Bafta awards controversy

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Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt


What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
to them it was a random man shouting racial slurs at them
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I do think it’s partially his fault because all of the following: the impact and not intent, the non-apology, and the word even being an option for him.


The non-apology is really the kicker for me. If you are doing a statement anyway, why not at least gesture in the direction of understanding that you used a word with deep historical import, and that you will have caused harm/trauma? There are a million resources he could have drawn from, rather than just promoting his own film yet again?

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Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt


What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!


No. The attendees were warned.

Attendees were not warned.

“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/

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Anonymous wrote:Say there is a massive terror attack and there is a memorial service at Westminster abbey. There will be prayers and a moment of silence for the victims. Should John Davidson be there given he might scream out obscenities during the moment of silence?


Can people really not understand that these people exist? I have encountered this a few times in my life. It's unnerving the first time you hear it because you weren't expecting it but then you roll with it.


It would have been unnerving but something you could roll with if he was yelling random words or making tic noises. He had every right to be there, he had every right to be given the opportunity to enjoy the moment even with his disability. Except to the extent that his disability became not only offensive to a large number of people in attendance but also made it impractical to even continue the show. There is a point where the treatment of one individual can't trump the rights of others and i think he did the right thing leaving the awards show. I imagine it also would have been torture for him to try to stay there.

I didn't realize this happened during the very award. Imagine if he was having multiple outbursts throughout the entire ceremony that progressively get worse because it seems that it stays spiraling. BAFTA wouldn't have even been able to have a show worth broadcasting. I feel horrible for Davidson, but this is a situation that just didn't work out for him.

I don't fault him except I do think he should have done a better job acknowledging (since some don't think an apology is warranted) the impact on MBJ and Lindo, but it's unfortunate all the way around.
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Anonymous wrote:Say there is a massive terror attack and there is a memorial service at Westminster abbey. There will be prayers and a moment of silence for the victims. Should John Davidson be there given he might scream out obscenities during the moment of silence?


Can people really not understand that these people exist? I have encountered this a few times in my life. It's unnerving the first time you hear it because you weren't expecting it but then you roll with it.
of course I know they exist. My question is if they should be there. It’s kind of like why babies are usually not allowed at black tie weddings .


Babies cry, people make noises. Babies are banned from black tie weddings because they are late in the evening. But we don't ban babies from church services because there are periods of silence.


Babies are banned from weddings all the time because they are disruptive, and screaming babies in church are usually removed to the side room by their parents
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Anonymous wrote:Say there is a massive terror attack and there is a memorial service at Westminster abbey. There will be prayers and a moment of silence for the victims. Should John Davidson be there given he might scream out obscenities during the moment of silence?


Can people really not understand that these people exist? I have encountered this a few times in my life. It's unnerving the first time you hear it because you weren't expecting it but then you roll with it.
of course I know they exist. My question is if they should be there. It’s kind of like why babies are usually not allowed at black tie weddings .


Babies cry, people make noises. Babies are banned from black tie weddings because they are late in the evening. But we don't ban babies from church services because there are periods of silence.


Babies are banned from weddings all the time because they are disruptive, and screaming babies in church are usually removed to the side room by their parents


Babies aren't "banned" they just aren't invited. But no, you can't ban babies from public life.
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Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt


What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!


No. The attendees were warned.

Attendees were not warned.

“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/



Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.
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Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt


What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
to them it was a random man shouting racial slurs at them


It literally wasn't because Davidson had been making outbursts all night. It started during the opening remarks.
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Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt


What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!


No. The attendees were warned.

Attendees were not warned.

“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/



Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.


What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?

You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.
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Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt


What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!


No. The attendees were warned.

Attendees were not warned.

“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/



Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.


What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?

You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.


You can't just make up your own facts that nobody knew and there was no warning. This is perfectly clear. The larger issue isn't about John's presence it's the response by BBC and BAFTA that has angered people. People here seem to be making it all about the apology or lack of one.

"Before the ceremony began the floor manager also introduced Davidson to the audience, saying: “I’d like to welcome John Davidson MBE from one of our nominated films ‘I Swear’. John has Tourette’s Syndrome so please be aware you might hear some involuntary noises or movements during the ceremony.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/alan-cumming-john-davidson-i-swear-outbursts-1236669691/
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt


What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!


No. The attendees were warned.

Attendees were not warned.

“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/



Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.


What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?

You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.


You can't just make up your own facts that nobody knew and there was no warning. This is perfectly clear. The larger issue isn't about John's presence it's the response by BBC and BAFTA that has angered people. People here seem to be making it all about the apology or lack of one.

"Before the ceremony began the floor manager also introduced Davidson to the audience, saying: “I’d like to welcome John Davidson MBE from one of our nominated films ‘I Swear’. John has Tourette’s Syndrome so please be aware you might hear some involuntary noises or movements during the ceremony.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/alan-cumming-john-davidson-i-swear-outbursts-1236669691/

“Involuntary noises or movements,” ≠ racial slurs!

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Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt


What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!


No. The attendees were warned.

Attendees were not warned.

“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/



Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.


What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?

You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.


You can't just make up your own facts that nobody knew and there was no warning. This is perfectly clear. The larger issue isn't about John's presence it's the response by BBC and BAFTA that has angered people. People here seem to be making it all about the apology or lack of one.

"Before the ceremony began the floor manager also introduced Davidson to the audience, saying: “I’d like to welcome John Davidson MBE from one of our nominated films ‘I Swear’. John has Tourette’s Syndrome so please be aware you might hear some involuntary noises or movements during the ceremony.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/alan-cumming-john-davidson-i-swear-outbursts-1236669691/

“Involuntary noises or movements,” ≠ racial slurs!



Oh. I see. You think he really meant it from the bottom of his heart.
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Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt


What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!


No. The attendees were warned.

Attendees were not warned.

“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/



Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.


What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?

You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.


You can't just make up your own facts that nobody knew and there was no warning. This is perfectly clear. The larger issue isn't about John's presence it's the response by BBC and BAFTA that has angered people. People here seem to be making it all about the apology or lack of one.

"Before the ceremony began the floor manager also introduced Davidson to the audience, saying: “I’d like to welcome John Davidson MBE from one of our nominated films ‘I Swear’. John has Tourette’s Syndrome so please be aware you might hear some involuntary noises or movements during the ceremony.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/alan-cumming-john-davidson-i-swear-outbursts-1236669691/

“Involuntary noises or movements,” ≠ racial slurs!



Oh. I see. You think he really meant it from the bottom of his heart.

Absolutely!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So you're saying you don't understand the meaning of the word involuntary?

I think what everyone is hung up on is that this word had to have been in his thoughts. Seems stretchy to me.

So nobody can suggest someone like that should not attend golf tennis or chess matches?


I will suggest it. If they can't be counted on to control their tics to the point it can become a disturbance to those involved, then of course they should not attend.


Agree! One person shouldn't ruin it for everyone.
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Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt


What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!


No. The attendees were warned.

Attendees were not warned.

“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/



Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.


What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?

You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.


You can't just make up your own facts that nobody knew and there was no warning. This is perfectly clear. The larger issue isn't about John's presence it's the response by BBC and BAFTA that has angered people. People here seem to be making it all about the apology or lack of one.

"Before the ceremony began the floor manager also introduced Davidson to the audience, saying: “I’d like to welcome John Davidson MBE from one of our nominated films ‘I Swear’. John has Tourette’s Syndrome so please be aware you might hear some involuntary noises or movements during the ceremony.”

https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/alan-cumming-john-davidson-i-swear-outbursts-1236669691/

“Involuntary noises or movements,” ≠ racial slurs!



Oh. I see. You think he really meant it from the bottom of his heart.

Absolutely!


So I guess the awareness was a waste of time if some people can't be reached.
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