Dockworker’s strike

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love the union leaders Bentley. Keep paying those 10% of paycheck dues folks! $39/hr to be an 18 yo dockworker. Nice!

Again $39 is the top wage. No one under 40 is making that. Several cites to this above. Speaking of which, where are the cites to the average longshoremen making $300k a year? Someone keeps insisting this is so. The math just isn’t there. Even at the top rate of $39 a hour with a ton of overtime they aren’t going much above 6 figures. Where did this myth begin?

The answer to how this works is found in the NY Shipping Association's 2023 Annual Report.

2/3 of the longshoreman, both in number of workers and in number of hours worked, get paid the highest rate. They also somehow work almost twice as much overtime as regular time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
$39/hour for a max salary is chicken scratch for what those people have to endure. That’s around $75,000-$80,000 a year for back breaking work where you always the risk of having your skull, legs, or back caved in by a shipping container. Shame on you for thinking they’re being greedy in their demands.

This thread really brings to light how phony these supposed “Democrats” are on this board. These “Democrats” on here are mostly neoconservative Republicans who have libertarian social and cultural views. Not Democrats in my book at all.

Thanks for making the case for automation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Laughable these workers are demanding a 50% raise and 100% guaranteed job security when no other job anywhere ever has that....when the company can just fire them all and replace with automation and give a raise to those laborers that are actually required to run the machines. BYE.

They turned down a 50 percent raise. They are demanding a 77 percent raise and no automation ever. And they will both destroy the economy and ensure a Trump victory unless their demands are met.

Biden should use his authority to fire them all and fast-track a modern automated port system like those used in Europe and Asia. The fact that a cabal of morons can stop nearly all trade in the US is a systemic failure that needs to be corrected. And Democrats need to stop pandering to unions. They're all Trumpers anyway.

F them.

Automate the ports completely and run them from a central station like other ports around the world.

Time to move into the 21st Century - this is a global economy.

[Anonymous]

Agree

Now is the time

This is the final catalyst

[Anonymous]

But sleepy joe is at the Start button

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love the union leaders Bentley. Keep paying those 10% of paycheck dues folks! $39/hr to be an 18 yo dockworker. Nice!

Again $39 is the top wage. No one under 40 is making that. Several cites to this above. Speaking of which, where are the cites to the average longshoremen making $300k a year? Someone keeps insisting this is so. The math just isn’t there. Even at the top rate of $39 a hour with a ton of overtime they aren’t going much above 6 figures. Where did this myth begin?

"DEEP SEA LONGSHORE WORKERS – EARNINGS
During FY 2019-2020, deep-sea longshore workers (including checkers and special craft) were
paid $621,858,750.79, including regular overtime wages, vacation and holiday benefits. The chart
below reflects the earnings ranges of those longshore workers who perform work involving the
discharge or loading of general cargo vessels, and who comprise the “deep-sea register.” These
earnings, which are reported by the New York Shipping Association, Inc., do not include
additional container royalty payments.

EARNINGS RANGE # OF WORKERS
Over $450,000 18
$400,000 to $450,000 41
$350,000 to $400,000 82
$300,000 to $350,000 177
$250,000 to $300,000 347
$200,000 to $250,000 570
$150,000 to $200,000 851
$100,000 to $150,000 707
$75,000 to $100,000 267
$50,000 to $75,000 298
$25,000 to $50,000 184
Below $25,000 184"

Source: The Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor annual report 2019-2020. Page 19

Awesome

Not a lot of workers

How do I get in to this line of work? What do I need to study or what physical things do I need to pass?

who can I do informational with or talk to about training or hiring cycles?

Do I need to bribe some long term shipyard owners or union workers? How much money?

[Anonymous]

They seem low on women.

I can climb up a ladder and operate a joystick. Are their DEI goals in place or close to being met yet?

How are the health benefits and paid maternity leaves? How many months of vacation a year?

[Anonymous]

Annual COLA raises plus step function raises every few years for promotions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Already shortages of TP and paper towels reported.

Lina Khan and Rohit Chopra are on it!

Order from Canada coming in hot a la train.

[Anonymous]

No COLA but there are 17 paid annual holidays plus vacation/sick leave, health care, generous retirement contributions and annual profit sharing.

No education or licensing requirements but you can only get an interview if the ILA has pre-approved you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love the union leaders Bentley. Keep paying those 10% of paycheck dues folks! $39/hr to be an 18 yo dockworker. Nice!

Again $39 is the top wage. No one under 40 is making that. Several cites to this above. Speaking of which, where are the cites to the average longshoremen making $300k a year? Someone keeps insisting this is so. The math just isn’t there. Even at the top rate of $39 a hour with a ton of overtime they aren’t going much above 6 figures. Where did this myth begin?

"DEEP SEA LONGSHORE WORKERS – EARNINGS
During FY 2019-2020, deep-sea longshore workers (including checkers and special craft) were
paid $621,858,750.79, including regular overtime wages, vacation and holiday benefits. The chart
below reflects the earnings ranges of those longshore workers who perform work involving the
discharge or loading of general cargo vessels, and who comprise the “deep-sea register.” These
earnings, which are reported by the New York Shipping Association, Inc., do not include
additional container royalty payments.

EARNINGS RANGE # OF WORKERS
Over $450,000 18
$400,000 to $450,000 41
$350,000 to $400,000 82
$300,000 to $350,000 177
$250,000 to $300,000 347
$200,000 to $250,000 570
$150,000 to $200,000 851
$100,000 to $150,000 707
$75,000 to $100,000 267
$50,000 to $75,000 298
$25,000 to $50,000 184
Below $25,000 184"

Source: The Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor annual report 2019-2020. Page 19

Any idea what number of years of service gets you to what level of pay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love the union leaders Bentley. Keep paying those 10% of paycheck dues folks! $39/hr to be an 18 yo dockworker. Nice!

Again $39 is the top wage. No one under 40 is making that. Several cites to this above. Speaking of which, where are the cites to the average longshoremen making $300k a year? Someone keeps insisting this is so. The math just isn’t there. Even at the top rate of $39 a hour with a ton of overtime they aren’t going much above 6 figures. Where did this myth begin?

"DEEP SEA LONGSHORE WORKERS – EARNINGS
During FY 2019-2020, deep-sea longshore workers (including checkers and special craft) were
paid $621,858,750.79, including regular overtime wages, vacation and holiday benefits. The chart
below reflects the earnings ranges of those longshore workers who perform work involving the
discharge or loading of general cargo vessels, and who comprise the “deep-sea register.” These
earnings, which are reported by the New York Shipping Association, Inc., do not include
additional container royalty payments.

EARNINGS RANGE # OF WORKERS
Over $450,000 18
$400,000 to $450,000 41
$350,000 to $400,000 82
$300,000 to $350,000 177
$250,000 to $300,000 347
$200,000 to $250,000 570
$150,000 to $200,000 851
$100,000 to $150,000 707
$75,000 to $100,000 267
$50,000 to $75,000 298
$25,000 to $50,000 184
Below $25,000 184"

Source: The Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor annual report 2019-2020. Page 19

Any idea what number of years of service gets you to what level of pay?

Only 6 years of experience needed for the highest rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They seem low on women.

I can climb up a ladder and operate a joystick. Are their DEI goals in place or close to being met yet?

How are the health benefits and paid maternity leaves? How many months of vacation a year?

Do they slap women like the first lady, Doug Emhoff?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love the union leaders Bentley. Keep paying those 10% of paycheck dues folks! $39/hr to be an 18 yo dockworker. Nice!

Again $39 is the top wage. No one under 40 is making that. Several cites to this above. Speaking of which, where are the cites to the average longshoremen making $300k a year? Someone keeps insisting this is so. The math just isn’t there. Even at the top rate of $39 a hour with a ton of overtime they aren’t going much above 6 figures. Where did this myth begin?

"DEEP SEA LONGSHORE WORKERS – EARNINGS
During FY 2019-2020, deep-sea longshore workers (including checkers and special craft) were
paid $621,858,750.79, including regular overtime wages, vacation and holiday benefits. The chart
below reflects the earnings ranges of those longshore workers who perform work involving the
discharge or loading of general cargo vessels, and who comprise the “deep-sea register.” These
earnings, which are reported by the New York Shipping Association, Inc., do not include
additional container royalty payments.

EARNINGS RANGE # OF WORKERS
Over $450,000 18
$400,000 to $450,000 41
$350,000 to $400,000 82
$300,000 to $350,000 177
$250,000 to $300,000 347
$200,000 to $250,000 570
$150,000 to $200,000 851
$100,000 to $150,000 707
$75,000 to $100,000 267
$50,000 to $75,000 298
$25,000 to $50,000 184
Below $25,000 184"

Source: The Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor annual report 2019-2020. Page 19

Awesome

Not a lot of workers

How do I get in to this line of work? What do I need to study or what physical things do I need to pass?

who can I do informational with or talk to about training or hiring cycles?

Do I need to bribe some long term shipyard owners or union workers? How much money?

Who is stopping you from applying? Sounds like a great job!

[Anonymous]

Longshoremen jobs are impossible to get unless you have connections.