Bafta awards controversy

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Anonymous wrote:How do you all know he (or his team) didn't reach out to the two men or others after the fact?

DP here — Because his non-apology was released and has been getting a lot of attention internationally. If he or his team understood the concerns that are being raised and attempted to address them in a positive way, don’t you think they might want to call attention to it?

+1 He issued a public statement! This provided a perfect opportunity to call attention efforts he might have made to make amends, and/or to express some semblance of human empathy or historical understanding.

The fact that he chose to make a statement without an apology, or even acknowledgement of harm, tells me what I need to know about him.

+1000

People who don't care to learn about him or his disability will just have to figure out a way through this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think his outburst shows how certain words have been given so much power that they overwhelm someone's brain and a person with a disorder like tourettes is going to shout out loud what his brain was subconsciously telling him "when there are black people around, I must never ever utter this word", and then the word comes out.

People need to get a grip who think this is his fault.

Literally no one is arguing that it’s his fault. People are arguing that the situation was avoidable

[Anonymous]

This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt

What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

[Anonymous]

Say there is a massive terror attack and there is a memorial service at Westminster abbey. There will be prayers and a moment of silence for the victims. Should John Davidson be there given he might scream out obscenities during the moment of silence?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Say there is a massive terror attack and there is a memorial service at Westminster abbey. There will be prayers and a moment of silence for the victims. Should John Davidson be there given he might scream out obscenities during the moment of silence?

Can people really not understand that these people exist? I have encountered this a few times in my life. It's unnerving the first time you hear it because you weren't expecting it but then you roll with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Say there is a massive terror attack and there is a memorial service at Westminster abbey. There will be prayers and a moment of silence for the victims. Should John Davidson be there given he might scream out obscenities during the moment of silence?

Can people really not understand that these people exist? I have encountered this a few times in my life. It's unnerving the first time you hear it because you weren't expecting it but then you roll with it.

of course I know they exist. My question is if they should be there. It’s kind of like why babies are usually not allowed at black tie weddings .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Say there is a massive terror attack and there is a memorial service at Westminster abbey. There will be prayers and a moment of silence for the victims. Should John Davidson be there given he might scream out obscenities during the moment of silence?

Can people really not understand that these people exist? I have encountered this a few times in my life. It's unnerving the first time you hear it because you weren't expecting it but then you roll with it.

of course I know they exist. My question is if they should be there. It’s kind of like why babies are usually not allowed at black tie weddings .

Babies cry, people make noises. Babies are banned from black tie weddings because they are late in the evening. But we don't ban babies from church services because there are periods of silence.

[Anonymous]

I do think it’s partially his fault because all of the following: the impact and not intent, the non-apology, and the word even being an option for him.

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I know depressed suicidal people exist but I also wouldn’t want them to be a counselor for depressed and suicidal kids. It doesn’t mean I even remotely dislike them but it’s a bad idea

[Anonymous]

I know blind people exist. My grandfather was blind. I also don’t want them driving or flying airplanes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do think it’s partially his fault because all of the following: the impact and not intent, the non-apology, and the word even being an option for him.

What do you mean the word being an option? It's in everyone's vocabulary because it is a word and it is a word used often in media, music, etc. If we don't want to hear it we should ban it everywhere all the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt

What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt

What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!

No. The attendees were warned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt

What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.

The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!

No. The attendees were warned.

^ to add the presenters were warned in advance too. Not that it makes it ok, but it was discussed. This guy has quite a knack for blurting out the most inappropriate things. I know it's his disability but yikes.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/tourettes-bafta-film-awards-bbc-john-davidson-sinners-1236512321/

Davidson had been warmly welcomed by a floor manager before the awards show began, and attendees were informed that “John has Tourette’s Syndrome, so please be aware you might hear some involuntary noises or movements during the ceremony,” as the housekeeping rules were laid out. A source informed THR that this was the moment presenters were warned about Davidson’s tics, minutes prior to the ceremony kicking off. He left the room around 25 minutes into the show (of his own accord, THR understands), shortly after his outburst during Jordan and Lindo’s presentation. Other outbursts came before this, including, “Bullshit!” when people were asked not to curse, and, “Shut the f*ck up,” when BAFTA chair Sara Putt made her introductory remarks.