a reckless driving charge. Hit and run. Fighting and concealed weapon.

You would vouch for him? With all of the students who want to go to UVA?

The day of the killing he may have had a psychotic break, but it sounds like he was problematic for years.

+1 it is disgusting that there are people on here defending the shooter. As his history indicates, he’s not a regular law abiding kid that all of a sudden had a psychotic break.

+2 While he may have had a break (not saying it is definite), he also has a significant history of violating the law. I am also disturbed by the responses of his family members who almost seem to think that the shooting was a natural response to his being bullied. Their attitudes go a long way to understanding that this young man may not have a very strong moral or ethical system guiding him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you think this tragic event will affect the number of applicants for this and next year's admission cycles?

It won’t. For a few years, girls were disappearing and it didn’t change a thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can he get the death penalty?

VA abolished the death penalty in 2021.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just read the shooter was not in the class, but was invited on the trip by the prof? Wow. I suspect UVA is going to be successfully sued for a very very large sum by everyone involved. What a tragedy.

UVA will be sued, but it will be because they dragged their feet dismissing the shooter after he had those charges, not because a professor invited all the students from her other I classes on this trip.[/quote


You don’t know that happened yet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m o UVA grad and while I believe in the honor system, I would MUCH rather those resources go to addressing behavioral issues like what seems to have been the case with the shooter than worrying about if someone cheated on a test.

This is a UJC issue

I get that it’s not the same system just making a point where the priorities should be

But you are confusing systems in your analysis.

[Anonymous]

Charlottesville has surprisingly high violent crime rates in the bottom 18 percent of the country

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/va/charlottesville/crime.amp

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Charlottesville has surprisingly high violent crime rates in the bottom 18 percent of the country

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/va/charlottesville/crime.amp

It’s sketchy downtown at times. We looked there for a relocation and decided against it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you think this tragic event will affect the number of applicants for this and next year's admission cycles?

It won’t. For a few years, girls were disappearing and it didn’t change a thing.

Gross misplaced exaggeration. We are dealing with a tragedy.