NC medical student brags on Twitter about deliberately harming patient who mocked her pronoun pin

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

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Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

1) It’s very easy to miss. Even experienced techs can miss.

2) Third party gave character report.

As a future health care professional, she shouldn’t have been advertising and crowing about her two failed attempts, in a gleeful way, whether or not intentional. She should have remained quiet and vowed to do better again, to prevent future patients from the discomfort of multiple attempts. The lack of remorse and apparent lack of motivation to improve, are reasons to reconsider her suitability for a profession that involves caring for patients.

She only failed once.

It was dumb to post but “lack of motivation to improve” is total fiction.

I actually agree with the PP. She’s a liability for a hospital. She’s made it clear she believes patients with opposing views to hers do not deserve the same standard of care. She’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Why would any hospital hire her?

She didn’t alter the level of care.

That’s not what the PP said. It’s that she doesn’t believe people with opposing views deserve the same level of care. Whether intentional or not, she was happy and gloating to the public that this patient had to have two attempts to draw blood. She should be expelled.

That's taking things to 11 pretty quickly. It's not like she tweeted that she amputated the wrong foot during surgery to get back at someone for being snitty about pronouns. You can discipline and correct without destroying a person's life and career. She should delete the tweet, apologize, explain, take responsibility, and hopefully move on with the understanding that a job that requires a lot of trust and discretion, probably means not tweeting every thought in your head.

She destroyed her own career.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

+1

Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

1) It’s very easy to miss. Even experienced techs can miss.

2) Third party gave character report.

As a future health care professional, she shouldn’t have been advertising and crowing about her two failed attempts, in a gleeful way, whether or not intentional. She should have remained quiet and vowed to do better again, to prevent future patients from the discomfort of multiple attempts. The lack of remorse and apparent lack of motivation to improve, are reasons to reconsider her suitability for a profession that involves caring for patients.

She only failed once.

It was dumb to post but “lack of motivation to improve” is total fiction.

I actually agree with the PP. She’s a liability for a hospital. She’s made it clear she believes patients with opposing views to hers do not deserve the same standard of care. She’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Why would any hospital hire her?

She didn’t alter the level of care.

That’s not what the PP said. It’s that she doesn’t believe people with opposing views deserve the same level of care. Whether intentional or not, she was happy and gloating to the public that this patient had to have two attempts to draw blood. She should be expelled.

Fiction.

Finding satisfaction in “karma” doesn’t mean anything about who she thinks is “deserving a level of care”.

Haters gonna hate.

She implied the bolded pretty strongly. You don’t have to read too hard into her tweet to see she thought he deserved to have her “fail” the first time. Unless you also believe he deserved it, in which case you too should not be involved in health care.

+100 It's odd how some posters are almost defending her and calling people haters or bigots for finding her behavior disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:She needs to be fired and blacklisted. This is psychopathic behavior.

It is, but I’m convinced about half of physicians are psychopaths anyway, so…

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

+1

Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

1) It’s very easy to miss. Even experienced techs can miss.

2) Third party gave character report.

As a future health care professional, she shouldn’t have been advertising and crowing about her two failed attempts, in a gleeful way, whether or not intentional. She should have remained quiet and vowed to do better again, to prevent future patients from the discomfort of multiple attempts. The lack of remorse and apparent lack of motivation to improve, are reasons to reconsider her suitability for a profession that involves caring for patients.

She only failed once.

It was dumb to post but “lack of motivation to improve” is total fiction.

I actually agree with the PP. She’s a liability for a hospital. She’s made it clear she believes patients with opposing views to hers do not deserve the same standard of care. She’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Why would any hospital hire her?

She didn’t alter the level of care.

That’s not what the PP said. It’s that she doesn’t believe people with opposing views deserve the same level of care. Whether intentional or not, she was happy and gloating to the public that this patient had to have two attempts to draw blood. She should be expelled.

Fiction.

Finding satisfaction in “karma” doesn’t mean anything about who she thinks is “deserving a level of care”.

Haters gonna hate.

She implied the bolded pretty strongly. You don’t have to read too hard into her tweet to see she thought he deserved to have her “fail” the first time. Unless you also believe he deserved it, in which case you too should not be involved in health care.

+100 It's odd how some posters are almost defending her and calling people haters or bigots for finding her behavior disgusting.

The people calling others hateful aren’t “almost” defending her. They are defending her.

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Anonymous wrote:Typical misandrist.

You're making an assumption.

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Anonymous wrote:She needs to be fired and blacklisted. This is psychopathic behavior.

It is, but I’m convinced about half of physicians are psychopaths anyway, so…

And the other half have high functioning autism--I think this is especially true of surgeons.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

But the patient might believe she did and honestly there's enough evidence in her tweet that it's plausible.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like listing your pronouns under your name, in your email for instance, is simply superfluous for the 99% of people who have gendered names. If your name is Amanda, you are most likely she/her. If you are the very rare man named Amanda, then by all means include "he/him" after your name. Most trans people change their name to a gendered name of the sex they identify with. I dont' understand the need to list pronouns also.

Of course, pronouns might be helpful when corresponding with Sams, Teagans, and Corys.

-1. I corresponds by email at work most of the times. I have not added my preferred pronouns to my signature yet although many colleagues have done it recently. You have a very limited experience if you think you only corresponds with Maries and Amandas. I corresponds with clients, colleagues ( on same side or opposite side), professionals in a gov agency. I cannot count the times I googled somebody’s name to find a photo or something to understand if I had to say Ms or Mr. same names can be either in English but tons of names are not typical Anglo Saxon names. With the pronoun at the end of an email makes a lot easier to respond appropriately. This is even more useful when corresponding with foreigners . A female colleague kept receiving email addresses to Mr because foreign colleagues through her last name (which is a male first name) was her name. It is just easy when you correspond with people you don’t know

LoL!! As an immigrant, I seriously laugh my head off at your first world problems. Let me assure you, it doesn't really matter if someone addresses you by the incorrect pronoun. It maybe a little annoying, but if THIS is what sets you off to the point of hurting a patient/debating for 30 pages, then you are lead an EXTREMELY privileged and entitled life. IMO, its narcissistic and performative.

She didn’t intentionally hurt the patient.

Would you want to see - or employ - a doctor who joked about harming a patient either intentionally or unintentionally? I can tell you, as a very liberal middle aged person, I would not want to SEE that doctor.

I can tell you I would not hire her. Way too much of a liability.

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Anonymous wrote:“Because there is nothing normal about having to state one's "preferred pronouns."”

“Because it's not. If I have to explain that you, well, I'm sorry for you.”

“People who feel the need to announce their pronouns, or worse, expect/ ask/ demand that others do so, are either a) woke virtue signalers; b) ostriches with their heads in the sand and simply going along to get along because they don't want to bother speaking up about something that they know is silly at best and damaging at worst, but seems to be the current fad; or c) mentally disturbed.

You pick which one best fits you.”

“You are hateful..and crazy, like those homeless racists who push people onto train tracks.”

You’re the hater and the one who’s been lashing out.

Really? It’s easy to see the hateful words.

You’ve really compiled a list of different people’s posts to complain? I’ll add one more “hateful” thing-get a life! Also, you’re a hypocrite.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

+1

Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

1) It’s very easy to miss. Even experienced techs can miss.

2) Third party gave character report.

As a future health care professional, she shouldn’t have been advertising and crowing about her two failed attempts, in a gleeful way, whether or not intentional. She should have remained quiet and vowed to do better again, to prevent future patients from the discomfort of multiple attempts. The lack of remorse and apparent lack of motivation to improve, are reasons to reconsider her suitability for a profession that involves caring for patients.

She only failed once.

It was dumb to post but “lack of motivation to improve” is total fiction.

I actually agree with the PP. She’s a liability for a hospital. She’s made it clear she believes patients with opposing views to hers do not deserve the same standard of care. She’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Why would any hospital hire her?

She didn’t alter the level of care.

That’s not what the PP said. It’s that she doesn’t believe people with opposing views deserve the same level of care. Whether intentional or not, she was happy and gloating to the public that this patient had to have two attempts to draw blood. She should be expelled.

Fiction.

Finding satisfaction in “karma” doesn’t mean anything about who she thinks is “deserving a level of care”.

Haters gonna hate.

She implied the bolded pretty strongly. You don’t have to read too hard into her tweet to see she thought he deserved to have her “fail” the first time. Unless you also believe he deserved it, in which case you too should not be involved in health care.

+100 It's odd how some posters are almost defending her and calling people haters or bigots for finding her behavior disgusting.

The people calling others hateful aren’t “almost” defending her. They are defending her.

Just calling out the a-holes who are quick to judge without facts. Or flat out making up crap.

Fact: tweeting about the experience was poor judgment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Because there is nothing normal about having to state one's "preferred pronouns."”

“Because it's not. If I have to explain that you, well, I'm sorry for you.”

“People who feel the need to announce their pronouns, or worse, expect/ ask/ demand that others do so, are either a) woke virtue signalers; b) ostriches with their heads in the sand and simply going along to get along because they don't want to bother speaking up about something that they know is silly at best and damaging at worst, but seems to be the current fad; or c) mentally disturbed.

You pick which one best fits you.”

“You are hateful..and crazy, like those homeless racists who push people onto train tracks.”

You’re the hater and the one who’s been lashing out.

Really? It’s easy to see the hateful words.

You’ve really compiled a list of different people’s posts to complain? I’ll add one more “hateful” thing-get a life! Also, you’re a hypocrite.

Those were all from the same thread if you opened up the quoted posts. I just removed the quotes.

Truth hurts.

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Anonymous wrote:I have read only the first page so my comment may not make sense but if this is real, I am just astonished that an adult can be so incredibly stupid to post something like that (“ I am a doctor/ nurse and I purposely hurt a patient because he pi$$ed me off”) under her name online for the world to see. These young people who grew up attached to their phone and broadcasting any details of their lives and their private conversations don’t really understand that you can’t do that with work ever. I bet she did not hurt anybody, just bragged to sound cool and woke but I would let her go just in view of the sheer stupidity

She didn’t do it intentionally.

That’s what she claims now, faced with expulsion.

The tweet is the tweet. She did not say it was intentional.

+1

Bigots want to read into it.

She didn’t say it was intentional. She didn’t say it was unintentional. Nobody say for sure either way, but the trans activists insist it was unintentional and the conservatives/Fox crowd says it was intentional. Both are crazy, both have no way of knowing.

1) It’s very easy to miss. Even experienced techs can miss.

2) Third party gave character report.

As a future health care professional, she shouldn’t have been advertising and crowing about her two failed attempts, in a gleeful way, whether or not intentional. She should have remained quiet and vowed to do better again, to prevent future patients from the discomfort of multiple attempts. The lack of remorse and apparent lack of motivation to improve, are reasons to reconsider her suitability for a profession that involves caring for patients.

She only failed once.

It was dumb to post but “lack of motivation to improve” is total fiction.

I actually agree with the PP. She’s a liability for a hospital. She’s made it clear she believes patients with opposing views to hers do not deserve the same standard of care. She’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Why would any hospital hire her?

She didn’t alter the level of care.

That’s not what the PP said. It’s that she doesn’t believe people with opposing views deserve the same level of care. Whether intentional or not, she was happy and gloating to the public that this patient had to have two attempts to draw blood. She should be expelled.

Agree. It will be interesting to see what happens. I do think there’s a chance she will escape expulsion. Because trans rights are such a hot topic currently, I allowing her to stay with just a hand slap will increase the schools support from progressives and be good for diversity outreach. However, if they have major financial supporters who are more traditional, she is in big trouble. No medical school wants this kind of publicity, and rightfully so.

Also, someone said her parents are possibly doctors. If they are WF alumni and big donors, they may be able to pull strings. Either way, her whole career is starting with a rotten stench.

Feel bad for the patient—he was probably nervous about the blood draw and cracked a stupid joke.

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From the student handbook:

Values
 Excellence—Demonstrate the highest standards of patient-centered care, education, research, and operational effectiveness.
 Compassion—Responsive to the physical, emotional, spiritual, and intellectual needs of all.
 Service—Cultivate selfless contribution for the greater good.
 Integrity—Demonstrate fairness, honesty, sincerity, and accountability.
 Diversity—Demonstrate respect for and inclusion of all backgrounds, identities, experiences, and perspectives.
 Collegiality—Foster mutual respect, facilitate professional growth and mentorship, and reward teamwork and
collaboration.
 Innovation—Promote creativity to enhance discovery and the application of knowledge.
 Safety—embrace a culture of reliability through better process design and accountability.

https://school.wakehealth.edu/-/media/WakeForest/School/Files/Education-and-Training/Student-Affairs/Wake-Forest-School-of-Medicine-Student-Handbook.pdf

[Anonymous]

Thought republicans didn't believe in canceling people???

[Anonymous]

This does not need to be viewed in a political lens.